A.I. demands a trade, are the W's a realistic destination?

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  1. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Man... I just shope we don't become the Knicks...

    Baron, Iverson would be the West version of Marbury, Francis...
     
  2. upsidedownside7

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    <div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
    We could even try to be a third team and trade something like Pietrus, Zarko, and McLeod (6 mil in expiring contracts plus a solid player in Pietrus) for one valuable piece back. There's alot of possibilities for Mullin so I hope he explores them, he doesnt have to make an aggressive bid for Iverson but just get in the mix and test the waters.</div>

    Good point.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">HiRez Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why would the Sixers want to give up a perennial All-Star and a future HOF for another guard who has a worse attitude, is a poor freethrower, and is very likely to miss a lot of games due to injury? If the deal was Baron and Pietrus for Iverson I guess I'd have to at least listen, but I don't see how it really helps Philadelphia. And from the Warrior's perspective, Iverson has the same length contract as Baron and is something like $4 million a year more expensive, that's not helpful to their present situation. Any time a superstar player is available, it's tempting to speculate, like when that hot girl unexpectedly breaks up with her boyfriend, but I think this one is best left alone by the Warriors.</div>

    I think Mullin has to exercise some patience. Billy King isn't the smartest GM and I'd put him as third worst behind Isiah and McHale. Mullin could go fourth or fifth.

    When Vince Carter and Baron hit the market, both Toronto and New Orleans were in a position of being forced to make the deal. They did not get the players they wanted in return. Only Indiana was able to make a decent deal with Ron Artest, but they had to wait several months and deal with the hoopla. It still remains to be seen what they get from trading Peja.

    In the end, Baron for AI straight may not sound like a bad deal for the Sixers.
     
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    The 76ers are looking for youth, picks, and probably not terrible contracts.

    J-Rich + Ike + P'OB + Keith McLeod for Iverson + Steven Hunter

    J-Rich is only 25, and Ike and POB (not a Nellie type of player?) are young obviously, while Keith McLeod fills some of the hole that is left by Iverson @ pg.

    Hunter (a Nellie-type center?) fills any minutes left over from Ike, and also backs up Biedrins in this fast paced offense.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">jason voorhees Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">When Vince Carter and Baron hit the market, both Toronto and New Orleans were in a position of being forced to make the deal. They did not get the players they wanted in return. Only Indiana was able to make a decent deal with Ron Artest, but they had to wait several months and deal with the hoopla. It still remains to be seen what they get from trading Peja.</div>
    Well Vince Carter was putting up terrible, absolutely terrible numbers with Toronto. Wasn't attacking the basket and putting up career lows in every category. People thought Vince didn't have the enthusiasm or anything for the game.

    As well he just got an injury.

    Toronto was in a terrible position once Vince demanded a trade.

    AI is putting up incredible numbers still, and is not injured, and no one questions his heart.

    Baron, well I think Baron was injured, and he had been injured a lot for several seasons, and back injuries worry people. So he was undervalued as well.

    I think it will be very interesting to see what AI goes for, as well as how he meshes with his new team.
     
  6. REREM

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    <div class="quote_poster">AlleyOop Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Not sure how adding Zarko is a bump-up [​IMG]

    Well, AI is a great player but he's not a true point guard -- he's a ball hog who will take 25 shots a night and we will see Monta, JRich and others have a dip in production. Baron is a ball-hog too, but he still has a point-guard mentality, when he's focused.

    The difference between AI and Baron is consistency and health. AI has been an ironman. Baron has not.

    However, ultimately, Allen Iverson is demanding a trade, abandoning his teammates and "conceeding defeat" in Philly. I'd never want a guy like that as my franchise leader. For this reason alone, I wouldn't want him in GS.</div>

    Iverson is 4 yrs older than Baron and at least $4 million more$. He has more games where he had 30+ FGA than games under 20 FGA---and that does not count unmade shots where he went to the line...The whole style of the team would get changed-and Iverson can get bitchy if that style ain't to his liking.

    It is unlikely a Baron-Iverson deal,as we'd need to add some outgoing $. Either Iverson or Baron would expire in about 2 1/2 yrs... about when I think we can be legit contenders-not just playoff hopefuls. I am not keen on putting all my eggs in one basket-in terms of trading a lot for AI,or dedicating so much of the budget to him-or having the offense be AI and them other guys. He hasn't exactly meant a lot of wins for the Sixers this year. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The 76ers are looking for youth, picks, and probably not terrible contracts.

    J-Rich + Ike + P'OB + Keith McLeod for Iverson + Steven Hunter

    J-Rich is only 25, and Ike and POB (not a Nellie type of player?) are young obviously, while Keith McLeod fills some of the hole that is left by Iverson @ pg.

    Hunter (a Nellie-type center?) fills any minutes left over from Ike, and also backs up Biedrins in this fast paced offense.</div>

    Hunter is a mediocre C who won't become more. POB will be better within a year. Iverson at best is the next 2 seasons. J Rich can be a stud here for 7-8 years-Ike and POB even longer. Suppose after a year we find that Iverson is major friction,not meshing with Baron or Nellie? He's even older-yet still mega $$$ and pretty hard to move out. I fear the "Big" trades that-in the best Warrior tradition--blow up in our faces.[​IMG]
     

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