It's going to be tough for the 76ers to trade AI straight up to any team in the league and get back the pieces they want. The 76ers will focus on rebuilding once Iverson is traded, and to do so they need draft picks and expiring contracts. The Lakers don't need any part of Iverson, but we should try to manuever ourselves in a position to be the 3rd team in the deal. The Lakers have the Chris Mihm injury exception, McKie's expiring K, Shammond expiring K, and Smush expiring K, and of course Mihm's expiring K. Combined the Lakers have roughly $8M to $10M in expiring contracts they can send out, which would interest the 76ers. The Lakers could use an upgrade at PG, and a lock down perimeter defender to take pressure off Kobe. Watching Mo Evans try to defend JJ last night was an eye opener of how much this team misses Kobe defensively.
I'm predicting the Celtics end up with Iverson. I posted it here LINK Boston sends Ratliff + Telfair + Green and receive Iverson. This creates two additional roster moves Philly would have to make in order to accomadate two added players. This is where the Lakers can make a move to acquire one or two servicable players from Philly for nothing. The two players I would target are Kevin Ollie and Kyle Korver. If the 76ers acquire Telfair and Green, they won't have any need for either of those two players. As it stands the 76ers already have a logjam at the SG/SF position with Iggy, Carney, and Green. With those three, Korver is the odd man out. Adding another shooter isn't a bad idea for this Laker team to consider. Korver's contract isn't too bad either at just over $4M a season. Kevin Ollie would be the hard nosed defensive PG this team needs to close out games. Mihm + McKie (76ers waive both) + 2nd Rounder for Korver + Ollie works under the cap. This saves the 76ers an additional $7M next season, and another $15M spread out for the next 3 years of Korver's current deal.
The Sixers want to completely rebuild and I think being a 3rd team in a deal could end up being very beneficial to us. Like you said, they have both Korver and Ollie that could help us. What about Igoudala? Him and Kobe are great friends if I recall correctly and he doesn't seem selfish. Would he be able to come off of the bench here?
I wouldn't mind stealing Iggy from under the noses of the 76ers. It would create a similar log jam we had at the SF spot again when we had George wont it?
I imagine Igoudala as part of the rebuilding process so I don't think the 76ers would let him go, but it would be awesome to have him in LA. But why would we want A.I. in the first place? Just a trade piece?
Iono Iggy is gonna be basically their center piece if iverson gets traded it would be nice to see him as a laker i think we should trade vladdy, mckie, and mihm to the sixers for iggy. If you get iggy the lakers roster would be crowded with 3s Lamar, kobe, luke, vlady, and iggy? so yea
<div class="quote_poster">Brok3n Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I imagine Igoudala as part of the rebuilding process so I don't think the 76ers would let him go, but it would be awesome to have him in LA. But why would we want A.I. in the first place? Just a trade piece?</div> I doubt the 76ers part with Iggy either, unless they can unload Webber with him, and I want nothing to do with CWebb. Iggy is likely going to be one of the players Philly builds around, although I'd love to acquire him if he's available. The most recent article I read has Iverson going to Boston or Dallas.
they wouldnt trade him to team within division... all the team in that horrible division r still in hunt for playoffs, they wouldnt trade him to boston and i think he wants to go to a legit contender<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm predicting the Celtics end up with Iverson. I posted it here LINK Boston sends Ratliff + Telfair + Green and receive Iverson. This creates two additional roster moves Philly would have to make in order to accomadate two added players. This is where the Lakers can make a move to acquire one or two servicable players from Philly for nothing. The two players I would target are Kevin Ollie and Kyle Korver. If the 76ers acquire Telfair and Green, they won't have any need for either of those two players. As it stands the 76ers already have a logjam at the SG/SF position with Iggy, Carney, and Green. With those three, Korver is the odd man out. Adding another shooter isn't a bad idea for this Laker team to consider. Korver's contract isn't too bad either at just over $4M a season. Kevin Ollie would be the hard nosed defensive PG this team needs to close out games. Mihm + McKie (76ers waive both) + 2nd Rounder for Korver + Ollie works under the cap. This saves the 76ers an additional $7M next season, and another $15M spread out for the next 3 years of Korver's current deal.</div>
<div class="quote_poster">hugelakersfan8 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">all the team in that horrible division r still in hunt for playoffs, they wouldnt trade him to boston and i think he wants to go to a legit contender</div> It's rare for teams to trade within their division, but if Boston is offering the best deal, the 76ers are going to take it. AI said he wants to play there. Boston wants him there. It's just a matter of working out the right deal. These two were close to getting a deal done this past summer.
I heard that KG and pierce have both trequested that their organizations both try to set up a trade so that they could play with iverson... im willing to bet my money that if minny doesnt acquire AI, KG will be pissed and also demand a trade himself hahahaha
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The most recent article I read has Iverson going to Boston or Dallas.</div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Allen Iverson is not in the Mavericks' future, Mark Cuban has announced to reporters. "We can knock that rumor down right now," owner Mark Cuban said Saturday night.</div> - RealGM Scratch Dallas off the list. I think he will go to Minnesota when all is said and done.
AI to Lakers a no go? why not though? The last time L.A. had two superstars playing together they won three championships. Allen Iverson would come in and give the Lakers an unstoppable offense... yes we would suffer on defense but if they scored enough points they wouldnt have to worry about it. What about rebounds you say? If the shot goes in there are none Kobe and AI have been the scoring leaders 1 and 2 interchangeable for the past several years they wouldnt miss too many shots with both players on the floor. I think the Sixers would take a young Lamar Odom in his prime over an aging Iverson besides they were close to shipping AI for Odom back when the Clippers had him but allegedly the Clippers backed out at the last minute. I believe it can work anyone else with me on this one?
<div class="quote_poster">bruin007 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">AI to Lakers a no go? why not though? The last time L.A. had two superstars playing together they won three championships. Allen Iverson would come in and give the Lakers an unstoppable offense... yes we would suffer on defense but if they scored enough points they wouldnt have to worry about it. What about rebounds you say? If the shot goes in there are none Kobe and AI have been the scoring leaders 1 and 2 interchangeable for the past several years they wouldnt miss too many shots with both players on the floor. I think the Sixers would take a young Lamar Odom in his prime over an aging Iverson besides they were close to shipping AI for Odom back when the Clippers had him but allegedly the Clippers backed out at the last minute. I believe it can work anyone else with me on this one?</div> Of course Philly would accept this deal, and IMO the Lakers would get shafted sending Odom for AI. I cannot grasp the concept of AI playing within the constraints of the Triangle offense. I don't think he has a great basketball IQ to pick up the offense right away, and he does not have the discipline to work within the system. Kobe and AI in the same backcourt could arguably be the best backcourt ever, but we won't win any titles with a guard dominated offense. We also don't have the shotblocking presence to protect against AI defensively.
If you go to the article about Iverson being dealt quickly on ESPN they have an inset from the Associated Press quoting Phil Jackson saying he wouldn't mind running Kobe and AI. I hope we can still keep Odom but in an AI deal Odom would probably have to leave unless someone likes one of our players a little too much. lol. I'm just putting that the quote is out there for anyone who wants to discuss about it. I'm not favoring that we should or shouldnt.
On SportsCenter they were just talking about possible destinations for Iverson and they threw the Lakers in there. They named all the teams we have been hearing about for the last couple of days (Minnesota, Boston, New York, etc.) and then finished the report by saying, "Even the Knicks could make a deal for Iverson and Phil Jackson says, don't rule out the Lakers." I have yet to hear any sort of news regarding an Iverson to Los Angeles scenario. Is it just a fantasy or is there an actual chance it may go down?
<div class="quote_poster">Swish15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">On SportsCenter they were just talking about possible destinations for Iverson and they threw the Lakers in there. They named all the teams we have been hearing about for the last couple of days (Minnesota, Boston, New York, etc.) and then finished the report by saying, "Even the Knicks could make a deal for Iverson and Phil Jackson says, don't rule out the Lakers." I have yet to hear any sort of news regarding an Iverson to Los Angeles scenario. Is it just a fantasy or is there an actual chance it may go down?</div> I doubt it, the Lakers could use an upgrade at PG, but this team doesn't need another superstar. There's no reason to pursue AI he's a terrible fit for us. PJax is great at manipulating the media, so maybe he said that to increase Iverson's value. There's a chance AI heads to the West, so forcing a team to give up more in terms of trade benefits the Lakers.
I don't think I can ever envision AI in the same backcourt as Kobe unless it's on an All Star team, and I don't ever want to have to actually see it. We'd have to give up way too much to get him, and quite frankly, Odom is worth more than he is right now. Odom has been consistent this year and is unbelievably versatile, being able to lineup at any position but center pretty much. With Iverson, while he'd most certainly be an upgrade over Smush, I just don't see him working with Kobe in the backcourt. They each have their egos, and for one to have to defer to the other would just not work. Even Phil would have an issue getting this one to work. Plus, Iverson isn't even what we need at all. While he'd be an upgrade offensively, he's still not worth a damn on defense. He gets steaks cause he's pesky and plays the passing lanes, much like Smush. He's not a great one one one or team defender though, and that's something we severely lack on this team outside of Kobe. We'd have to give up just way too much to get him, and at this stage in his career, he's not worth it. He doesn't shoot a high percentage, he doesn't play defense very well, he's constantly hurting, and Odom is more important to our success than Iverson could ever be. No thank you to Iverson.
" Odom has been consistent this year..." This has to be the most incorrect statement made so far. Remember Odom disappeared in the playoffs last year albeit he did great last night against San Antonio but you can't count on him repeating a performance like that on a consistent basis. As far as your arguments against AI the same could be said for any superstar in the NBA everyone has an ego those without them or those who play unselfishly are ususally known as role players but they are the ones that win the games for you and give the glory to the star of the team.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I doubt it, the Lakers could use an upgrade at PG, but this team doesn't need another superstar. There's no reason to pursue AI he's a terrible fit for us. </div> The team could use a superstar big-man like Tim Duncan, Yao, or KG. But they don't need a second mass scoring SG-like superstar, and Kobe is more efficient at it FG%. I think if AI and Kobe were on the same team, then both Kobe and AI would have to take less shots than what they are shooting right now, because there are only so many shots in the game.
<div class="quote_poster">bruin007 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">" Odom has been consistent this year..." This has to be the most incorrect statement made so far. Remember Odom disappeared in the playoffs last year albeit he did great last night against San Antonio but you can't count on him repeating a performance like that on a consistent basis.</div>How has it been incorrect? He's had one "bad" game, and that was the other night against the Hawks. Outside of that one, he's had at least 11 points every game, and he's been shooting the ball rather well as well, at just over 47% on the season. He's been about as consistent as you could ask for, and if you look at his game by game stats, you'd see that. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">As far as your arguments against AI the same could be said for any superstar in the NBA everyone has an ego those without them or those who play unselfishly are ususally known as role players but they are the ones that win the games for you and give the glory to the star of the team.</div>It can't be made for ANY superstar. There are players like LeBron, KG, and Timmy Duncan who, while they have egos, are also VERY unselfish and are willing to defer at an point in the game. The other thing with AI is the sheer amount of shots both he and Kobe need/want. Both need their shots, and if one has to have them decreased, you know something's going to happen. Getting AI will cause nothing but problems for this team, and I absolutely don't want to see him here.
