Schmitz: Magic Must Get Carter

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  1. bbwSwish

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Magic might have enough salary-cap room next summer if they don't give Darko Milicic the world, and if that happens, here's what they should do:

    Get Carter.

    Vince Carter.

    Carter can opt out of his contract with the New Jersey Nets.

    He's a Daytona Beach native, and the Magic need to bring him home. Tell me the Magic wouldn't be knocking on the door of the NBA Finals.

    Maybe Tracy McGrady's cousin will fare better than T-Mac did in his stay here.

    Carter is having another all-star season. He could be the explosive scorer the Magic need to help late in games and take pressure off Dwight Howard.

    Get Carter.</div>

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  2. MickyEyez

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    <div class="quote_poster">Swish15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Source</div>

    Amen brother.[​IMG]

    we need him DESPERATELY... Hill is the glue that obviously holds this team together and he will not be able to do that in a suit.
     
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    ^agree
     
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    I still don't want him. He brings offense and that's about it. We are fine on offense(when healthy). He will demand 15-20 shots a game, something that none of our current players do. It's just a question whether or not you want to keep balance or 1 player taking the majority of the shots. I would much rather see us do what we are doing now(now as in when we were healthy) then seeing VC avg 26-30 ppg. If he was a good defensive player I wouldn't be opposed to it. I would rather spend the money on Darko and some more role players like Noicioni or Josh Howard type players.
     
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    I dont want to see him leave NJ but he only takes that many shots because he ahs to if you watch nets games u will see him passing alot but the shots arent finished. There starters really dont do alot of scoring other than him and Nenad, since RJ has been inconsistent and hurt. You should see how many time Carter passes Collins the ball and he blows a wide open layup or falls over his own foot [​IMG]
     
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    I would rather get a guy like Rashard Lewis and still be able to afford another role player. He's just as effective scoring and he's a great shooter (will help space the floor for Dwight) and I'm sure he will not command nearly as much money as Carter. Plus this guy is only 27 and he improves his numbers every year were carter is 5 years older and declining as a player IMO. I would love to see us get him and a guy like Anderson Varejao, Andres Nocioni or Desmond Mason

    2006-07 Statistics
    PPG 22.0 RPG 6.60 APG 2.3 EFF + 22.38 plus he averages 1.5 stls/gm
     
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    Am I the only one who thinks this is written by an 8 year old? The reasons he gives for acquiring Carter and reasons that he could potentially come here are vague to say the least. It's a blog and everything, but c'mon, put some damn thought and reasoning into what you write.
     
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    after watching these last couple of games, yeah, we need vincanity
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">d-money12 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">after watching these last couple of games, yeah, we need vincanity</div>

    The very last thing you guys need is vince carter. Why on earth would you guys ruin your chemistry and just unbalance the team with him? I'd really rather have Darko then VC, at least Darko has potential, as opposed to the aging Carter. Wouldn't it be better if you didn't resign Darko, to get a quality player, that can maintain the team chemistry and doesn't demand so many bucks and shots.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">d-money12 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">after watching these last couple of games, yeah, we need vincanity</div>

    We will have Jameer and Hedo back at least. They provide at least 30 points of offense pretty much every night. I'm not worried at all. Plus the development of Dwight and Darko's offensive games will still continue to improve. I don't want Vince Carter, basically for the reasons rafy said.
     
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    Rashard Lewis >>>>>>> Vince Carter
     
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    rashard lewis is an underachiever...he is a good player, but he doesnt play "big" it seems like he thinks he is smaller than everyone else on the court. I would rather have carter..plus carter can fill the seats more
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">MainMan Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">rashard lewis is an underachiever...he is a good player, but he doesnt play "big" it seems like he thinks he is smaller than everyone else on the court. I would rather have carter..plus carter can fill the seats more</div>

    Rashard is only 27 years old and getting better every year, How can you call a guy that averages 22/6/2.5 and is the second option an "underachiever" plus I think Rashard is a better fit for this team, he doesn't take as many shots as Carter and he shoots a higher fg% & 3pt%. If this team wins we won't have to worry about "filling the seats" (Which as a fan I don't understand why you really care anyways Let the gm worry about that) Vince isn't the attraction he used to be anyways I would say he has definately lost a step or two in the NJ games I've seen. He is more of a jumpshooter than anything at this point.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheHighness Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Rashard is only 27 years old and getting better every year, How can you call a guy that averages 22/6/2.5 and is the second option an "underachiever" plus I think Rashard is a better fit for this team, he doesn't take as many shots as Carter and he shoots a higher fg% & 3pt%. If this team wins we won't have to worry about "filling the seats" (Which as a fan I don't understand why you really care anyways Let the gm worry about that) Vince isn't the attraction he used to be anyways I would say he has definately lost a step or two in the NJ games I've seen. He is more of a jumpshooter than anything at this point.</div>


    Vince Carter is only a year a half older than lewis and both came into the league at the same time with vincent having college experience. Carter takes more shoots because he is the main shooter on the team. Where as rashard isnt(ray allen). I rather rely on carter hitting a last second jumper in the playoffs than rashard which is a BIG upside in imo cuz we are becoming a playoff contender fast. I dont understand how u think carter lost a step either because if I remember correctly he had the best dunk of the year on zo just last season. He's not going to risk injury by driving down the lane jumping and trying to do a some akrobatic dunk anymore.. he is just playing a little bit more safe and smarter, and I guess you werent at the games after tmac left when there were more seats open than filled... more people in the stands make the game totally different and u cant deny that look at the crowd now its totally energetic from what it was a year ago
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">MainMan Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Vince Carter is only a year a half older than lewis and both came into the league at the same time with vincent having college experience. Carter takes more shoots because he is the main shooter on the team. Where as rashard isnt(ray allen). I rather rely on carter hitting a last second jumper in the playoffs than rashard which is a BIG upside in imo cuz we are becoming a playoff contender fast. I dont understand how u think carter lost a step either because if I remember correctly he had the best dunk of the year on zo just last season. He's not going to risk injury by driving down the lane jumping and trying to do a some akrobatic dunk anymore.. he is just playing a little bit more safe and smarter, and I guess you werent at the games after tmac left when there were more seats open than filled... more people in the stands make the game totally different and u cant deny that look at the crowd now its totally energetic from what it was a year ago</div>


    Rashard just turned 27 in august Vince Carter will be 30 in January, so if my math is correct Rashard is almost 3 years younger. I would much rather have Rashard take a last second shot than Vince and let me tell you why, Vince will be expected to take that shot and he will draw the other teams best defender and probly a double team where as if you have a guy like Rashard he won't, Rashard is 6'10 and can get his shot off against just about anyone Carter is 6'6. Plus on top of that Rashard is a way better shooter than vince esspecially from 3pt range. Okay why would we want a player that is know as a slasher and for him big time dunks taking jumpshots all game. Vince Carter averages 20 shots a game How can you develop guys like Jameer Dwight Milicic and Ariza with a guy taking that many shots. I agree the crowd is alot different w/more people but like I said if you win people will come I mean look at this season, attendance is way up and were selling out game. Don't get me wrong if we get VC I will be happy but not as happy as I would have been if we get Rashard and another nice role player for the same money.
     
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    I wouldn't mind having either one or the other. I mean we definitely need that kind of a perimeter threat. No offense to Hedo, but he isn't scary. We need a guy that the team looks at and says they need to stop. I'm not talking about Dwight, I'm talking about a perimeter threat, another solid 3pt option for us. I rather get Rashard because he's big, younger, and cheaper, but if we get Carter, I would still be happy.
     
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    maybe just maybe...we could have both [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">MainMan Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">maybe just maybe...we could have both [​IMG]</div>

    I still don't want VC.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">GatorsowntheNCAA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I still don't want VC.</div>

    Quoted for the truth. I'd like another scorer, but I think you're going to have to pay too much money and screw the Magic up the arse financially to get him to come here.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">MainMan Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">maybe just maybe...we could have both [​IMG]</div>

    How would that happen?? They both want around the same amount of money. I think VC is asking for $15 and Rashard is asking for like 12 or something like that. I wouldn't want both anyways. Either one or the other but preferrably Lewis.
     

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