Wow, Iverson, Melo, JR Smith, Boykins all i the same backcourt. Thats a lot of field goal attempts...
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If Denver can trade JR Smith for a solid point guard who can play defense, they'll be much, much better off.</div> I'm not so sure about that...Smith will still be a nice additon to Melo after A.I. retires and I believe A.I. can be a distributor at the point.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Allen Iverson and Ivan McFarlin were dealt to Denver for Joe Smith, Andre Miller and two 2007 1st round draft picks (Dallas and Denver's). The Nuggets' own pick is believed to be number one protected, according to a source, while no protection will be on the Mavericks' pick. He reportedly has a 50% chance of being ready to make his debut in a Nuggets' uniform on Wednesday at the Pepsi Center versus Phoenix. DerMarr Johnson currently wears the #3 for Denver and there is no word yet on whether that number will be relinquished or what number Iverson will wear. Philadelphia selected Iverson with the first overall pick in the 1996 draft and the All-Star guard led the franchise to the NBA Finals in 2001.</div> So it was also Ivan McFarlin not a big deal but whatever. Also is AI going to wear #3?
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not so sure about that...Smith will still be a nice additon to Melo after A.I. retires and I believe A.I. can be a distributor at the point.</div> I don't think this trade is about building for the future, though.
Personaly, I would never want Iverson to play for my team, its mainly because Iverson is not a <u>true</u> team player. I mean he does NOT play any defense and he shoots more than anybody, and of course we all know this one. PRACTICE. He does not show up at practices or any other community events.
<div class="quote_poster">31marquis32 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Personaly, I would never want Iverson to play for my team, its mainly because Iverson is not a <u>true</u> team player. I mean he does NOT play any defense and he shoots more than anybody, and of course we all know this one. PRACTICE. He does not show up at practices or any other community events.</div> Yeah, who'd want a future hall of famer on thier team right? And he ONLY averaged 30+ points and 7+ assists for the last two years...sh*t, I wouldn't trade for him at all.
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Don't get too excited, because right now the two picks appear to be the Nugget's own and Dallas' pick, two teams that figure to have two of the best records in the league when it's all said and done, especially now that the Nugz have Iverson. What this trade's going to look like after the draft is just Andre Miller, Joe Smith, Richard Roby, and Morris Almond - still a rip-off. It could be a tank job for Oden, Durant, Young, Wright though. This is one of the most star-studded drafts I've seen in a while, a great relief after three horrible ones.</div> But if they got Alando Tucker as a wing defender late in the 1st... I think those extra picks will actually help them; they give Philly some wiggle room to make trades, either for young players or as part of a package to move up in the draft. I don't think it's out of the question that, even if the two picks end up being, say, #22 and #28, they could package them with a youngster to move into the back end of the lottery, which could still net them a good player in a draft this deep. I guess I'm of the opinion that Philly needed to get a real 1 guard in return for AI, and they got a very solid one, IMO, in Miller. I think he can have a big, positive impact for them. Maybe those two factors are blinding me in this deal, but I think it's a reasonably good trade for Philly.
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not so sure about that...Smith will still be a nice additon to Melo after A.I. retires and I believe A.I. can be a distributor at the point.</div> after A.I. retires? So you're thinking about the 2015-2016 season?
^what the hell are you talking about? Man if Martin never got injured, the Nuggest starting 5 would be composed of: C- Marcus Camby PF-Kenyon Martin SF-Carmelo Anthony SG-J.R.Smith PG-Allen Iverson with Nene and Boykins coming off the bench. Wow. Everyone can score, there big men can block shots, and they can run and gun possibly as good as Phoenix. Oh well, Nene is the next best option they have and can make up for the loss of Martin. Either way, another contendor for the already stacked West. Damn you Philly. Can't wait til' next THURSDAY TNT will be broadcasting the Nuggest (AI) vs. who cares! DAMN durvasa, why do the Rockets always get the shitty end of the stick. At least we get to be the first to see the AI-Melo tandem.
Wow very good trade by the Nuggets but lots of risk involve if it turns out AI can't mix together with Carmelo. Nuggets' future basically now rely on Carmelo and AI to win NOW. Man what a sick lineup when the Nuggets at full strength with AI running the point, JR at the 2, Carmelo at the 3, Kenyon Martin at the 4, and Camby at the 5. People forget how good Kenyon was when he putted his mind into the game. He was one of the best low post defender and aggressive player when he feels like it. However the biggest problem is going to be the team chemistry. With AI having the ball to be effective and the rising of Carmelo's play, and the shoot of JR Smith, it is going to be tough to share just one ball on the court. But hope for the best of it. Personally, I think AI shouldn't go to a team that have a young star like Carmelo. He should goes to a team with a veteran star like KG, Paul Pierce, Ron Artest. As for the 75ers, bad trade period! Looks like it is going to be race between Issiah Thomas vs Billy King, to see who's going get fire first. Basically the 76ers get a 2 1st round draft pick in the 20s and a PG that isn't going to impact the game that much. There is going to be a lot of questions and doubts. The West gets even stronger in the back court now with AI, KOBE, Nash, Allen, and Tmac. Wow...this can change the All Stars lineup in the West. Right now, look like AI just bumps Tmac outta of the starting lineup, and Nash projected to be 4th in the ASG vote ranking
What does this deal do to Denver's salary cap flexibility? They have A.I., 'Melo, and Kenyon Martin (who still has 5 years/72 million dollars remaining on his contract) all on max deals for the next two years (A.I. comes off of the books in '09). Nene signed a 5 year 60 million dollar deal last offseason. Camby is still entitled to another 32 million for the next 4 years and they have marginal players like Eduardo Najera and Reggie Evans making close to the mid level exception. This deal was financial suicide for Denver. They will be over 35 million dollars over the salary cap next season with this current roster. Getting A.I. is great, but they should have at least included Nene or K-Mart to get this deal done. At the very least Reggie Evans or Najera. Owners have to basically spend double the money for every dollar over the salary cap. They aren't just going to make that up w/ ticket sales from Iverson arrival. From a basketball perspective this was a terrific trade for the Nuggets. From the business side, this move rivals any one move that George Karl's nemesis Isiah Thomas has made. This team has to find a way to dump payroll fast. They need instant results from this move to justify this type of spending. And when I say instant they need to be able to make a push towards the NBA Finals. With George Karl running the ship I can't imagine that happening. ...and with A.I., J.R. Smith, and 'Melo on the perimeter you easily have one of the worst perimeter defensive team's in league history. Only Chuck Daly could make sense of this madness.
<div class="quote_poster">kobe4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wow very good trade by the Nuggets but lots of risk involve if it turns out AI can't mix together with Carmelo. Nuggets' future basically now rely on Carmelo and AI to win NOW. Man what a sick lineup when the Nuggets at full strength with AI running the point, JR at the 2, Carmelo at the 3, Kenyon Martin at the 4, and Camby at the 5. People forget how good Kenyon was when he putted his mind into the game. He was one of the best low post defender and aggressive player when he feels like it. However the biggest problem is going to be the team chemistry. With AI having the ball to be effective and the rising of Carmelo's play, and the shoot of JR Smith, it is going to be tough to share just one ball on the court. But hope for the best of it. Personally, I think AI shouldn't go to a team that have a young star like Carmelo. He should goes to a team with a veteran star like KG, Paul Pierce, Ron Artest. As for the 75ers, bad trade period! Looks like it is going to be race between Issiah Thomas vs Billy King, to see who's going get fire first. Basically the 76ers get a 2 1st round draft pick in the 20s and a PG that isn't going to impact the game that much. There is going to be a lot of questions and doubts. The West gets even stronger in the back court now with AI, KOBE, Nash, Allen, and Tmac. Wow...this can change the All Stars lineup in the West. Right now, look like AI just bumps Tmac outta of the starting lineup, and Nash projected to be 4th in the ASG vote ranking</div> Not if China has anything to say about it I love having Yao on our side.
<div class="quote_poster">King-James Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Great for Denver, problably they'll have the Title .</div>Sorry man. The Suns will get it this year. OR, LeBron puts up 35PPG, 7APG and 8RPG in the playoffs and they'll get it.
They interviewed Ralph Lawler last night prior to the start of the Clipper game. Ralph is the voice of the Clippers and has been with the team from the beginning. He was stunned the 76ers turned down the Clippers offer for Iverson. The Clippers offered both of their 2007 1st Round Picks (Clippers & TWolves), which are actually higher up in the draft than the two they received from Denver (Nugget's own & Mavericks). He said the Clippers had several combinations available. He said he couldn't give out any names. He hinted Maggette would be the centerpiece of any deal, and then the 76ers could include any expiring contracts to make up the difference. Clippers expiring contracts include Zelko Rebraca ($3.2M), <strike>Tim Thomas ($5.2M)</strike> Yarolslav Korolev ($1.8M), James Singleton ($625K) and Daniel Ewing ($664K)
Tim Thomas? He signed a 4 year deal this summer. I heard the offer from the Clips was Cassell Maggette Mobley plus picks for Iverson
<div class="quote_poster">AllNet Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Tim Thomas? He signed a 4 year deal this summer. I heard the offer from the Clips was Cassell Maggette Mobley plus picks for Iverson</div> According to Lawler it was any combination the 76ers would want excluding Livingston, Brand or Kaman, to make the deal work. My mistake on Tim Thomas deal, I forgot it was a 4 year deal.
Well I would have to say that the Clippers deal sounds a helluva lot better than what the Nuggets gave them.
