Ailing McGrady

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  1. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">With his back sore from Tuesday's workout and flight from Los Angeles, Rockets guard Tracy McGrady did not work out on Wednesday as expected, making McGrady almost certainly out of Friday's game against the Spurs.

    "Some days he feels better; some days he doesn't feel quite as good. It's very similar to last year as far as there is no definitive answers, no clear-cut date of return. It's the worst place for a player to be, up in the air. I feel for him."

    Rockets athletic trainer Keith Jones said that it is common for McGrady's condition to fluctuate, even while playing. But while trying to come back from back spasms, soreness indicates a need to back off.

    "He did a lot yesterday so we gave him today off," Jones said. "He's actually done well. The doctor gave him a different muscle relaxer which has been good for him, and he knows how to position himself and take care of himself. But this is how it is even when he's playing, some good days and some he's sore."</div>

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  2. lucifer81

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    talking about 3 days later when we facing the spurs, our team needs to bring their dedication from the 1st min and hopefully donot make too many TOs. Even t mac get rid of that back curse,it would be never the same 35s 13 pts as before.
     
  3. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    Now Rockets are gonna start sucking! Whenever McGrady goes out, we start sucking. I thought McGrady said his back was feeling good and all, but now it seems as if his back didn't recover at all from last year, and he is likely to be sore one day and feel good another day. This is really getting me tired. Tmac needs to heal up fast before we lose more games. So basically, from now on if McGrady injures his back again, this will be like last season where he goes out for 3 months. I am getting tired of this. We need to either trade him because he isn't reliable or he needs to stop injuring his back!
     
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    Well, I think some of you guys are overexagerating Tmacs presence. Yes, we do better with him, but we not losing all these games because we dont have Tmac. We are losing these games because its a tough schedule. We're on the longest road trip of the season (5 games). We play four of the five games in FIVE days. That means we play 2 games, rest for ONE day, then play another two games. I dont think many teams can with stand a schedule like that and do well... Although some of the games were winnable, we should not be a team that is dependable on Tmacs health. The team needs to learn to play without Tmac.
     
  5. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    We didn't have a tough schedule. We played Lakers who at that time had the same record, we played Warriors, Clippers, and Trailblazers who are sorrier than us. Almost all the games we've played were close. We need Tmac to bring the clutch game in the 4th. Tmac needs to heal up faster before we lose anymore games. Also Rockets may not need Tmac, but I feel that we can win more games with him, ofcourse. I want Rockets to go on a big run as soon as Tmac comes back so we can catchup with Dallas and San Antonio and try to get a higher spot in the playoffs.
     
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    McGrady's contract is untradable. If he can come back and stay active until the trade dead line, we might be able to trade him, but not for anything special.

    After the 04-05 season T-Mac's stock was high and Kobe's was an all time low. We could have pulled that trade.

    I still vote no to trading McGrady.
     
  7. Johnny33

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    i know a few players i'm sure are available in return for tmac:

    -chris webber
    -half the knicks roster
    -kenyon martin
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">johnny33 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">i know a few players i'm sure are available in return for tmac:

    -chris webber
    -half the knicks roster
    -kenyon martin</div>

    Okayyyy ;p

    I would snipe Dawson myself if any of those trades went through.[​IMG]


















    {Is he serious?}
     
  9. DaRocket

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    T-Mac's health is the reason because Rudy Gay's trade was stupid. T-Mac's health is the reason because Bonzi Wells did not deserve to stay out so long and being out of condition now when needed.

    Yes, I think McGrady must be traded now for some good players. Before it's too late.
     
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    I am sick of this, Maybe T-Mac should just retire. His back problem will make him another Grant Hill. Rockets should trade him for some ok guards ASAP.
     
  11. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    Tracy McGrady for Ray Allen or Michael Redd or maybe Paul Pierce? [​IMG]
     
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    Instead of throwing out all these random ideas and rants, why not sit back and think about it?

    Why would you guys want to trade him now? His contract makes it impossible for the Rockets to get anything as valuable in return. Look at the AI deal. If trading TMac means getting a few picks and a mid-level player, I'll rather not do it. Remember, the Rockets want to win NOW, and trading away your second-best player for some pieces for the future will only set us back.
     
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    Not gonna happen! Big contract and chronic back problems? I don't even think Isaiah is that stupid. I remember long,long ago before I found this great site, I called 610 and bassically pointed out the risk of trading for him. But sure enough I was told he'd be fine and his back problems were behind him. I'm telling you guys even if he comes back think about the playoffs!! Spurs? Dallas? And of course the track meet called the Suns!!!! He would never make it thru that!! CD has to make a move for a perimeter player. Maggette or even Murphy.
     
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    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    I am not that pissed at Tmac, but if he says his back is feeling like it was last year, then Rockets are done. He needs to heal up quicker before we get left behind Mavs/Spurs in the division. Rockets need to learn to win without Tmac and step up in the clutch to close out games. If we can win right now and win with Tmac, then we'll go far in the playoffs, if we lose close and win whenever McGrady comes back, we aren't going far in the playoffs. If Tmac returns within the next 2 games, then we have a chance of going deep in the playoffs. Our season depends on Tmac's back,
     
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    Back problems are the worst, it sounds like somthing that will never completley heal, which means we will most likely have another Grant Hill on our hands here.

    They shouldnt have traded Rudy Gay (even though Battier has proven to be a valuable asset to the team)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">ownage Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well, I think some of you guys are overexagerating Tmacs presence. Yes, we do better with him, but we not losing all these games because we dont have Tmac. We are losing these games because its a tough schedule. We're on the longest road trip of the season (5 games). We play four of the five games in FIVE days. That means we play 2 games, rest for ONE day, then play another two games. I dont think many teams can with stand a schedule like that and do well... Although some of the games were winnable, we should not be a team that is dependable on Tmacs health. The team needs to learn to play without Tmac.</div>
    Are u serious dude? Tmac may not be the explosive scorer from years past, but he's the focal point of this team meaning he makes the engine go. He creates opportunities for others and he gets players involved better than almost anybody in this league. We NEED Tmac to be a legit contender. What were you smokin?????
     
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    I wouldn't jump ship on TMac, all the games the Rockets just lost were winnable. Yao Ming is playing MVP basketball, but from what I've seen, the Rockets need more stability at PG down the stretch of games. Rafer Alston is not the solution to run this team during crunch time. He over dribbles the basketball, takes ill advised shots, and cannot defend.

    This is probably what the Rockets miss most with TMac out. Not having another ballhandler and decision maker to close out games.

    I'd keep an eye on Sam Cassell and the Clipper situation. The Clippers are in a bind so far because of the slow start and it's a constant battle figuring out to start Livingston or continue to use Sammy. I also don't think it went over well with Cassell when his name was mentioned in the Iverson rumors.

    Another former Rocket, Cat Mobley, has also fallen out of the rotation.
     
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    Houston has THE most fickle fans (well, outside some New Yorkers). Unbelievable, the guy is throwing down 50 and people are bragging about how good he is, then he goes down injured and you're wishing we traded him. It's not completely his fault he has had back problems, give the man some time. He can't just get over it, and you should be thankful surgery hasn't been an explored option yet.

    2 years ago this guy was on Kobe's level, sure he's lost some athletic ability, but Kobe had knee surgery (some Laker correct me if I am wrong), and he's come back nicely. I am not saying McGrady will start chucking up incredible shots like Kobe, or even have a similar jump shot, but the man knows how to play basketball. Maybe they'll find something that surgery can fix, maybe he'll all of a sudden feel better, maybe he'll never be the same. Either way, show some loyalty to the guy that single handedly beat the Spurs, scored the game winning shot against the Mavs in the playoffs, in Dallas. If you all don't remember so well, McGrady can look completely disinterested in a game and all of a sudden turn it on. AND if, for no other reason, show loyalty to the guy that demanded he play for this team, even when we weren't doing so great, he wanted to join our roster and said he would only resign with us. The guy that said "Yeah, Orlando will always be my home," but then packs his bags, sells his house, and completely embraces this city like he's lived here all of his life.

    Don't be so fickle, it's sickening.
     
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    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    So whats the latest on McGrady? Man I just have a feeling that we are about to go on a long winning streak as soon as McGrady comes back.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Mag Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Houston has THE most fickle fans (well, outside some New Yorkers). Unbelievable, the guy is throwing down 50 and people are bragging about how good he is, then he goes down injured and you're wishing we traded him. It's not completely his fault he has had back problems, give the man some time. He can't just get over it, and you should be thankful surgery hasn't been an explored option yet.

    2 years ago this guy was on Kobe's level, sure he's lost some athletic ability, but Kobe had knee surgery (some Laker correct me if I am wrong), and he's come back nicely. I am not saying McGrady will start chucking up incredible shots like Kobe, or even have a similar jump shot, but the man knows how to play basketball. Maybe they'll find something that surgery can fix, maybe he'll all of a sudden feel better, maybe he'll never be the same. Either way, show some loyalty to the guy that single handedly beat the Spurs, scored the game winning shot against the Mavs in the playoffs, in Dallas. If you all don't remember so well, McGrady can look completely disinterested in a game and all of a sudden turn it on. AND if, for no other reason, show loyalty to the guy that demanded he play for this team, even when we weren't doing so great, he wanted to join our roster and said he would only resign with us. The guy that said "Yeah, Orlando will always be my home," but then packs his bags, sells his house, and completely embraces this city like he's lived here all of his life.

    Don't be so fickle, it's sickening.</div>
    I still think T-Mac is better than Kobe if 100% but unfortunately we need to start thinking that he will never be 100% anymore. And unfortunately loyalty and respect does not make Rockets winning, just like loayalty and respect does not allow Rockets management to avoid paying contracts for nothing. So we can show loyalty and respect and watch someone else win (and probably getting Yao frustrated after few years), or we can start thinking to rebuild the team immediatly.

    With that said and with the maximum respect for Tracy McGrady, he is not Hakeem Olajuwon nor even Mario Elie! I mean: "the guy that single handedly beat the Spurs, scored the game winning shot against the Mavs in the playoffs, in Dallas" is not that much.
     

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