I've been a fan of Jason Kidd since he played in high school. He's the guard and veteran leader this Laker team needs right now. Kidd would bring a new element to the Lakers offense, and improve the perimeter defense. The Nets just lost Nenad Kristic for the rest of the season, without him they don't have any post scorers. Richard Jefferson is contemplating having ankle surgery, and Vince Carter is going to be a top 3 free agent this summer. With the Nets drafting Marcus Williams, and the trio not getting any younger or cheaper, it might be time for the Nets to rebuild. This Laker squad has been notoriously inconsistent. I attribute it to youth, because it's obvious the team does not come into every game or even every quarter focused on basketball. Most of these guys aren't at a point in their careers where winning a Championship is the pinnacle. The players aren't sharp, they aren't in tip top physical condition, and they don't play hungry until they find themselves down by double digit margin. Bringing in a veteran with Jason Kidd's hunger to win a title and strong work ethic will carry over in the locker room. His ability on both ends makes the game easier for players and he can cover a lot of mistakes with his cerebral approach to the game.
Interesting idea you have there shape. Not a bad one at all. The question is, what are you willing to give up, to get him? I'm sure the Nets would be interested in Bynum among other players. Would you be willing to part with him, to acquire Kidd?
Who would we give up for Jason Kidd? I'm pretty sure that it must include Andrew Bynum in the package. With that being said, I would much rather trade Bynum in a package for Kevin Garnett. But that's just me. Anyways, would the Nets be interested in expiring contracts and first round picks?
Great question, and my answer would be the minimum we would have to send out to land Kidd. Ideally it would be expiring contracts and maybe a our 1st and 2nd round picks. Bynum would not be included, he's close to untouchable. The 76ers didn't get much for Allen Iverson, and eventhough Jason Kidd hasn't demanded a trade, the Nets cannot expect to get equal value for Kidd. I don't know how realistic it would be, but a deal with Kwame Brown as the centerpiece along with draft picks and expiring contracts would be ideal for the Lakers to consider. The Lakers would take back Jason Collins contract aswell and send Radman to the Nets. The Nets could work with a core of Richard Jefferson, Kwame Brown, Nenad Kristic,Marcus Williams, and Radman, plus add two more pieces in this year's draft, plus cap room to re-sign Vince or pursue a different free agent. Kidd+Collins for Kwame, 2007 1st Rounder, Expiring contracts The Nets aren't going to win a title with their current trio, especially with Nenad gone for the season. Kwame is still only 24 year's old, and is capable of being a 15/10 player. If he ever learns how to make free throws, I could see him becoming a 20/10 player.
Let's say that Kidd does become available, I'm sure Minny would be interested in getting him. Is it possible they can patch up a better deal than the Lakers? I think so, and if Kidd has some say in it, do you think he would pick to play with Kobe over KG? Of course it is all speculation, and the Nets might not even want to deal Kidd. If they decide to start rebuilding then dealing Kidd might be the case, but they haven't taken that step yet. I'm sure they are listening to offers, but I think they will wait a while longer before making any drastic changes.
<div class="quote_poster">Kidd Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Let's say that Kidd does become available, I'm sure Minny would be interested in getting him. Is it possible they can patch up a better deal than the Lakers? I think so, and if Kidd has some say in it, do you think he would pick to play with Kobe over KG?</div> Will the Timberwolves even be interested in Jason Kidd? Last I checked, they barely even made a push for Allen Iverson.
<div class="quote_poster">Kidd Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Let's say that Kidd does become available, I'm sure Minny would be interested in getting him. Is it possible they can patch up a better deal than the Lakers? I think so, and if Kidd has some say in it, do you think he would pick to play with Kobe over KG? Of course it is all speculation, and the Nets might not even want to deal Kidd. If they decide to start rebuilding then dealing Kidd might be the case, but they haven't taken that step yet. I'm sure they are listening to offers, but I think they will wait a while longer before making any drastic changes.</div> Minnesota didn't even have enough to land Allen Iverson, and with KG and Kidd making $20M a season, it's impossible for the TWolves to build a contender. They don't have a 1st round pick, and I doubt New Jersey wants any of their overpaid role players like Marko Jaric or Troy Hudson. I'm sure a lot of teams would be interested if Kidd became available, but the Lakers are one of the few teams who need a PG and can contend for a title by landing someone like Jason Kidd. I'm assuming the Nets would only trade him to the Western Conference, and the only other team who is a title contender and could use Kidd, would be Dallas. They also have some nice trade pieces to acquire Kidd.
<div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Will the Timberwolves even be interested in Jason Kidd? Last I checked, they barely even made a push for Allen Iverson.</div> Agreed, but with each loss, KG becomes more impatient. He might come to a point where he would demand a trade, if changes aren't made. If Kidd becomes available, he might push the management to pursue him. If they don't, then KG will want to be traded. Not because he is an asshole, but because he is tired of losing. If changes aren't made to benefit the team, then he will feel that they don't care. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Just a question, is Kidd even available</div> Doesn't seem to be. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm assuming the Nets would only trade him to the Western Conference, and the only other team who is a title contender and could use Kidd, would be Dallas. They also have some nice trade pieces to acquire Kidd.</div> Something tells me that they won't want to break apart their team, but I might be wrong.
Forgot to include the Clippers, although I'm not sure they can put together a better deal than the Lakers could. I agree, Dallas is a longshot, they are playing fantastic basketball right now, and you never want to disrupt team chemistry if you don't need to. Jason Terry is finally scoring again. Is Kidd available? At this point he doesn't appear to be, but if the Nets continue to struggle, and with Kristic out for the year, I'm sure his name is going to surface.
<div class="quote_poster">Kidd Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Agreed, but with each loss, KG becomes more impatient. He might come to a point where he would demand a trade, if changes aren't made. If Kidd becomes available, he might push the management to pursue him. If they don't, then KG will want to be traded. Not because he is an asshole, but because he is tired of losing. If changes aren't made to benefit the team, then he will feel that they don't care. </div> Either way, like Shape said, the Timberwolves don't really have a chance to land Jason Kidd. If the Nets do trade away Jason Kidd, then I'm guessing they will be heading to a rebuilding mode (Carter is a FA in the off-season and may not be back). With that being said, the Lakers have expiring contracts, young talent, and draft picks. The Timberwovles don't really have any expiring contracts, and they don't even have a draft pick this year. With that being said, I think the Lakers could easily out-bid the Timberwolves. But if Kidd does become available, obviously there wouldn't be only 2 teams interested. So I'm just wondering what other teams have to offer
I could see Kidd in a Laker jersey if Andrew Bynum is part of the deal. But when Krstic comes back, they both play the same position unless one of them move down to power forward. Besides Bynum, who else would the Lakers trade for Kidd?
<div class="quote_poster">Carter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I could see Kidd in a Laker jersey if Andrew Bynum is part of the deal. But when Krstic comes back, they both play the same position unless one of them move down to power forward. Besides Bynum, who else would the Lakers trade for Kidd?</div> I would not trade Andrew Bynum for Jason Kidd. Some players I would trade away though, are Chris Mihm, Aaron McKie, Smush Parker, and Shammond Williams (all have expiring contracts). Also, Kwame Brown, who has emerged as a defensive force, and Vladamir Radmanovic. I'd also be willing to part ways with a first round pick.
Would it be smart to take on Kidd's contract? (averaging 18, 19, and 21 mill a year) If they had some other options of say sign and trading for Billups at like 9-10 mill a year or some other pointguard and then using the additional 8-12 million on a center.
<div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Would it be smart to take on Kidd's contract? (averaging 18, 19, and 21 mill a year) If they had some other options of say sign and trading for Billups at like 9-10 mill a year or some other pointguard and then using the additional 8-12 million on a center.</div> It would be a gamble, but the Lakers are one of the few team's who can absorb Kidd's salary. Trading for Kidd now, would give the Lakers 2 1/2 seasons to win a title. If not, the Lakers can revamp in 2009 with Kidd and Odom having expiring deals, and the team switching directions in building around Bynum and no longer Kobe Bryant. PG - Kidd / Smush / Farmar SG - Kobe / Evans / Vujacic SF - Walton / Cook PF - Odom / Turiaf C - Bynum / Collins IR - Mihm This is a solid lineup to make title run with.
I see you have it all planned out shape. Well, make a call to Thorn, and follow it up with a call to Mitch. Let us know their plans.
Kidd and Kobe will be a killer. The best PG and SG. But the Lakers will have to give alot for JKidd and will it be worth it. He is an aging player, he doesn't show signs of age, but he might b y the time the Lakers try to trade for him.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It would be a gamble, but the Lakers are one of the few team's who can absorb Kidd's salary. Trading for Kidd now, would give the Lakers 2 1/2 seasons to win a title. If not, the Lakers can revamp in 2009 with Kidd and Odom having expiring deals, and the team switching directions in building around Bynum and no longer Kobe Bryant. PG - Kidd / Smush / Farmar SG - Kobe / Evans / Vujacic SF - Walton / Cook PF - Odom / Turiaf C - Bynum / Collins IR - Mihm This is a solid lineup to make title run with.</div> Yea I don't really know what to think about the trade. Obviously acquiring Jason Kidd would be great for the Lakers, but taking on his 59 million over 3 years? I think Phil Jackson seems to be the guy who can make the best out of role players, Jason Kidd is the kind of guy that no matter which coach does well. I think the Lakers should try to acquire someone who is undervalued and doesn't make as much as Jason Kidd. How did the Lakers manage with Derek Fisher? If the Lakers were to take on a 20 mill contract I think a Jermaine O'Neal (82 over 4 years), KG (67 over 3 years), or maybe a Pau Gasol (not too high on Gasol atm, but his contract is long 75 mill over 5 years)
Any of those players would help, but KG and Gasol would cost more because they are in the same conference as the Lakers. Gasol is also still young, and Memphis doesn't plan on making any major changes since the team is for sale. Jermaine O'Neal is intriguing, but Kwame Brown actually outplayed him the Pacer game. I'm not sure the Lakers would drastically upgrade with JO in the starting lineup. In contrast, Jason Kidd is major upgrade for our backcourt on both sides of the basketball.
id rather have kg for that would be a unstoppable backcourt Kobe and Jason kidd Only problem i have with jason kidd is every time he shoot a freethrow he kisses his butt
