Who's the best player in the NBA?

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  1. sportsaholic

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    The case for Dwyane Wade:
    Dwyane Wade is a fantastic young player, and has earned the respect of basketball fans around the world. He's only 24, and has a ring, and a NBA Championship MVP.
    How many 24 year old super stars have done that? Not a lot if you ask me. Now, let's take a look at the stats..28.6points per game, along with 8.2 assist. So, he can dish out the assist and shoot the basketball, which a lot of people can't do. That's pretty good..Do you see anyone else doing that? No. So, I think you need to consider Dwyane Wade for being the best in the NBA.

    The case for Kobe Bryant:
    As you may know, I hate Kobe Bryant, but that doesn't mean I think he isn't a good basketball player, but if your going to be the best in the NBA, then you better be able to win by yourself, and he hasen't done that yet. Now don't get me wrong here, he's a great basketball player, but he's not winning like great basketball players like him should. Now, the stats aren't that bad for him, though, but he need's to be getting more assist and rebounds. I personally don't think that a 6'6 basketball player like him should be adverging only 5 rebounds a game. He should be getting about 7 a game, along with a few more assist. Also, he needs to shut his mouth sometimes, and if your going to be as good as he is, then you better have a good reputation.

    The case for LeBron James:

    I think LeBron James has lived up to his potential and is a great basketball player. Just take a look at his stats! 27 points a game while dishing out 6 assist and grabbing 6 rebounds. Not that bad!
    One thing I love about him is his power, and he's only 21 years old! He's built like a football player, if you ask me! He's 250 pounds! Was Jordan as powerful as that at 21? No! Am I saying that he is in the same league with Jordan? Only a fool would say that. He still has a lot to prove in his career, but the rate he is going, no telling what he can do.

    The case for Gilbert Arenas:
    Is Arenas a great player? Yes. Is he the best? No.
    He has had a great year but, it's still early and he hasen't had a year like this before. If he has done this before then I would say he is the best but he hasen't. If he keep's it up then I will make this argument but he hasen't done this before, so we don't know if this will last threw out the year. Yes, he's adverging 30 point's a game and 6 assist but, his career adverge is 22 points and 5 assist a game, so he hasen't had a year like this before, so we don't know how long this will last. Also, he doesn't have an all around game.

    The case for Steve Nash:
    Yes, I am a Steve Nash fan, but I'll try to not be a homer here. I'll just get to the point...
    Steve Nash is a point guard and plays that possetion very well if you ask me, but one thing that make's him different from the rest of the players in the NBA.
    Let's face it, if Nash wanted to score 30 point's a game, he could. He could so that along with dishing out 11 assist, but the one thing that make's him different from everyone else is the magic you feel when he has the ball.
    You may ask, how can a guy who is adverging 20 point's a game be the best player in the NBA? This is why, he know's when and when not to take the shot. He isn't a player that just goes around shootong the ball. He's pass first, then shoot.
    One last thing for Nash. He make's the players around him better. Not that many players can do that. Did you know who Boris Diaw was with Atlanta? Probably not. Do you know who he is now? Yeah..So thats make case for Nash.


    P.S. I wrote this at 2:40 in the morning, so I'm sure this is full of errors.
     
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    Wasn't it Kobe Bryant who took his team to the playoffs and forced the Game 7 versus Suns last year ? Allen Iverson hasn't won a ring neither. Yes he took his team to the finals, but that's it.

    Steve Nash is the best player in the NBA at the moment.
     
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    That's a guard-heavy list. Where's KG and Tim Duncan?

    I'd say the most skilled/complete player is Kobe Bryant.

    The player I'd most want on my team if I want to win games and ultimately win a championship would probably be Tim Duncan.

    The player who does the most for his team (i.e. they'd be god awful without them): it's between LeBron, Wade, and Garnett.

    And the player I'd want long term -- duh, it's LeBron.
     
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    Well, I'm 13 and wrote this at 2 in the morning so I'm sure it's not very good, and I forgot some players.
     
  5. The Dream

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    right now, I'll say Wade.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's a guard-heavy list. Where's KG and Tim Duncan?

    I'd say the most skilled/complete player is Kobe Bryant.

    The player I'd most want on my team if I want to win games and ultimately win a championship would probably be Tim Duncan.

    The player who does the most for his team (i.e. they'd be god awful with them): it's between LeBron, Wade, and Garnett.

    And the player I'd want long term -- duh, it's LeBron.</div>

    Good points durvasa; though I disagree with your Championship/most-for-his-team remark, but that's fine.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Good points durvasa; though I disagree with your Championship/most-for-his-team remark, but that's fine.</div>

    You'd take Kobe in those categories?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You'd take Kobe in those categories?</div>

    Actually, I'm not sure, but, I wouldn't speak with as much conviction as you.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Actually, I'm not sure, but, I wouldn't speak with as much conviction as you.</div>

    Well, I wouldn't say I have much conviction. Just giving my opinions at the moment. Could change in a week. [​IMG]

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The player I'd most want on my team if I want to win games and ultimately win a championship would probably be Tim Duncan.

    The player who does the most for his team (i.e. they'd be god awful without them): it's between LeBron, Wade, and Garnett.</div>
     
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    depends on how i feel during the day.

    1. Kobe Bryant/ Lebron James
    2. Lebron James/ Kobe Bryant
    3. Dwyane Wade
    4. Kevin Garnett
    5. Dirk Nowitzki
    6. Tim Duncan

    ...something like that.
     
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    Man... the decision between Lebron/Kobe/Wade is hard. I wake up one day thinking Lebron is better, next thinking Kobe, next Wade. It really is hard.

    But most days, I'll take LeBron
     
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    the reason I say Wade right now is because I believe he is the best "leader" out of the 3.....he's the only one that has proven that he can "carry" a team to the promised land...besides that the guy can get to the basket whenever he wants (Bron and Kobe can also, but I think Wades been doing it a little more this year than those 2), his midrange game is nasty, he's the best clutch player right now, and he's improved on his 3 point game and defense
     
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    Tim Duncan is very overrated. His stat's are just as good as Marion's and Marion doesn't get any credit. So, if I'm gonna put him on the list, then I'm putting Marion.
    Yes, he is very good when it come's to winning but he isn't doing it by himself. He has the players around him, so don't go and kiss his a**. Am I saying he sucks? Of course not, but he's not as good as people say he is.
     
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    ^^^lol, although he's still in another league than Marion, I have to somewhat agree with you....Tim has definitely lost a step...it kind of reminds me when Hakeem started to regress.....he's still a great player, but there are a number of others who I'd say are better than him.
     
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    Right now, its kobe. He is the most most polished offensive player in the game, who can do anything at all. However, where he seperates himself from the others on this list is his defense. Unlike Nash, Lebron, Wade, or Arenas, he annualy one of the NBA's top defenders.
     
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    I haven't been impressed with Kobe's defense this year....that point is really not one of his strong arguments anymore....Arenas, Redd, and Wade have lit him up this year...I always thought his defense was overrated, but it's been flat out terrible this year (along with the rest of L.A.'s perimeter defenders)
     
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    This year, Kobe's defense has been pretty average. Maybe it's the knee, but he doesn't have that lateral quickness he had last year or the years before.
     
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    I'm sorry but, without a doubt, the best is Dwyane Wade. He is the NBA Championship MVP and is a complete player. How many people can score 30 point's a game along with dishing out 10 assist? Nash can but not every night like Dwyane Wade. Also, some of the shot's he make's are unbelievable.
     
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    ^^^never use the phrase "without a doubt"...a good argument can be made for a few players.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">sportsaholic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Tim Duncan is very overrated. His stat's are just as good as Marion's and Marion doesn't get any credit. So, if I'm gonna put him on the list, then I'm putting Marion.
    Yes, he is very good when it come's to winning but he isn't doing it by himself. He has the players around him, so don't go and kiss his a**. Am I saying he sucks? Of course not, but he's not as good as people say he is.</div>

    His stats are way better than Marion's. Duncan doesn't have to play a lot of minutes because the Spurs are so dominant and blow teams out so easily. He's got a 26.6 PER, which is pretty close to his MVP-caliber years:

    <div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><br/>season PER<br/>01/0227.0<br/>02/0326.9<br/>03/0427.1<br/>04/0527.0<br/>05/0623.1<br/>this year26.6<br/></div>

    Marion plays about 5 more minutes a game, and his stats are inflated because of Phoenix's high tempo pace. He's got a 22.0 PER, solid but not close to Duncan's level.

    The Spurs win foremost because of Duncan. His game is quiet and not particularly pretty, so people tend to forget it. But he's still a GREAT player.
     

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