Purpose of the Pass

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  1. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Bryant said there is a purpose behind his plan this season to score less and pass more. Bryant said getting more from his teammates is the only way his Lakers will become more of a playoff powerhouse.

    Said Bryant: "I'm trying to get others more involved. Last year was difficult because so many of the guys were still trying to get a grasp of the new (triangle) offense and I had to take on a big chunk of the scoring load. But this year, that's not the case. There are some games where I have to take over, but more often I'm not needed to do that. It's more fun this way because I'm seeing them develop and gain some confidence. And I know deep down that's what's going to help us get playoff victories."</div>

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    Yea Kobe ur da man
     
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    With Kobe passing and after odom comes back the Laker team will be hard to beat. But i still think they need a solid PG.
     
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    His assist aren't really up..

    His career adverge is 4.5 and his season adverge is 5.2.
    Not that big of a difference.

    Also, his point's per game is up from his career adverge.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">sportsaholic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">His assist aren't really up..

    His career adverge is 4.5 and his season adverge is 5.2.
    Not that big of a difference.

    Also, his point's per game is up from his career adverge.</div>

    The stats don't paint the picture of Kobe's approach to this season. He's really adament about facilitating the offense and getting everyone involved. It's not so much whether he gets the assist or not, what's important is Kobe playing within the parameters of the Triangle and motivating his teammates to be in the right spots on the court.

    Even if Kobe is not credited with the assist, he's the player making the pass leading up to it.
     
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    That's fine and understandable, but what about his lax defense as of late? That's really irritating me.....[​IMG]
     
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    I think you guys are forgetting that his knee probably isn't 100% yet, he probably isn't in playing shape yet, and he's also fighting the flu. He's been solid on offense. With Odom down, he has to work extra hard on offense which is hurting him on defense.
     
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    I really like Kobe's game this year. There's a maturity to his game that I haven't noticed before. He's almost like a coach on the floor.

    I agree, him deferring a little more to his teammates will pay dividends in the long run.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">sportsaholic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">His assist aren't really up..

    His career adverge is 4.5 and his season adverge is 5.2.
    Not that big of a difference.

    Also, his point's per game is up from his career adverge.</div>

    LOL... assists dont improve the game of his teamates... kobe "passes and lets his team mates create for themselves" thats the change in his game
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">kobe23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">LOL... assists dont improve the game of his teamates... kobe "passes and lets his team mates create for themselves" thats the change in his game</div>

    Then how does that help? Basicly, what hes doing is saying "Hey, heres the ball and go do something with it." Not a very good idea if you ask me![​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">sportsaholic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Then how does that help? Basicly, what hes doing is saying "Hey, heres the ball and go do something with it." Not a very good idea if you ask me![​IMG]</div>

    Well our record is now 19-10 as opposed to 15-14 this time last season. So yes, it is a very good idea to me. [​IMG]
     
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    I'm loving the way Kobe is playing this year. He's still getting the points when we need them, but he's getting others involved more often this year, which will help the team in the long run because by deferring, it shows he actually has confidence in them this year, which by all means should make the players more confident.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">sportsaholic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Then how does that help? Basicly, what hes doing is saying "Hey, heres the ball and go do something with it." Not a very good idea if you ask me![​IMG]</div>

    Like Shape already said, many times Kobe isn't the player getting credit for the assist, but he makes the pass that leads to the assist. Basically, he's setting up his teammates
     
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    To prove he's passing more, this season's FGA per game is at 19.3, where as last season it was 27.2. If he's not shooting the ball, he can only be passing instead.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Laker_fan Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well our record is now 19-10 as opposed to 15-14 this time last season. So yes, it is a very good idea to me. [​IMG]</div>

    How many game's did you start off at home? Yes, you need to play the game's you got but that helps...
     
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    You watch him play and you see the difference. You don?t have to look at the boxscore or stats to see what?s changed. He doesn?t force as many shots this year. He understands that he doesn?t need to score 40 every game for them to win. He trusts his teammates to make the right play, something he didn?t too much early in his career.
     
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    He attempted over 45 shots today and had 4 assist.
    So much for passing.
     
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    Did you watch the game? (1)the Lakers needed him to shoot and (2)they didn't convert on his passes.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Bryant said there is a purpose behind his plan this season to score less and pass more. Bryant said getting more from his teammates is the only way his Lakers will become more of a playoff powerhouse.

    Said Bryant: "I'm trying to get others more involved. Last year was difficult because so many of the guys were still trying to get a grasp of the new (triangle) offense and I had to take on a big chunk of the scoring load. But this year, that's not the case. There are some games where I have to take over, but more often I'm not needed to do that. It's more fun this way because I'm seeing them develop and gain some confidence. And I know deep down that's what's going to help us get playoff victories."</div>


    You're full of crap Kobe, so much for the passing.

    BlackMamba, the question is, did you watch the game?


    They needed Kobe to shoot? 3 overtimes...

    1st overtime:

    -Bryant Turnover: Lost Ball Out of Bounds (3 TO)
    -Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
    -Walton Layup Shot: Made (14 PTS)
    Assist: Parker (3 AST)
    -Brown Layup Shot: Made (11 PTS)
    Assist: Bryant (4 AST)
    Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
    Bryant Reverse Layup: Missed Block: Okafor (4 BLK)
    Evans Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS)

    ^^So don't give me that crap. Kobe was 0/3 with 2 made free throws. While the rest of the Lakers were 3/3.

    And even if they miss it, can you blame them? They're so out of sync because Kobe takes over the game and doesn't look to pass to anyone LET ALONE run our OFFENSE.

    In 2nd OT, he kept us alive.

    In 3rd overtime, Kobe shoots a 3 pointer when we're down by 5 when there was no reason for it. That totally killed any chances of us winning. If we just run our offense and get a 2 pointer right there, we're down by 3. We play some defense and get the ball back, we score again, and we're down by 1.

    Kobes "never lose" attitude is starting to hurt us. He should be our weapon in the last minute or two in the game.

    15 minutes in OT and we did nothing productive, freakin pisses me off.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">sportsaholic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He attempted over 45 shots today and had 4 assist.
    So much for passing.</div>

    Well, it was only one game fellow. Lamar Odom is also out, so Kobe tries to carry his team more. His percentage was better than the rest of the team for that game, and he still only shoots 20 times a game. Besides, there was little wrong with him last year anyway when he was taking 27 shots a game (different circumstances).

    The OT period didn't turn out as well as it could have, but obviously, Kobe's going to make errors in judgement sometimes. Kobe's TS% is still higher than Wade's, people should worry less.
     

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