Posey's A Goon

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  1. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">As a defensive back, James Posey would be considered a headhunter. As a basketball player, he's an out-of-control thug who continues to seek and destroy Bulls players like he's on some maniacal video-game mission. Never mind he was suspended a game for hip-checking and derailing Kirk Hinrich in the playoffs. Never mind he welcomed Tyrus Thomas to the NBA on Opening Night with a vicious shot to the chops, forcing the kid to wear a protective mask.

    Wednesday night, Posey was compelled to resume his Rock 'Em, Sock 'Em Robots crusade in what undeniably has become a heated, escalating rivalry between the Bulls and Miami Heat, coached by old nemesis and head-game-player Pat Riley. As Luol Deng drove the lane in the fourth quarter, Posey clotheslined him with his arms and body, tackling him with such force that he was ejected for a flagrant foul as Deng clutched his wrist on the floor.

    The crowd, aware of the perpetrator, booed angrily. By the bench, Scott Skiles was steaming. When asked how Posey should be disciplined, he replied with a stone-cold glare, ''What I'm an advocate of wouldn't be politically correct in 2006 in the NBA. So I'll keep it to myself.''

    Riley, who has been dueling the Bulls since the dynasty days, wasn't nearly as diplomatic. He accused Hinrich of intentionally injuring the right hand of Heat superstar Dwyane Wade, who immediately left for the rest of the game with a sprained right wrist. ''Yeah, Hinrich pulled his hand. Hinrich grabbed his hand -- which he does all the time. That's what he does,'' Riley said of the first-quarter sequence. ''Anytime Dwyane comes off screens, they always grab his shirt or his hand. It's a little bit of a tactic, down below the body where the official can't see it. He had Dwyane's hands, and he tried to pull it out of there. And something happened.''

    Suddenly, a 109-103 Bulls victory seemed secondary to the politicking and the muck. If what happened to Wade is a wrist injury that keeps him for an extended period, Hinrich is about to become Public Enemy No. 1 in south Florida. ''It felt like my wrist got pulled out of place,'' said Wade, who will have an MRI today. ''Right now, it's pretty painful, like it got yanked out of the socket. I had no strength in it and couldn't shoot.''

    Hinrich, known as a tough defender but never dirty, wasn't hearing any of it after a radio reporter played him Riley's comments. ''It's unfortunate he got hurt. In no way was I trying to hurt him,'' Hinrich said. ''I know I was out there chasing him, and off the screen, there was contact. I don't know if he got tangled up or what. I can't worry about Pat Riley. I've got to worry about myself. He's gonna try to do his job, and I'm gonna try to do mine.''</div>

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  2. Voodoo Child

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    Posey's always been an extremely aggressive defender. That's just the way he plays. He can be dirty at times, like Bruce Bowen, but in a way, that's what makes him such a great defender. It's nothing personal against the Bulls though. I remember Paul Pierce trying to fight him about three or four years ago when he played for the Grizzlies. He just draws intense emotions out of opposing fans and players, but there's nothing cheap about his play.
     
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    I've never been a huge fan of this guy. I'm not saying that he's got it out for people, but it certainly seems that way sometimes. This is what, the 2nd time he's been whistled for a flagrant 2 against the Bulls since the playoffs last year. It's really ridiculous if you ask me. As for Riley's comment, Hinrich just isn't the type of player that would be out to get anyone. He's by no means a dirty player and I don't see him as the type of guy that would try to hurt Wade. I think Riley was just trying to take some attention away from the Posey hit that could have severly hurt Deng, but thankfully it didn't.
     
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    An out-of-control thug? This guy is taking this a tad too seriously. Also, look at the replay of the Wade injury, look closely and you can see Hinrich grab Wade's hand. Also, I doubt Posey has anything against the Bulls, he did what any other defender would've. Maybe it was a bit hard but it's not like Deng was seriously hurt or anything.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Playmaker15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">An out-of-control thug? This guy is taking this a tad too seriously. Also, look at the replay of the Wade injury, look closely and you can see Hinrich grab Wade's hand. Also, I doubt Posey has anything against the Bulls, he did what any other defender would've. Maybe it was a bit hard but it's not like Deng was seriously hurt or anything.</div>

    He's having X-RAYS done on his wrist this week to see if there is a serious injury. He broke his wrist his rookie season and according to him had just started to feel 100% from that. Anyway, I agree with this article Posey is the definition of dirty, last season he tackles Hinrich, then he breaks Tyrus' nose, and now he tackles Deng. What makes it worse is that his fouls are obviously dirty ones, there isn't even a question about it.
     
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    Posey was suspended 1 Game for the incident.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Posey was suspended 1 Game for the incident.</div>

    he deserved it!
     
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    Thanks for the video, I hadn't seen the play with those angles. Very dangerous hard foul by Posey, who basically collared Deng and continued to pull down after the initial blow. If Deng handed put his hand out to break his fall, the side of his head would have smacked right on the hardwood, and he'd suffer a concussion.

    After watching it in slow motion, a 1-game suspension isn't enough. This isn't the first time Posey has dished out a dangerous cheapshot. He should've been hit with the same amount of suspension Mardy Collins received 6 games!
     
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    I think the writer went a bit too far.... he acts like posey is out to get the bulls or something....
    Plus wades injury was more sever than dengs he had to leave the game, deng stayed in, anyways it was a hard foul and i could see how bulls fan would get mad. Plus the elbow to tyrus thomas wasnt intential he was trying to get the rebound.
     
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    Wade's injury is a seperate incident. I haven't seen all the angles on that foul yet, does anyone have the video?

    The problem I have with Posey's foul, is he didn't even try to make a play on the ball. He went straight for Deng's shoulder and then pulled down, which caused the impact to be more forceful than it should have. Posey should have at least tried to help break the fall.
     
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    One game is complete bullshit. Why give someone that has a history of hard flagrant fouls only one game? He most definitely deserved at least a few games, if not 5 or 6.
     
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    wtf? Posey is just a plain thug. That play shows it and then he argues?

    What's he trying to pull.

    The evidence is there, he either hates the Bulls or is just plain dirty.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQyFuAKBeOI - the Wade injury, can't really see much.
     
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    They showed an overhead shot of the Wade play and it CLEARLY showed Hinirch grab Wade.
     
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    Who is they?
     
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    The Heat pre-game. Showed a slow-motion replay where the camera was directly over Wade and Hinrich, Kirk held on to Wade, and you can even tell in the one you posted as well.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Playmaker15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Heat pre-game. Showed a slow-motion replay where the camera was directly over Wade and Hinrich, Kirk held on to Wade, and you can even tell in the one you posted as well.</div>

    The fact that you need an overhead, slow motion replay to see what happened between Wade/Kirk pretty much shows it was something unintentional, there is no way you can justify what Posey has done to the Bulls players over the past few years as anything other than cheap shots.
     
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    The difference between the Posey and Hinrich incidents is that Posey had the intention to hurt Luol Deng, while Hinrich was just trying to stop Wade from receiving the pass. He injured Wade, but at least that wasn't his mindset at the time. Seriously the replays show enough evidence of them both to easily tell the difference. One game suspension is not enough for the player, but the league is poor at making judgments and taking action so I'm never surprised anymore.
     
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    Poseys statistics against the Bulls...

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    Posey also committed a flagrant foul against Deng on April 16 and has three flagrants, two suspensions and one broken nose of Tyrus Thomas in his last nine games against the Bulls.</div>
     
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    Dude, you should get a new sig that shows a Bull character or a Bulls player sweeping the floor with Posey right into a trash bin. Reminds me of a t-shirt I had custom made with a bunch of European techno/house artists being swept into a recycling bin with a broom and on the back it reads "Please Recycle Euro trash."
     

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