O'Bryant to D-League

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  1. Clif25

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    Wow thanks, Clif. Those are very respectable numbers. I wonder what he looked like out there. Looks like Biedrins' numbers on a random game.

    Man... I'm hearing about Matt Barnes story on the news. I hope we can re-sign him if coaches feel this guy could be consistent year to year and game to game. All this talk makes me feel really angry at the same time. It sucks how we wasted all this money on Dunleavy when we could have wasted it on Barnes. Despite the amount of threes this guy takes, he pretty much does a lot of things. He even fixed his shooting. He just hustles it. Any guy who plays a high energy game will make guys like Murphy, Dunleavy a waste of roster space. I think it's because Baron, Jrich, Ellis, Pietrus, Biedrins are all intense, high energy players. So naturally more energetic guys fit with that group. Ike could do it eventually. Heck I bet Brian Cardinal could probably suit up and outplay Dunleavy right now. If Baron gives him the ball, he'll probably make it. And if he misses, he won't miss as bad as Dunleavy and miss the entire cylinder. I hate to ramble again, but if we look at Dunleavy's shooting %'s at the line, I think they tell a tale of what this guy's mental game is really like. He's not a cool character when he's thinking about his shot.
     
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    O'Bryant in game number 2 in the NBDL: 8 points, 7 boards, 2 blocks, 1 turnover, 4 fouls, 19 minutes. http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/20070106/...L/boxscore.html He's gotta keep out of the foul trouble. I wish he was able to get to the line like Ike, but I suppose I have that wish for most players...well all players on the Warriors.

    By the way, the D-League may not be all that, but what do you all think about Rick Rickert? I remember he was pretty good in college. He is still only 23 years old, which is pretty young. He's 6-11, works hard, rebounds, gets to the line and makes them, he seems extremely active on the court which is probably the cause for him averaging more offensive boards than defensive. When the Warriors get weak in the front court due to some injuries, I wouldn't be against giving this guy a try, even in the offseason with the summer league or by being one of the offseason camp invitees. http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/rick_rickert/
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ha! Rick Rickert... I remember a story that Kevin Garnett supposedly punched him in the face when he was scrimmaging for the Twolves. Garnett was getting embarassed that Rickert was beating him, so Garnett supposedly took a swing at him and Rickert had to go to the hospital.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A...anguage=printer

    Maybe we can use Rickert against him next time we play the Twolves. [​IMG]

    http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/rickrickert.htm</div>


    OMG -- Are you serious? Wow... *takes serious stock about humanity and the state of the NBA*... if there were a few elite people in the NBA that I thought represented class, honor, and dignity... KG would be at the top of my list... if the reports are true.. that he socked this guy, unprovoked.. as well as socking Wally Szerbiak in practice... WTF!?!? That just doesn't seem like the KG I thought I knew...
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    My elite guys with class were/are: Lebron James, Grant Hill, Yao Ming, Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, Steve Nash, Tim Duncan.

    Lebron James was especially class to me because even though he was a rookie, he wouldn't get carried away with highlight reels in a blowout win. He says it was "disrespectful" to the other team and to the game. That's pretty awesome.

    And if we think about international players, Nash and Yao have to be at the top of that list.
     
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    [quote name='custodianrules2;746409
    Lebron James was especially class to me because even though he was a rookie, he wouldn't get carried away with highlight reels in a blowout win. He says it was "disrespectful" to the other team and to the game. That's pretty awesome.[/quote']

    Wow he said that? Maybe he should tell Gerald Green that.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Man... I'm hearing about Matt Barnes story on the news. I hope we can re-sign him if coaches feel this guy could be consistent year to year and game to game. All this talk makes me feel really angry at the same time. It sucks how we wasted all this money on Dunleavy when we could have wasted it on Barnes. Despite the amount of threes this guy takes, he pretty much does a lot of things. He even fixed his shooting. He just hustles it. Any guy who plays a high energy game will make guys like Murphy, Dunleavy a waste of roster space. I think it's because Baron, Jrich, Ellis, Pietrus, Biedrins are all intense, high energy players. So naturally more energetic guys fit with that group. Ike could do it eventually. Heck I bet Brian Cardinal could probably suit up and outplay Dunleavy right now. If Baron gives him the ball, he'll probably make it. And if he misses, he won't miss as bad as Dunleavy and miss the entire cylinder. I hate to ramble again, but if we look at Dunleavy's shooting %'s at the line, I think they tell a tale of what this guy's mental game is really like. He's not a cool character when he's thinking about his shot.</div>

    I 100% agree with you. As much of a Dunleavy enthusiast I am, the play of Matt Barnes has really shown the true value of Dun. Murphy as well.

    We need to trade Murphy, Dunleavy, and J-Rich to Indiana for Jermaine O'Neal + 2 scrubs...immediately! [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Lebron James was especially class to me because even though he was a rookie, he wouldn't get carried away with highlight reels in a blowout win. He says it was "disrespectful" to the other team and to the game. That's pretty awesome.</div>

    I guess this is another area that LeBron beats his nemesis Carmelo at. Carmelo was getting close and even surpassing James in some games, but now Melo is back at square one.

    Wouldn't be surprised if it affects his game, too.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The plane that flew Patrick O'Bryant out of the NBA last week was what he called a "crop-duster."

    It's a shame, there really hasn't been decent luxury-plane service on the Oakland-to-Bakersfield route since the SST fleet was grounded.

    O'Bryant flew from Oaktown to B-town when the Warriors assigned him to the Bakersfield Jam, their affiliate in the NBA Development League. The D-League, as everyone calls it, is a promising concept, but it could use a new nickname, unless the D could stand for the emotion most of its players share: desperation.

    O'Bryant isn't thrilled to be here, but he isn't desperate. He'll eventually return to the Warriors, and his $2.06 million salary is about 100 times higher than any regular D-Leaguer makes, because salaries top out at $24,000.

    The move to Bakersfield was one O'Bryant had hoped almost desperately to avoid. Warriors coach Don Nelson is known to be tough on rookies, and O'Bryant was expecting what he got -- a lot of hard coaching from Nellie and little playing time. Still, the 20-year-old planned to learn on the job with the big club.

    Jam coach Jim Harrick has been urging the Warriors all along to assign O'Bryant to Bakersfield. When Harrick read a newspaper story about Nelson letting O'Bryant decide where he spends his rookie season, Harrick phoned the Warriors' front office and made this point: "Who's the parent?"

    Explaining why O'Bryant is better off in Bakersfield, Harrick says, "Young guys like to play basketball."

    But on Thursday, on the morning of O'Bryant's first D-League game, he doesn't seem thrilled, although he tends not to show a lot of emotion.

    "I thought I could learn more by watching (while sitting on the Warriors' bench)," O'Bryant says. "I finally kind of saw the light." </div>

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    I don't see much offense in the box scores, but at least he rebounded: http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/20070110/...A/boxscore.html 6 points (3-7), 12 boards, 2 assists, 3 turnovers, 1 block, in 28 minutes.

    This is his combined stats after only 3 games. http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/patrick_obryant/

    Hopefully he can come back and help the team at least rebounding. Hoping that his offensive game would suddenly flourish might have been too much hopeful thinking or wanting, hehe. Just quit it with the fouls and add a little defense and things should be OK for O'Bryant.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Kensaku Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I 100% agree with you. As much of a Dunleavy enthusiast I am, the play of Matt Barnes has really shown the true value of Dun. Murphy as well.

    We need to trade Murphy, Dunleavy, and J-Rich to Indiana for Jermaine O'Neal + 2 scrubs...immediately! [​IMG]</div>

    Hey, my proposal wasn't too far-fetched, was it? [​IMG]
     
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    Haha, Kenasku, that was pretty damn close especially if those two scrubs turned out to be Cabbages and Powell.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Kensaku Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I 100% agree with you. As much of a Dunleavy enthusiast I am, the play of Matt Barnes has really shown the true value of Dun. Murphy as well.

    We need to trade Murphy, Dunleavy, and J-Rich to Indiana for Jermaine O'Neal + 2 scrubs...immediately! [​IMG]</div>

    I would have loved this deal too. [​IMG]

    Especially if we got a Manu Ginobilli type guy to replace Richardson. I'll always love Richardson, but a playmaking shooting guard that can make free throws, pass, dribble would be super nice addition to Baron Davis! [​IMG]

    Nice call on the Indiana trade though.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I would have loved this deal too. [​IMG]

    Especially if we got a Manu Ginobilli type guy to replace Richardson. I'll always love Richardson, but a playmaking shooting guard that can make free throws, pass, dribble would be super nice addition to Baron Davis! [​IMG]

    Nice call on the Indiana trade though.</div>

    Hm... what do you think of Ricky Davis? Fits your description.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Hm... what do you think of Ricky Davis? Fits your description.</div>

    I like Ricky Davis. I thought Pietrus would become sort of like him, but I guess I was wrong.

    I didn't like Ricky Davis in Cleveland, but his time in Boston really showed something. The guy was such a stat padder, but he's gotten better as a team player you'd want on your roster either starting or coming off the bench. He can play defense, he can score, he's energetic and pretty exciting to watch. He's a decent shooter if he can watch his shot selection. I like the fact he can be unselfish, but his turnover to assist ratio isn't that stellar. He can be kind of a streetball mentality, but he's effective creating his shot. I would love to have a tall, quick + athletic swingman that can play the two and help Baron out on drive and kick type isolations. I think Richardson is better than him in some ways, but Davis has a better all-around game, maybe.

    This lineup would be so kickass though:

    pg: Baron Davis
    sg: Jason Richardson (as sf)
    sf: Ricky Davis (as sg) (instead of Stephen Jackson)
    pf: Al Harrington
    c: Andris Biedrins

    pg: Monta Ellis (I bet we all agree we need somebody to emulate Baron Davis off the bench)/Jasick-a-something
    sg: Kelenna Azbuike/Jasickeviciuous blahhhh
    sf: Matt Barnes/Mickael Pietrus
    pf: Mickael Pietrus/Josh Powell
    c: Adonal Foyle/POB
     

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