<div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nuh uh... I was referring to the current teams first of all. With Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili, even without his apparent offensive game that you keep mentioning, Hayes would be getting a ridiculous amount of open looks. When Duncan shifts over to center, Hayes would be in position to play a fantastic role by cleaning up the misses and getting offensive rebounds for the team. Basically, Duncan and Hayes would make a very effective rebounding unit for the Spurs. Najera played for the Mavericks what, like in the 2004 season? Stick with the times, thats some pretty irrelevant information considering they have almost a completely different team from then. Again, if Nowitzki shifts over to center and Hayes plays powerforward, it allows Nowitzki to stay out in the mid range and arc more. In case he misses, Hayes has a good chance of getting that miss.</div> I referred to the old teams because that was the closet thing they had to a hustle player. The fact is, ain't nobody gonna be asking for Chuck Hayes. The only reason he's gettin mins on this team falls on JVG. The same reason we signed Ryan Bowen. That's why I was frustrated earlier, because a championship team shouldn't be playin a 6'6 PF who couldn't throw a rock in the ocean. He might get some rebounds and set some hard screens, but he's not that much of a difference maker. <div class="quote_poster">aznxballer Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Okay. But you're also misinterpreting it. I was referring to the team in general, a counterpoint I made to your addiction to offense.</div> Addiction? No, just appreciation for puttin the ball in the basket. Being a basketball mind, I realize the more efficient we are offensivley the more of a threat we are. Our defense is great, and alwayz will be. All we need to do become more potent offensivley. If we can average over 100pts, we're gonna win the championship.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I referred to the old teams because that was the closet thing they had to a hustle player. The fact is, ain't nobody gonna be asking for Chuck Hayes. The only reason he's gettin mins on this team falls on JVG. The same reason we signed Ryan Bowen. That's why I was frustrated earlier, because a championship team shouldn't be playin a 6'6 PF who couldn't throw a rock in the ocean. He might get some rebounds and set some hard screens, but he's not that much of a difference maker. </div> Its funny when you try to justify irrelevant points. Ultimately, Van Gundy will be the one giving him minutes, but I would also think his ridiculous rebounding rate has something to do with him getting minutes. I don't know, maybe? Hayes has a good field goal percentage, so I'm sure he can put the ball into the basket. At this point, you're definitely underrating him. Can't throw a rock in the ocean? Please. If he's not so much a difference maker, then how come the Lenovo stat is so high when he's in the line up? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Addiction? No, just appreciation for puttin the ball in the basket. Being a basketball mind, I realize the more efficient we are offensivley the more of a threat we are. Our defense is great, and alwayz will be. All we need to do become more potent offensivley. If we can average over 100pts, we're gonna win the championship.</div> You can make the same exact case for defense too (which I pointed out earlier). You can always improve our defense and make it absolutely shut down while still maintaining our current offense and win. It works both ways, if we can hold the opponent down while we're making our usual amount of shots, we're going to find success.
<div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Its funny when you try to justify irrelevant points. Ultimately, Van Gundy will be the one giving him minutes, but I would also think his ridiculous rebounding rate has something to do with him getting minutes. I don't know, maybe? Hayes has a good field goal percentage, so I'm sure he can put the ball into the basket. At this point, you're definitely underrating him. Can't throw a rock in the ocean? Please. If he's not so much a difference maker, then how come the Lenovo stat is so high when he's in the line up?</div> It's irrevelant to YOU, because you refuse to acknowledge my points. I don't think any other coach would've given Hayes a contract. JVG has an obsession with undersized Pf's, so Hayes was a no brainer (for him). Hayes has a good percentage because he doesn't take many shots, and I'm sure you already knew that but didn't wanna say it. However, he can't shoot, his free throw% is terrible, and he can't finish with a hand in his face (even at point blank range). He can rebound, but he's foul prone on defense. <div class="quote_poster">foo82 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You can make the same exact case for defense too (which I pointed out earlier). You can always improve our defense and make it absolutely shut down while still maintaining our current offense and win. It works both ways, if we can hold the opponent down while we're making our usual amount of shots, we're going to find success.</div> No, it doesn't work like that. Have you been following the NBA? The elite teams ALL have multiple scoring options to go with good D. Why wouldn't you aim toward that? Since we already have the best defense in the NBA, would it make sense to get MORE defense and ignore our offense? That's not very intelligent logic. The smart move would be to have better "balance". If ur defense is great, then the obvious thing would be to better ur offense. Simple..
<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No, it doesn't work like that. Have you been following the NBA? The elite teams ALL have multiple scoring options to go with good D. </div> Dallas was an elite team last year, right? They got 9.7 points/40min out of Dampier and 5.0 points/40min out of Diop. And Diop was starting for them in the playoffs. Right now, Chuck is at 9.0 points/40min.
