<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">very well said - - I think this is a key point. Sure, Kobe deserves some credit, but Phil has his system and it works baby</div> For what its worth the Triangle offence is way way more complicated than a run and gun offence thus harder for players to learn it
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If Kobe and the team continues to play like this when Odom and Kwame return, then yes Kobe will win MVP ... FINALS MVP!</div> Huh? Do you mean kobe will get the MVP, Reach the Finals and get the Finals MVP?
<div class="quote_poster">Omarion Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Suns have played 33 games, Amare has played 32. If you are talking about the first 6 games of the season, where Amare only had 1 game where he played more than 25 minutes. Games where Amare played less than 26 minutes: Loss:They lost to a hot Utah team by 4 pts. Loss:San Antonio by 5 pts in SA. Loss:Clippers by 6 pts in LA. Win: Clippers by 8 pts. Win: Memphis by 9 pts. The other game where Amare played 35 pts, the lost to Dallas by 7. So although they went 2W-4L, it was against 3 of the best teams (SA, Dallas, Utah) in the West, and the losses were pretty close.</div> What no credit to the lakers for that other lose? LOL
<div class="quote_poster">tix_ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">While Nash is having a great year, the suns didn't start winning till Amare started showing up. Look at the box scores and the the Win column, it all corresponds. When Amare got healthy = they went on their huge run. Without Amare lighting it up like they were, the suns pretty much sucked. (no offense)</div> You sh1tting me? As far as I can remember, Suns are the same team that eliminated Lakers in playoffs WITHOUT Amare. I give a lot of credit to Nash.
Personally i thought the first few games w/ Amare coming back from injury (and struggling), he was more of a burden to the suns success rather than being the key to it. IMO, the suns would have been fine w/out him.
hahhahahah you guys dont seem to know what your talking about.. that one dude said the suns didnt start winning until amare was healthy????? how about all last season man? the suns had a bad start, but the games were all extremely close and came down to the end..every close game requires a little luck, and they just werent getting lucky.
<div class="quote_poster">Pakman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You sh1tting me? As far as I can remember, Suns are the same team that eliminated Lakers in playoffs WITHOUT Amare. I give a lot of credit to Nash.</div> Well sure, but the Lakers weren't a top tier team last year.
<div class="quote_poster">Pakman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You sh1tting me? As far as I can remember, Suns are the same team that eliminated Lakers in playoffs WITHOUT Amare. I give a lot of credit to Nash.</div> As far as I can remember, nobody predicted us to take the Suns to 7 games
Same here. As far as I remember, most people wrote us off in 5 or 6 and never expected us to push the much more taletned Suns team to the brink of elimination.
If Dallas wins over 60 games again and get the best overall record I highly doubt that Dirk fails to get It. Although Kobe is having his best ever season. Lakers would need to win 52-55 games I feel.
We're well on our way to getting 50 odd wins. Currently, we're nearly half way there and we've been cursed with the injury plague. I think we'll get around 52 wins this season.
<div class="quote_poster">Laker_fan Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">We're well on our way to getting 50 odd wins. Currently, we're nearly half way there and we've been cursed with the injury plague. I think we'll get around 52 wins this season.</div> Something to also consider was our favorable schedule in the 1st half of the season. The Lakers have played a lot of games at home, and our strength of schedule is more difficult in the 2nd half of the season. I am encouraged by our 7-7 road schedule, and there were a few games we let slip by. I predicted this team would win 50 games this year, and they are on pace to reach that goal.
In my opinion, the bottom line is this: Kobe is having his best year this year, and if he and the Lakers keep it up, he deserves MVP. However, that doesn't mean he will get it. There are other guys who are also having great years and whose teams are even better. Namely Nash and Nowitzki. Wade is also having a great year, and if the Heat make a big run with Shaq back, he will also need consideration. At this pont though to already come to the conclusion that one guy (Nash or Kobe) deserves it is ridiculous
<div class="quote_poster">kobe23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What no credit to the lakers for that other lose? LOL </div> Yea oops, sorry about that. I looked at Novembers first 6 games where Amare played less than usual minutes. I assumed October was all pre-season and was wrong.
<div class="quote_poster">Pakman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You sh1tting me? As far as I can remember, Suns are the same team that eliminated Lakers in playoffs WITHOUT Amare. I give a lot of credit to Nash.</div> The Suns were also the team that were suppose to walk ALL OVER the Lakers in the playoffs even without Amare which they didnt.
<div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">In my opinion, the bottom line is this: Kobe is having his best year this year, and if he and the Lakers keep it up, he deserves MVP. However, that doesn't mean he will get it. There are other guys who are also having great years and whose teams are even better. Namely Nash and Nowitzki. Wade is also having a great year, and if the Heat make a big run with Shaq back, he will also need consideration. At this pont though to already come to the conclusion that one guy (Nash or Kobe) deserves it is ridiculous</div> Dirk has stack(guy with exp), j terry, howard Nash has amare, marion, barbosa, diaw wade? wade CANT carry the Heat without shaq... he can only help them be at .500 Duncan has parker, ginobli, finley(guy with exp) Boozer? or even Deron? have each other, AK, Mehmet, Fisher (guy with exp) Name an MVP candidate aside from kobe that 1. Has a Winning record (around 8 wins more than their loses) 2. Does not have all - star's for team mates 3. Shares the ball IMO lebron and kobe are the top 2 choices ryt now with neither being above the other why? Who does lebron have? Hughes- never been an all star, injury prone Big Z - Old, Slow Gooden - Consistent (thats it) Varejao - are you kidding? Damon Jones - The chinese shoe endorser Who does kobe have? Lamar - whose is emotionally unstable ryt now Kwame - Injured again? Bynum - 18 years old! Evans - Exchanged for a 2nd rd pick Farmar - A Rook! Walton - His dad's Bill Radman - has yet to do anything Cook - Cooks his own food lol kidding Anyway, Kobe and Lebron really are the MVP's of their team take them away and what do you get? Oh yeah i Forgot Tmac... well im too sleepy to add him up... its obvious why anyway
If the Lakers will end up with a good record and if Kobe continues his superb game, why not ? But I still don't believe that Kobe will get that MVP award... And why are we only talking about Kobe & Nash. Dirk is great, so is LeBron. Many guys (but not me) said that Wade WILL win MVP this season, hell no ! We have to wait for the 2nd half of the season and then we can say something. Still, I think when Lamar returns, Kobe will change his game JUST to get a better record for his team. He is far from selifsh. He is absolutely a team-first type player. Last season and atm, scoring is all he can do to get the W. And he's putting up great RPG and APG, too.
