<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> And that record is why the Nets have actively been talking around the league trying to ascertain the trade value and determine the return for their players - all their players. Several opposing executives insist the Nets have been as active, if not more, in their calls than any team in the league. But sources on both sides insist there is nothing imminent</div> Source
chris webber will do nothing for the nets. He's past being a productive player. At most he's a decent bench player because of his defensive rebounding and passing.
<div class="quote_poster">Answer_AI03 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">chris webber will do nothing for the nets. He's past being a productive player. At most he's a decent bench player because of his defensive rebounding and passing.</div> If you haven't noticed, we're starting Jason Collins right now. Chris, being gimp, is far better, and probably faster too.
<div class="quote_poster">nextlevelgame Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If you haven't noticed, we're starting Jason Collins right now. Chris, being gimp, is far better, and probably faster too.</div> Definately better and faster..............
Chris Webber would certainly be an upgrade, and he'd sign for cheap so he'd be a nice addition to the Nets. The question becomes whether or not Chris Webber feels he's difference maker the Nets are looking for to give him a title shot. I would assume Webber would try to sign with Phoenix to play in an uptempo offense and to team up with his college buddy, Jalen Rose. The Suns are in pursuit of a big man, and Webber has the skillset to fit in with Phoenix. If he does sign with them, maybe NJ can go after Kurt Thomas?
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Chris Webber would certainly be an upgrade, and he'd sign for cheap so he'd be a nice addition to the Nets. The question becomes whether or not Chris Webber feels he's difference maker the Nets are looking for to give him a title shot. I would assume Webber would try to sign with Phoenix to play in an uptempo offense and to team up with his college buddy, Jalen Rose. The Suns are in pursuit of a big man, and Webber has the skillset to fit in with Phoenix. If he does sign with them, maybe NJ can go after Kurt Thomas?</div> Yeah, if offered the opportunity, Webber would probably decline. Similarly to most players hyis age, Webber, at age 34 in March, is looking to be in a position to contend again. The Suns are probably in the best situation to scoop him up: they could use a big man, he has the passing skills to make a difference in a Phoenix offense, and to top it off he plays with his fab five teammate in Rose. I don't know if New Jersey has the chips to land Kurt Thomas. He's only like 6/6 but those in the tri-state area are familiar that Kurt Thomas doesn't look to fill in the stat sheets. He's a very good low post defender, a lethal shooter when open, and is a pretty good rebounder as well. That's the perfect piece to the Jersey offense AND defense. Other than the "Big 3" the Nets' talent level takes a real hit. It will be hard for the Nets to match salaries with the Suns too, unless a third team is involved. I also agree with the notion no player is untradable. Perhaps they might be a bit reluctant to relinquish their young talent: Marcus Williams, Hassan Adams, and Antoine Wright, but no player other than Kidd has shown any type of consistency and he's 34 in a matter of months and is making close to 60 million. Of all the players mentioned Kidd is the one I would probably be last to trade, but if the Nets do decide to rebuild as rumor has it, Kidd's contract won't allow them to do so. It will also free up space for the point guard of the future, Marcus Williams who has been showing promising signs even though he hasn't been getting as many minutes of late. Also if Carter leaves - which appears very likely with the Nets' struggles - New Jersey might be inclined to just scrap the whole team and start afresh when they move to Brooklyn.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I would assume Webber would try to sign with Phoenix to play in an uptempo offense and to team up with his college buddy, Jalen Rose. The Suns are in pursuit of a big man, and Webber has the skillset to fit in with Phoenix. If he does sign with them, maybe NJ can go after Kurt Thomas?</div> I would think PHX plays too fast of a tempo for Webber. Jalen Rose is a good passer and scorer, and still hasn't gotten minutes. I look for Houston or San Antonio to be his best options. With Yao or Duncan, he can play a high-low post offense and both are filled with shooters that Webber can find. That's who I'm betting my money on. San Antonio need Webber, even if he has defensive deficiencies.
Webber really doesn't bring anything that Nenad Krstic already provides, so I don't really see him being worth the time and money.
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Webber really doesn't bring anything that Nenad Krstic already provides, so I don't really see him being worth the time and money.</div> Yea but with Krstic out, it gives us some reason to sign for the rest of the season. However, I don't think we will end up getting him. Either he will sign with someone else, or we won't even bother pursuing him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Webber really doesn't bring anything that Nenad Krstic already provides, so I don't really see him being worth the time and money.</div> Like mentioned, Krstic is gone. Secondly, rebounding, passing, and experience. That's a whole lot that Nenad isn't great at.
I'll admit, Krstic's injury completely slipped my mind. But still, the effort in getting him just doesn't seem to be worth it. For one, he's a short-term solution for a team with problems that need more than just a "band-aid." Also, there's just better options out there. You've got Magloire, Haywood, and Ely as unhappy big men who actually address the Nets' frontcourt problems. And if you want to aim high, you could make a run for Jermaine O'neal with one of your star swingmen and a prospect.
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'll admit, Krstic's injury completely slipped my mind. But still, the effort in getting him just doesn't seem to be worth it. For one, he's a short-term solution for a team with problems that need more than just a "band-aid." Also, there's just better options out there. You've got Magloire, Haywood, and Ely as unhappy big men who actually address the Nets' frontcourt problems. And if you want to aim high, you could make a run for Jermaine O'neal with one of your star swingmen and a prospect.</div> Yea, but the Blazers and Haywood both want out first round pick. I don't think we should give that up unless it's for KG or JO. JO seems like a good option. However I don't think they are interested in Carter, and the player they would be most interested is RJ, and he isn't 100%. Why would they take him then?
I'm just talking in hypotheticals now, but if I'm the Pacers and I know that O'neal is that close to demanding a trade, I'd definitely see what you can get. I agree that a player like Carter doesn't look too appealing considering his contract situation. And Jefferson is currently injured. But, compare that to the B.S. offers they'll be getting when Jermaine pulls an Iverson. Again, not saying that it's easy or anything, but the oppurtunity's present and the other teams are definitely willing to negotiate. The article seems to be implying that the Nets are looking to make a move that'll solve a fundamental problem with this roster. While Webber definitely provides scoring and rebounding that they miss with all the injuries, I don't think the Nets should be focusing on short-term solutions right now.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You've got Magloire, Haywood, and Ely as unhappy big men who actually address the Nets' frontcourt problems. </div> Webber has gone sorely underrated.
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm just talking in hypotheticals now, but if I'm the Pacers and I know that O'neal is that close to demanding a trade, I'd definitely see what you can get. I agree that a player like Carter doesn't look too appealing considering his contract situation. And Jefferson is currently injured. But, compare that to the B.S. offers they'll be getting when Jermaine pulls an Iverson. Again, not saying that it's easy or anything, but the oppurtunity's present and the other teams are definitely willing to negotiate. The article seems to be implying that the Nets are looking to make a move that'll solve a fundamental problem with this roster. While Webber definitely provides scoring and rebounding that they miss with all the injuries, I don't think the Nets should be focusing on short-term solutions right now.</div> Yea, they would be interested in our younger guns. I'm talking about Marcus Williams, Hassan Adams etc. Do we really wanna give up our future stars, and hope we actually end up winning a championship, so it seems worth it. I really don't think so.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Webber has gone sorely underrated.</div> I'm not a Webber fan at all, so it might be a little bias on my part. I just think his age has caught up with him, to the point that you can legitimately criticize him for not being a presence downlow. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mercury:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea, they would be interested in our younger guns. I'm talking about Marcus Williams, Hassan Adams etc. Do we really wanna give up our future stars, and hope we actually end up winning a championship, so it seems worth it. I really don't think so.</div> It's true. But it also brings up an interesting issue, because if the Nets continue to struggle the way they have then it looks like they may be stuck in limbo between rebuilding and contending. And if you really want to commit to your younger players, like Williams, Boone, Wright, Hassan, or whoever you get with your draft pick, then you have to consider if it's worth keeping Kidd or Carter around anymore. IMO, I would trade any one of those young players along with either VC or RJ if you could O'neal (along with some decent players from their organization). Kidd and O'neal are both legit franchise players who could easily carry the Nets to the Finals together. You can't be sure of the same from any of the Nets prospects (that includes Marcus Williams).
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not a Webber fan at all, so it might be a little bias on my part. I just think his age has caught up with him, to the point that you can legitimately criticize him for not being a presence downlow. </div> Not a presence downlow? And you think Haywood, Ely, Magloire are? Chris is a shade of who he used to be, but surely he's better than those guys. He can still rebound. Hit a jumper, and pass like a point gaurd. We don't need him to be #1 or even #3 option. Just a reliable one while getting boards and finding open players. If he can do that, he'd make us better. Guys like Haywood, Ely, Magloire, they wont change the dynamics of our team. They're nice players, role players, but no understanding of things like winning, and playing smart. Something Chris has, (please, no time out jokes--that was over a decade ago). Personally though, I don't have much respect for Haywood after that scramble he started in Chicago last preseason, and he's been fighting with Eddie Jordan, a coach that did wonders here in jersey. Magloire sat out a year for a broken pinky. Not even the index finger. A pinky. I don't want him. Ely. I like him, but if he can't beat out Primoz for minutes, I question how valuable he is.