Dwyane Wade - Untouchable

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  1. rafy

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    <div class="quote_poster">Answer_AI03 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Just because he does it alot does not make him the best at it. Its just his game is more of a slasher type than say kobe or t-mac. And he doesnt get calls just becuase he goes to the rim every play. he gets calls because he has a reputation of being a big time player in the league so he will get the benefit of the doubt. I think the refs fall for his crap way too much, and sooner or later the refs should be fined for falling for it. That travel was so blatant i dont see how it was called a foul. Oh well, guess everyone should just get used to seeing wade's 360 fall on the floor and scream like your dying plays.</div>

    o.k.
     
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    Nice bailout call on that three last night.

    D-Whistle strikes again!!

    Luckily It didn't cost Philly the game. The Heat shouldn't of even got the ball back as the game from what I saw didn't even come off Philly.

    Basically last night proved most people's thoughts on the calls Wade gets.
     
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    I guess we're going to have to get used to it.
     
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    It was a foul. But I guess that's besides the point. [​IMG]
     
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    If you look at the replay he definately got hit on the elbow, how is that not a foul? He still choked anyways but Andre Miller bailed him out not the refs.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Playmaker15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If you look at the replay he definately got hit on the elbow, how is that not a foul? He still choked anyways but Andre Miller bailed him out not the refs.</div>

    Youtube/video link?
     
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  8. rafy

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    <div class="quote_poster">AllNet Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nice bailout call on that three last night.

    D-Whistle strikes again!!

    Luckily It didn't cost Philly the game. The Heat shouldn't of even got the ball back as the game from what I saw didn't even come off Philly.

    Basically last night proved most people's thoughts on the calls Wade gets.</div>

    Wow, thanks. I didn't know you were allowed to hit/touch people on the elbow when they're shooting. Thanks, I'm going on Sunday and playing in my rep league, I'm going to go around and hit people on the elbow when they shoot and then whine how they get superstar calls, [​IMG]

    Thanks.

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070119/MIAPHI/gameinfo.html

    At like 1:35 you can see he just got him on the elbow.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AllNet Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nice bailout call on that three last night.

    D-Whistle strikes again!!


    Luckily It didn't cost Philly the game. The Heat shouldn't of even got the ball back as the game from what I saw didn't even come off Philly.

    Basically last night proved most people's thoughts on the calls Wade gets.</div>

    Uh...Did you see the play? [​IMG] Just because Wade didn't fall backwards doesn't erase the fact it was a foul. The replay blatantly showed how he was hit in the arm...

    And one more thing, all this Wade paying the refs bullshit common man, thats just disrespectful. Not only does he not have control over if the refs call a play or not, but this guy is making history and playing incredible basketball right now and all you guys can say is

    "Oh, the refs, its all the refs, Wade pays the refs"


    That's F***ing ridicilous man. Thats all I have to say.
     
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    Seen the replay, see that kind of play happen all the time and is never called. He touched him but again barely any contact. That kind of play happens almost everytime someone just to put a hand up. If It wasn't the NBA's poster boy who got hit..would they have called a foul? certainly not.

    Wade paying the refs? no not at all, David Stern sorts the payment out.

    Not just the calls, It's the amount of travels he gets away with. Such as his famous 360 swirl he does alot to get into the paint.

    Anyway enough complaining, Wade can't depend on the refs to get the repeat this year. The guys he has around him aren't up to the job anymore.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AllNet Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Seen the replay, see that kind of play happen all the time and is never called. He touched him but again barely any contact. That kind of play happens almost everytime someone just to put a hand up. If It wasn't the NBA's poster boy who got hit..would they have called a foul? certainly not.

    Wade paying the refs? no not at all, David Stern sorts the payment out.</div>

    Well, I think Wade is a good actor as well, let's not forget that either (not saying that's a good thing though, seems cheap). I don't know anyone else who lies on the floor (etc.) as much to get a call.
     
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    I mean, if a man obviously gets fouled and you still deny it and consider it a normal play, then I guess theres nothing else I can do.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, I think Wade is a good actor as well, let's not forget that either. I don't know anyone else who lies on the floor as much to get a call.</div>

    Wow, another hater that didn't see the play and is making judgements, Wade didn't even flop or act on that three he just got hit, so where does the Wade acting come in this play..I mean, I'm sorry the man got fouled..damn

    I just find it funny how the only people bitching about Wades calls are Piston fans, Laker fans, or Maverick fans....
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Miami Flash City Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">

    Wow, another hater that didn't see the play and is making judgements, Wade didn't even flop on that three he just got hit, Im sorry that Wade got fouled..

    I just find it funny how the only people bitching about Wades calls are Piston fans, Laker fans, or Maverick fans....</div>

    What, there is someone else who lies on the floor that much to get a call? [​IMG]

    How is that hating? I wasn't talking about just last night's game.

    Why is it funny that I'm a Laker fan and talking about Wade? You're a Heat fan I could just as easily say you're a homer (not saying you are yet, just making a point).
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Miami Flash City Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I mean, if a man obviously gets fouled and you still deny it and consider it a normal play, then I guess theres nothing else I can do.



    Wow, another hater that didn't see the play and is making judgements, Wade didn't even flop or act on that three he just got hit, so where does the Wade acting come in this play..I mean, I'm sorry the man got fouled..damn

    I just find it funny how the only people bitching about Wades calls are Piston fans, Laker fans, or Maverick fans....</div>

    This isn't about just one play, It's about every game Wade plays. Has nothing to do with what teams people are a fan of. Everyone who sees Wade against their team feels the same one way or another. Wade is a good enough player not to get speical treatment from the refs.

    After the joke of what was the NBA finals, has really got me annoyed with what he gets away with. Heat getting knocked out in the playoffs early would be justice.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What, there is someone else who lies on the floor that much to get a call?</div>

    [​IMG]

    Na, of course not.
     
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    why is this so important, its not like the heat have a good season record, so the calls don't seem to be helping... and show me a video of his spin move.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Miami Flash City Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG]

    Na, of course not.</div>

    So Rasheed gets more calls (or flops more) than Wade then? Lol. Did Rasheed get 16 ftp in the Finals?

    Wade goes to the line a bunch of times because he's a good slasher, talented player, actor, etc.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So Rasheed gets more calls than Wade then? Lol. Did Rasheed get 16 ftp in the Finals?

    Wade goes to the line a bunch of times because he's a good slasher, talented player, actor, etc.</div>

    Uh....I think we were on this topic:

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"What, there is someone else who lies on the floor that much to get a call"</div>

    Thats what I was refering to, who said Rasheed gets more calls than Wade??? By that photo I was implying that Wade is not the only one who lies on the floor complaining about calls, so why are you acting like Wade is the leader of lying on the floor complaining about calls??

    If you see him on the floor its because he just got hit hard after a strong drive, taking it to the hole is the smart thing to do, correct? So why are you blaming him for driving in strong and falling..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Miami Flash City Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Uh....I think we were on this topic:



    Thats what I was refering to, who said Rasheed gets more calls than Wade??? By that photo I was implying that Wade is not the one who lies on the floor complaining about calls the most..</div>

    Well that was quite mute...

    Of course people flop in the NBA (Shoutout to Divac, Manu, etc. !), they just don't get as many calls as Wade (my main issue with him was the Finals btw).
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It was a foul. But I guess that's besides the point. [​IMG]</div>
    lol, of course Wade doesn't actually ever get fouled. I saw someone post that Wade get's 6-7 bail out calls a game, mmm, that would basically be all his FT attempts, so are we saying Wade should be getting 0 FTA/G?

    huevonkiller, the only argument you ever have is the finals, so no one cares anymore....

    People are so obsessed with the Wade get's too many calls thing that they don't realize that he doesn't actually get every call. If you really wanted to waste some time and go and analyze every play, you could find many missed calls on Wade, but what use is that to anyone? Wade <u>deserves</u> at least 10 FTA/G based on how he plays, and I'm not talking about just driving to the basket, but knowing how to draw contact. At least Wade plays angles very well, Maggette is not bad at doing that, but he really just puts his head down and drives, and he get's calls all the time. People always want to argue that he doesn't get crunch time calls, but when he has the ball in his hands, he does lol.

    Really, what people are arguing is like maybe 1 extra FTA/G. Michael Redd get's 8.8 FTA/G on 19.8 FG's, Wade get's 11 on 19.4 FG's. Wade plays close to the basket more and attacks the basket more aggressively than Redd. I like Redd, but I don't see how anyone can <u>logically</u> think Wade shouldn't be getting more calls than him, so what are you really complaining about? Last years playoffs still? Is that the only argument that's available?

    Another one you can look at is Bosh getting 8.6 FT's on 15.5 shots. Does Bosh drive more aggresively than Wade? Well relative to FGA's, Bosh draws more fouls than he does.

    I put out the facts, but people ignore it. Wade in his second season averaged 11 FTA/G the first month of the season, BEFORE he was considered a big name, or even an All-Star. In his rookie year, he had a higher foul drawing rate then Lebron and Carmelo did, and he wasn't close to being as big as either of them then (not close). Lebron and Carmelo in their second seasons still had lower foul drawing rate's than Wade AS A ROOKIE. Carmelo last season hardly beat Wade's foul drawing rate as a rookie (15.2% to 14.6%). So did Wade really start "getting calls" because of "the refs loving him", or "Shaq joining his team", or "because he's a superstar", or was he just always getting them because of how his game is?
     

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