SG Answer?

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  1. J_Ray

    J_Ray JBB JustBBall Member

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    I saw this on another Jazz forum, thought I'd see what you guys think.

    Obviously Francis is being bought out by the Knicks, then he'll be looking for the most money like everyone does. Utah still has their full MLE, and they're looking for a vet for SG spot. Could Utah possibly make a run for Francis? Sloan likes to run 2 PG lineups it seems like and doesn't matter if you can shoot if you play in Utah with the way their offense is. Could Francis be the answer for Utah? He's be a bargain for MLE if he steps his game back up with minutes and shots considering he takes Fisher's shots. Hell, if he was on bench he's be a nice vet to keep the young guy together. If Francis does step his game back up, he could also be the go to guy Utah needs, considering Boozer still isn't there yet.

    What do you guys think?
     
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    I don't like it. Francis is good but he's just more of a scorer. And he's a PG, not a SG... isn't he? Plus he's too small. We need defense more than we need offense. Booze is pretty much there.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't like it. Francis is good but he's just more of a scorer. And he's a PG, not a SG... isn't he? Plus he's too small. We need defense more than we need offense. Booze is pretty much there.</div>

    Francis has athleticism and is 6'3", it'd be an upgrade over Fisher [​IMG] Francis can play SG, and when Boozer gets in early foul trouble, our scoring suffers.
     
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    I still would like a bigger guard. Are the Jazz just against bringing in Corey Maggatte or any SG at all?! I read in the papers that the Jazz are against bringing in anybody at all.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">KS1 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I still would like a bigger guard. Are the Jazz just against bringing in Corey Maggatte or any SG at all?! I read in the papers that the Jazz are against bringing in anybody at all.</div>

    No, they aren't against it, just O'Connor doesn't want to give away anything worth anything, no C.J. Miles, no Giricek, no Jarron Collins, I think the only player he's shopping is Hoffa's expiring contract and picks. No one wants that, so he's trying to sign one instead, so why not pursue Francis? Sloan likes playing small guard lineups down the stretch, in the past he's done McLeod & Palacio, Lopez & Williams, Deron Williams & Fisher, etc. So why not at least get an explosive threat to do it with?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">J_Ray Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No, they aren't against it, just O'Connor doesn't want to give away anything worth anything, no C.J. Miles, no Giricek, no Jarron Collins, I think the only player he's shopping is Hoffa's expiring contract and picks. No one wants that, so he's trying to sign one instead, so why not pursue Francis? Sloan likes playing small guard lineups down the stretch, in the past he's done McLeod & Palacio, Lopez & Williams, Deron Williams & Fisher, etc. So why not at least get an explosive threat to do it with?</div>

    I just really don't know about Francis. I never liked him in the league, not when he was playing with Yao (or not passing to Yao), not when he was in Orlando, and not now on the Knicks either (especially since they do need his leadership and scoring).
    I'm just not big on him as a player, he always seemed like a "wanna be Iverson" to me but without that killer instinct and heart that Iverson has. Maybe it's just me, but I seen him in games just chucking up shots that are no where near the basket. Also, we're shopping for a scorer, a shooter. Francis needs more than 30 minutes a night to be productive, he's not that great of a jump shooter or 3 point shooter. Also this year he's averaging about 1 turnover for every 2 assists, I doubt we need to lost the ball more often. And in terms of defense, he's not that great defensivley, and he's not big enough to bully them around defensively.

    Just my thoughts...Plus, I think he would also be a headache for Jerry Sloan to coach.
     
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    I agree with KS1. Corey Magette seems like a better fit. I like Brewers defense though..... as soon as he becomes a shooting threat....
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">KS1 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I just really don't know about Francis. I never liked him in the league, not when he was playing with Yao (or not passing to Yao), not when he was in Orlando, and not now on the Knicks either (especially since they do need his leadership and scoring).
    I'm just not big on him as a player, he always seemed like a "wanna be Iverson" to me but without that killer instinct and heart that Iverson has. Maybe it's just me, but I seen him in games just chucking up shots that are no where near the basket. Also, we're shopping for a scorer, a shooter. Francis needs more than 30 minutes a night to be productive, he's not that great of a jump shooter or 3 point shooter. Also this year he's averaging about 1 turnover for every 2 assists, I doubt we need to lost the ball more often. And in terms of defense, he's not that great defensivley, and he's not big enough to bully them around defensively.

    Just my thoughts...Plus, I think he would also be a headache for Jerry Sloan to coach.</div>

    Francis has never really had another real scoring threat on his team, remember Yao was still young and wasn't the dominant force he is now. On Orlando, he was with a very young and even more raw Dwight Howard. Then New York he just didn't help them because they're a mess with already a big mess. I just think I'd give Francis a chance, and to say he doesn't have heart means you haven't seen him. He's a very emotional player, and can get the crowd out of their seats. I'd give him a chance, but that could just be me
     
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    I'd like to see the Jazz go after a big guard that they'll play, specifically Maggette. Kevin O'Connor has said he isn't interested in making a move that will help short term but hurt long term, I can't say I really agree with it. The Jazz are built around Williams, Kirilenko, Boozer and Okur. Boozer and Kirilenko are known to have injury troubles and if they were to go down, the Jazz would look like a lottery team. This is the best season Utah has had health wise in a long time, and who knows how many more lottery seasons the Jazz will have to endure before they get another one like it? The ultimate goal is to win a championship, and the Jazz need to act on that now. The Jazz are playing exceptionally well, and have shown that they can compete with the elite. Getting Maggette should make the Jazz stronger still.
     

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