<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I just don't understand this logic How can you contribute if ur not getting any playing time? Why trade a guy that can carry ur offense for stretches, especially with Tmac's back actin up. The reason I get ansy when you talk about Bonzi is because I want to see us win a championship this season. Looking at the Mavericks, Spurs & Suns, I can't began to understand why you'd trade a good post season player for draft picks That's gotta be the most terrible logic I've heard. </div> The point is, either because of injuries or Van Gundy not playing him (please don't bitch about it), Wells is not putting up numbers for this team. Bottomline. There's a possibility that he can, but right now, he's putting up a stat sheet of blanks for the team. A lot of your reasoning has hypotheticals in it. For an example, "Why trade a guy that can carry your offense for stretches, especially with Tmac's back actin up." He hasn't really done that, even when given the minutes. I have yet to see him break out for above fifteen points (which is actually something Howard has done) to help carry the scoring load. Wells has had one good post season in recent memory (last season) and yet he deserves the title of "a good post season player"? At this point, I'm not too certain on the prospects of winning a championship this season. We certainly have the potential to do it, but in my opinion, we'll have an even better chance next season if we play our cards right. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I remember when we traded Rudy Gay for Battier on draft night. I was confused at first, but the Rockets sold us on the fact their tryna to win a ring NOW instead of 2 or 3 years down the line. To say that, and trade away a VERY good player for DRAFT PICKS is a HUGE contradiction! Would San Antonio trade away Ginobli for draft picks? Would Phoenix trade one of their big 3 for draft picks? So why in the HELL would the Rockets do it. Bonzi can play a big role on this team if given the chance. But ur eliminating all that by trading him for a draft pick (who might not even play in JVG's system).</div> To me, "NOW" means one to two years. Besides, it could very well take Gay longer than three years to develop, its really hard to distinguish when young players are going to pan out. So I think it would be a good idea to stop looking back at that trade and figure out who got the short end of it. There's really no point in it. I can't believe you actually have the nerve to compare Bonzi Wells to Manu Ginobili. Its a completely different situation. Ginobili's been with the San Antonio system for years, and is locked up with a long term contract so he won't be able to bolt. Meanwhile, we're almost completely sure that Wells is going to opt out of his contract this season in hopes of making a splash in the free agent market, and he hasn't been getting much burn under Van Gundy. Same goes for the ridiculous Phoenix scenario you mentioned. Again, Wells might not ever play a big role on this team, since he might not ever be given the chance. You never know.
<div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The point is, either because of injuries or Van Gundy not playing him (please don't bitch about it), Wells is not putting up numbers for this team. Bottomline. There's a possibility that he can, but right now, he's putting up a stat sheet of blanks for the team. A lot of your reasoning has hypotheticals in it. For an example, "Why trade a guy that can carry your offense for stretches, especially with Tmac's back actin up." He hasn't really done that, even when given the minutes. I have yet to see him break out for above fifteen points (which is actually something Howard has done) to help carry the scoring load. Wells has had one good post season in recent memory (last season) and yet he deserves the title of "a good post season player"? At this point, I'm not too certain on the prospects of winning a championship this season. We certainly have the potential to do it, but in my opinion, we'll have an even better chance next season if we play our cards right.</div> Wrong......Bonzi played with Portland and actually played good then too. I've alwayz liked his game, especially in the post. He's one of the few players on our current team that have been thru some serious battles in the playoffs. You keep mentioning that he hasn't done anything, but he hasn't played consistent minutes yet. So the fact he hasn't produced is because of his playin time, not because he doesn't fit. The Rockets stated many times in the offseason their tryin to win a ring NOW. Not next season or the season after that. You seem to be the only one thinking about next year....... <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">To me, "NOW" means one to two years. Besides, it could very well take Gay longer than three years to develop, its really hard to distinguish when young players are going to pan out. So I think it would be a good idea to stop looking back at that trade and figure out who got the short end of it. There's really no point in it. I can't believe you actually have the nerve to compare Bonzi Wells to Manu Ginobili. Its a completely different situation. Ginobili's been with the San Antonio system for years, and is locked up with a long term contract so he won't be able to bolt. Meanwhile, we're almost completely sure that Wells is going to opt out of his contract this season in hopes of making a splash in the free agent market, and he hasn't been getting much burn under Van Gundy. Same goes for the ridiculous Phoenix scenario you mentioned. Again, Wells might not ever play a big role on this team, since he might not ever be given the chance. You never know.</div> The point is he SHOULD be given a chance. We're not thinking about next year's draft, we're thinking championship. Trading Bonzi would be a very bad move in my judgement. Bonzi is too valuable for just a draft pick. First off, he can play multiple positions which gives more diversity. Second he can score and play defense. Third he's a legit SG/SF who can play along side Tmac. If Bonzi gets it rollin and teams have to double him, their basically at the Rockets mercy. All of sudden Tmac turns into a spot up shooter and Yao is left on the block with no double team. That's the other teams worst nightmare! Basically he's good enuff to put us over the hump. Since ur not really worried about winning a championship this year, I dont expect you to agree with me. However I'm able to invision how scary the Rockets could be if Bonzi is given a chance to roll.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Wrong......Bonzi played with Portland and actually played good then too. I've alwayz liked his game, especially in the post. He's one of the few players on our current team that have been thru some serious battles in the playoffs. You keep mentioning that he hasn't done anything, but he hasn't played consistent minutes yet. So the fact he hasn't produced is because of his playin time, not because he doesn't fit. The Rockets stated many times in the offseason their tryin to win a ring NOW. Not next season or the season after that. You seem to be the only one thinking about next year....... </div> Portland was about three years ago, and a lot of things can change, and have changed since then. Sure he has playoff experience, but its not like he's gotten anywhere there either. Wells is in the same position as probably the majority of the Rockets who get minutes (Yao, McGrady, Alston, Battier, Howard). Its true he hasn't gotten consistent minutes. But I'm not completely sold that he ever will. Either you ignore my points or are too blind to see them, I've already said it before. Still, I'll say it again for your reading pleasure- Wells might not ever get consistent minutes for this team. I have even yet to see a counterpoint to the fact that Wells is going to opt out after this season. Again, different interpretations of the word "NOW" can be made. So sue me. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The point is he SHOULD be given a chance. We're not thinking about next year's draft, we're thinking championship. Trading Bonzi would be a very bad move in my judgement. Bonzi is too valuable for just a draft pick. First off, he can play multiple positions which gives more diversity. Second he can score and play defense. Third he's a legit SG/SF who can play along side Tmac. If Bonzi gets it rollin and teams have to double him, their basically at the Rockets mercy. All of sudden Tmac turns into a spot up shooter and Yao is left on the block with no double team. That's the other teams worst nightmare! </div> Just because he "SHOULD" be given a chance doesn't mean he will. Neither you or I can change that. And so far, looking at the current trends, he hasn't, due to his early feud with Van Gundy or injuries. 1. Wells can play two positions effectively, so I'm not completely sure where you're trying to go with saying he can play multiple positions. 2. I'm not too sure about scoring effectively. His percentages aren't really that great for the time he's been given. 3. Big "if" right there. Wells hasn't got rolling this season and how do you know that he will? But hypothetically, let's say he does draw double teams. Yao's most likely never going to get single coverage, so you can definitely forget about that. I'm sorry, but teams aren't stupid enough to let the 7-5 guy have single coverage down in the paint. McGrady as a spot up shooter isn't even that dangerous. He's been missing a lot of his jumpers this season, and he's actually truely effective when he's driving into the paint. Only on some ocassions has he been completely hot with the jumper. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Basically he's good enuff to put us over the hump. Since ur not really worried about winning a championship this year, I dont expect you to agree with me. However I'm able to invision how scary the Rockets could be if Bonzi is given a chance to roll.</div> Okay. And are you positive Bonzi's going to be given "a chance to roll"?
<div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Portland was about three years ago, and a lot of things can change, and have changed since then. Sure he has playoff experience, but its not like he's gotten anywhere there either. Wells is in the same position as probably the majority of the Rockets who get minutes (Yao, McGrady, Alston, Battier, Howard). Its true he hasn't gotten consistent minutes. But I'm not completely sold that he ever will. Either you ignore my points or are too blind to see them, I've already said it before. Still, I'll say it again for your reading pleasure- Wells might not ever get consistent minutes for this team. I have even yet to see a counterpoint to the fact that Wells is going to opt out after this season. Again, different interpretations of the word "NOW" can be made. So sue me.</div> Well first you said "Bonzi had only one good playoff series" so i guess ur backtrackin from that inaccurate statement. Those Portland teams were very good and played in some real "grind it out" playoff series (in which Bonzi played great!). That might not be anything special too you, but it's the WORLD a difference on a team like the Rockets. You keep making the vague statement that "he might not get playin time" and expect me to come back with some intellectual response My only rebuttal to that is he SHOULD get playin time, being that we both don't know if he will. We knew that Bonzi would opt out when we signed him, so I don't see ur point. He's still a very solid player and could actually help us win a championship. Knowing that, why trade him? That's like tanking in the middle of a great season just so you can start over next season <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Just because he "SHOULD" be given a chance doesn't mean he will. Neither you or I can change that. And so far, looking at the current trends, he hasn't, due to his early feud with Van Gundy or injuries.</div> Those are temporary things that can be worked out. If the Rockets wanna chance at a ring, Bonzi NEEDS to be a contributor. If not, we have ZERO chance against Dallas, San Antonio or Dallas. Stop tryna sound extra smart, I think I know what "SHOULD" means. Thank you <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">1. Wells can play two positions effectively, so I'm not completely sure where you're trying to go with saying he can play multiple positions.</div> 1)SG 2)SF 3)PF (if we go small) <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">2. I'm not too sure about scoring effectively. His percentages aren't really that great for the time he's been given.</div> But we've already established that he isn't gettin "consistent" minutes. I could repeat myself, but we're just gonna be going in circles again. Coming from a guy who vouched for David Wesley, it's hard to understand why you can't do the same for a MUCH better player in Bonzi. <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">3. Big "if" right there. Wells hasn't got rolling this season and how do you know that he will?</div> I'm willing to bet ANYTHING that given the minutes, Bonzi WILL produce!! If you wanna challenge me on this (which you won't) feel free. I say 20mins plus and he'll put up atleast 12pts and 7rebs. Knowing my history, you might be wanna think long & hard about this. WARNING: YOU WILL NOT WIN AGAINST ROCK4LIFE <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> But hypothetically, let's say he does draw double teams. Yao's most likely never going to get single coverage, so you can definitely forget about that. I'm sorry, but teams aren't stupid enough to let the 7-5 guy have single coverage down in the paint. McGrady as a spot up shooter isn't even that dangerous. He's been missing a lot of his jumpers this season, and he's actually truely effective when he's driving into the paint. Only on some ocassions has he been completely hot with the jumper. </div> Dude, ur best bet is just leave this alone. All ur gonna do is end up backtracking on ur statements. Mcgrady as a spot shooter is the other teams worst nightmare. If Bonzi gets double teamed and the ball moves fast enuff, there is almost no way they can hurry and double Yao or Tmac on the weakside (Defense scrambling). 95% of Tmac's shots are with somebody in his face, just imagine is his looks were open. <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Okay. And are you positive Bonzi's going to be given "a chance to roll"?</div> I've never said I was "positive" he was gonna get minutes. Why do you keep asking me that?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well first you said "Bonzi had only one good playoff series" so i guess ur backtrackin from that inaccurate statement. Those Portland teams were very good and played in some real "grind it out" playoff series (in which Bonzi played great!). That might not be anything special too you, but it's the WORLD a difference on a team like the Rockets. You keep making the vague statement that "he might not get playin time" and expect me to come back with some intellectual response My only rebuttal to that is he SHOULD get playin time, being that we both don't know if he will. We knew that Bonzi would opt out when we signed him, so I don't see ur point. He's still a very solid player and could actually help us win a championship. Knowing that, why trade him? That's like tanking in the middle of a great season just so you can start over next season</div> I said "in recent memory". Which is true actually, considering that Portland was three years ago. Looking at current trends, he doesn't look like he will get substantial playing time. By the way, in what context of "SHOULD" are you referring to? That his skill set vouches for him to receive playing time, or that he will be getting playing time? Very ambiguous term with what we're discussing. In my opinion, I think you're banking way too much on winning a championship this season. At this point, I certainly think we have a chance, but just not as much compared to teams like the Spurs, Suns, Mavericks, or Pistons. So say we don't get a championship this season, and Bonzi Wells opts out. Well then, we're pretty much back at square one aren't we? However, we if cash in for a draft pick in that scenario, at least we get a first rounder out of the deal. By the way, you have very bad analogies. They're pretty irrelevant usually to what you talk about. Take the one you just made for an example, Wells hasn't even gotten enough minutes to be considering a significant part of this team, yet if we trade him, we suddenly tank the season? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Those are temporary things that can be worked out. If the Rockets wanna chance at a ring, Bonzi NEEDS to be a contributor. If not, we have ZERO chance against Dallas, San Antonio or Dallas. Stop tryna sound extra smart, I think I know what "SHOULD" means. Thank you</div> But neither of us know that they will be. Again, take a look at the current trends and its mostly in my favor that he won't. Really? You know what "SHOULD" means? Surprising. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">1)SG 2)SF 3)PF (if we go small) </div> He doesn't play the powerforward spot effectively. If we go small like you said, and try to run the ball more, Yao will be left behind. Not a direction the team wants to go in. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">But we've already established that he isn't gettin "consistent" minutes. I could repeat myself, but we're just gonna be going in circles again. Coming from a guy who vouched for David Wesley, it's hard to understand why you can't do the same for a MUCH better player in Bonzi.</div> From what I heard from you, less shots should equal higher percentages. You still don't understand why I supported David Wesley? Go back and read it up. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm willing to bet ANYTHING that given the minutes, Bonzi WILL produce!! If you wanna challenge me on this (which you won't) feel free. I say 20mins plus and he'll put up atleast 12pts and 7rebs. Knowing my history, you might be wanna think long & hard about this. WARNING: YOU WILL NOT WIN AGAINST ROCK4LIFE </div> He could very well be throwing up bricks, but taking enough shots to get 12 points. Thats pretty detrimental to the team, and your way of gauging stats isn't measuring effectiveness at all. The point that you keep missing, is that Wells may not be given the minutes. So its kind of stupid for us to bet on something that neither of us know the limiting factor in. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Dude, ur best bet is just leave this alone. All ur gonna do is end up backtracking on ur statements. Mcgrady as a spot shooter is the other teams worst nightmare. If Bonzi gets double teamed and the ball moves fast enuff, there is almost no way they can hurry and double Yao or Tmac on the weakside (Defense scrambling). 95% of Tmac's shots are with somebody in his face, just imagine is his looks were open.</div> Hypotheticals.... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> I've never said I was "positive" he was gonna get minutes. Why do you keep asking me that?</div> Because he might not ever get the minutes that he needs to produce. With repetition, even monkey's can learn things.
I'm getting sick of this. Bonzi should be getting 25-30mpg every night. Why the hell isn't he playing? Am I supposed to believe that it's because of his sore back? If the reason Bonzi isn't playing is because of JVG, then Les should be all over his ass. Unless there's something I don't know about. Like a T-Mac injury clause in Bonzi's contract or something. -end rant
Wait a minute here, why is it that we're presuming that JVG isn't playing Wells? It was established before that Wells was injured, which would also mean he wasn't fit to play. Now, has there been something to affirm that Wells is now completely healthy and JVG's the only reason he's not playing? Most of the time, whenever something bad happens, Rock4life tends to blame it on JVG.
It's pretty much Wells for a 1st rounder. Davis is salary filler and a veteran off the bench. I'd pull this trade and hope to get lucky in the draft.
Why would Detroit trade Dale Davis's expiry contract for a cancer in Bonzi Wells? This would be a great deal for Houston to get rid of Bonzi's contract.
<div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why would Detroit trade Dale Davis's expiry contract for a cancer in Bonzi Wells? This would be a great deal for Houston to get rid of Bonzi's contract.</div> Hahahaa. Cancer? He is a legit 3rd scorer. He just needs to get used to the JVG system, but it seems like he is being lazy and saving himself for later this season + playoffs.
I still like Bonzi on this team but lets look at his track record since he's been a Rocket. Came into the season off an injury. Practiced sparingly Schedules dental appointments causing him to miss preseason games Is very out of shape, even for Bonzi who plays big Not a step, but 5 steps slow Back aches sit him out for nearly 2 weeks Now his conditioning is probably back at square 1 Chemistry only comes from being on the court with your teamates He has to want to perform well in a possible contract year. He's a smart player that understands space and movement. Since he's not been consistently on the court yes every good thing that comes to mind is all hypothetical but based on the past, but his contract is worth taking that chance He had a valuable game showing he can still eat up San Antonio Thats the only reason I would keep him I don't think Giving up Bonzi for Davis will significantly help the Rockets beat the Spurs, Mavs, Suns
<div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I said "in recent memory". Which is true actually, considering that Portland was three years ago. Looking at current trends, he doesn't look like he will get substantial playing time. By the way, in what context of "SHOULD" are you referring to? That his skill set vouches for him to receive playing time, or that he will be getting playing time? Very ambiguous term with what we're discussing. In my opinion, I think you're banking way too much on winning a championship this season. At this point, I certainly think we have a chance, but just not as much compared to teams like the Spurs, Suns, Mavericks, or Pistons. So say we don't get a championship this season, and Bonzi Wells opts out. Well then, we're pretty much back at square one aren't we? However, we if cash in for a draft pick in that scenario, at least we get a first rounder out of the deal. By the way, you have very bad analogies. They're pretty irrelevant usually to what you talk about. Take the one you just made for an example, Wells hasn't even gotten enough minutes to be considering a significant part of this team, yet if we trade him, we suddenly tank the season?</div> What do you mean "it doesn't look like he'll get substanstial playin time"? Why? He's a differencemaker on this team. All the drama between him and JVG has been put behind them. Ur the only one that keeps dwelling on that. If we get healthy, why couldn't we beat Dallas, San Antonio, or Phoenix? We've already beat San Antonio (in San Antonio) and spanked Dallas earlier. Not including wins in Miami (with Shaq) and in Chicago. The Rockets have a legit chance at being the best team in the league. This year might be the best chance to win a title. At this point, trading for draft picks is the WORST idiotic thing we could do. This is team is the deepest team we've had in almost 10years. Why mess that up? <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">But neither of us know that they will be. Again, take a look at the current trends and its mostly in my favor that he won't. Really? You know what "SHOULD" means? Surprising.</div> Nothin is in ur favor. And I will bet you that Bonzi will contribute mightily this season. You've thrown the towel in WAAAY to fast on Bonzi. He's too talented of a player to just let sit. There is no reason outside of JVG's ego that Bonzi shouldn't be playin. If JVG is smart, he'll start givin Bonzi his minutes when healthy. <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He doesn't play the powerforward spot effectively. If we go small like you said, and try to run the ball more, Yao will be left behind. Not a direction the team wants to go in.</div> You don't know if he can't play the PF effectivley, ur ASSuming he can't. But that's beside the point. The point is he CAN play PF if need be, giving him 3 positions he can play (I'd a thought you knew that already). Bill Worrell mentioned it in the game, and I've seen him play PF with Memphis. Seems you didn't do ur homework <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">From what I heard from you, less shots should equal higher percentages. You still don't understand why I supported David Wesley? Go back and read it up.</div> David Wesley was too old & too undersized to be effective on this team. He let Stackhouse torch him and he was too damn streaky from the 3pt line. Not to mention he was slow and couldn't finish on the break. Other teams just sent their bigger guards down low to post him up. He's the reason why we've been tryin to get bigger for years now. You foolishly supported him, but are SOOO quick to write off Bonzi. Baffles me <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He could very well be throwing up bricks, but taking enough shots to get 12 points. Thats pretty detrimental to the team, and your way of gauging stats isn't measuring effectiveness at all. The point that you keep missing, is that Wells may not be given the minutes. So its kind of stupid for us to bet on something that neither of us know the limiting factor in.</div> My question to you is why isn't he gonna get the minutes? He's no longer injured and him and JVG don't have any beefs anymore. He's liable to have a few bad games, but one thing ur not equating is his ability to get to the free throw line. That aspect could be HUGE down the stretch of games. It's not stupid to bet on Bonzi. That's somethin YOU put in ur head. I'm willing to bet Bonzi will contribute. All ur gonna do is make excuses when i'm proven right. <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Hypotheticals.... Because he might not ever get the minutes that he needs to produce. With repetition, even monkey's can learn things.</div> That should apply to you too......
Whoa.. quite a drama in here. Neway, I am not sure if I'm following you guys right, but in Bonzi's profile in NBA.com, it shows that he play 20+ mpg. Why are you guys keep saying he doesn't get enough minutes? <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">My question to you is why isn't he gonna get the minutes? He's no longer injured and him and JVG don't have any beefs anymore. </div> Anyway, since Rofk4life ask this question, I'll answer it (I know it from somebody else... ) <div class="quote_poster">Swish Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Bonzi Wells went through Monday's limited Rockets practice, his first since going out with a sore lower back Dec. 29, with no difficulties..."</div> Source. Wells is injured for a while. He just went through his FIRST limited practice YESTERDAY. He is getting minutes before he went injured. So, I'm not sure when you said that "he's not getting minutes and no longer injured". He was injured and can't get minutes, but he got playing times before he went injured. LOL. So stop blaming JVG. Aside from that, I agree with you that we shouldn't trade Bonzi.
<div class="quote_poster">squall15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wells is injured for a while. He just went through his FIRST limited practice YESTERDAY. He is getting minutes before he went injured. So, I'm not sure when you said that "he's not getting minutes and no longer injured". He was injured and can't get minutes, but he got playing times before he went injured. LOL. So stop blaming JVG. Aside from that, I agree with you that we shouldn't trade Bonzi.</div> You got in the debate late, so ur a little off. Aznxballer says he's not sure if Bonzi will get minutes (when healthy) and I don't see a reason why he won't. He should get minutes if the coach has a brain. Right now is the time we should gettin ready for the playoffs.
<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You got in the debate late, so ur a little off. Aznxballer says he's not sure if Bonzi will get minutes (when healthy) and I don't see a reason why he won't. He should get minutes if the coach has a brain. Right now is the time we should gettin ready for the playoffs.</div> He was getting minutes before he got injured. You guys were debating for nothing i guess. lol
<div class="quote_poster">squall15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He was getting minutes before he got injured. You guys were debating for nothing i guess. lol</div> Not really....He was playin sparingly. He shouldn't be traded, BOTTOMLINE. If he is however, we should get a difference maker in return.
<div class="quote_poster">igotask8board Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm getting sick of this. Bonzi should be getting 25-30mpg every night. Why the hell isn't he playing? Am I supposed to believe that it's because of his sore back? If the reason Bonzi isn't playing is because of JVG, then Les should be all over his ass. Unless there's something I don't know about. Like a T-Mac injury clause in Bonzi's contract or something. -end rant</div> Agreed.
<div class="quote_poster">igotask8board Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm getting sick of this. Bonzi should be getting 25-30mpg every night. Why the hell isn't he playing? Am I supposed to believe that it's because of his sore back? If the reason Bonzi isn't playing is because of JVG, then Les should be all over his ass. Unless there's something I don't know about. Like a T-Mac injury clause in Bonzi's contract or something. -end rant</div> hmmmmm
