<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">These "problems" only really occur in NSW and Victoria though (predominant areas of people of Middle Eastern and Western European decent), I've never had any problems up here in Queensland, and I'm pretty sure its the same elsewhere in Australia.</div> thats because there is so many nationalities living here in melbourne, especially lebanese,greek and italian. alot of these young ethnic people are just too proud of there nationality, and considering the extremely violent history of their countries, they beleive they need to continue that pride and anger here against the other ethnic groups
<div class="quote_poster">AKIRA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">thats because there is so many nationalities living here in melbourne, especially lebanese,greek and italian. alot of these young ethnic people are just too proud of there nationality, and considering the extremely violent history of their countries, they beleive they need to continue that pride and anger here against the other ethnic groups</div> Thats exactly right. It's just what they know / have been brought up around.
Forgive me for not realising that they were born without a brain; maturity and common sense. And that is a piss poor excuse regardless.
Correct me if I'm completely off-base here, but I'm not really sure why people are blaming these problems on nationalities/ethnic groups. To me, these problems (gang activity, crime, violence, harrassment, etc.) are more the effects of poverty than any specific nationality. Targeting people of a certain origin (as the riots did) kind of avoids the actual issue. Again, I could be completely wrong here, so correct me if I am.
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Correct me if I'm completely off-base here, but I'm not really sure why people are blaming these problems on nationalities/ethnic groups. To me, these problems (gang activity, crime, violence, harrassment, etc.) are more the effects of poverty than any specific nationality. Targeting people of a certain origin (as the riots did) kind of avoids the actual issue. Again, I could be completely wrong here, so correct me if I am.</div> They're not poor, most of them drive around in high powered sports cars, and come from rich families, they're just extremely aggressive and arrogant people.
Ok, so that's not true. I was trying to make a parallell between Australia and England, but I guess it didn't work. However, maybe they act out because Australian immigration policies isolate them from mainstream culture (I think I've heard that before)? I know it sounds like I'm making excuses, but mainly it's just that I refuse to accept that people act up, because "they're just naturally like that." Usually there's another side to the story that, while not completely excusing their behaviour, gives a more balanced perspective.
Well its not naturally like them. You get good and bad in all races. Just there is tension between some races - like Serbs and Croats - and it is the idiots who cause these things to escalate. But then there are just some idiots, the 2002 Soccer World Cup, when Italy were knocked out the idiotic Italian fans ran out on Lygon St and destroyed stuff.
