<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">TORONTO - Avery Johnson could only turn back to the bench, arms in the air and exclaim, "What was that? Oh, my!" It was all the Mavericks coach could do not to get a technical. His frustration had to do with Dirk Nowitzki not getting a foul call after a strong drive and dunk over Raptors rookie Andrea Bargnani with 1:54 left in Sunday afternoon's 97-96 win over Toronto at Air Canada Centre. "I thought it was an 'and one,' said Nowitzki, who averaged 40.5 points on the two-game road trip. "But they probably thought I was complaining too much." Nowitzki had gotten a technical less than a minute earlier for protesting an offensive foul. Johnson can't help but wonder if Nowitzki receives enough credit for his willingness to get physical inside. "With the pounding he takes, in comparison to some of the other MVP or superstar players, he still doesn't get [to the line] enough," Johnson said. "He goes to the basket just as strong as anybody, but he doesn't get [to the line] enough. But that has more to do with perception." Heading into Sunday, Nowitzki was 11th in the league with eight free-throw attempts per game and is eighth with 7.2 free throws made. He was 7-for-9 at the line against Toronto and finished with 38 points. At this point in his career, one would think Nowitzki has earned his share of respect from officials and opponents. "If he's not a highly respected player, then it's personal," Johnson said. "You're not really watching the games."</div> Source
Well, imo he IS complaining too much. But he played a great game against Bargnagni today. He didn't hit the game-winner, but clutch shots can be dropped even then, when there are 1-3 minutes left on the clock.
Nowitzki is the best player in the nba nd I agree he inst fully respected he wants to play aphysical game, the way it should b played.
<div class="quote_poster">DSaunders91 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nowitzki is the best player in the nba nd I agree he inst fully respected he wants to play aphysical game, the way it should b played.</div> Dirk is top 5, but his overall game isn't as good as Kobe, Wade, or Lebron.........and Dirk gets plenty of calls, Avery needs to find something else to complain about.....
Nowitzki overall game may not b as good but u cant argue with sum1 at 7ft with an amazin fade away and 3pt shot.
<div class="quote_poster">DSaunders91 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nowitzki is the best player in the nba nd I agree he inst fully respected he wants to play aphysical game, the way it should b played.</div> Huh? Are you serious? Better than Kobe, Wade or Garnett? Dirk's a good player but at times the best player on the Mavs is Josh Howard. After all, Howard carried you guys in the finals.
<div class="quote_poster">DSaunders91 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nowitzki is the best player in the nba nd I agree he inst fully respected he wants to play aphysical game, the way it should b played.</div> Best player in the nba? I don't think so.
Well Dirk is the MVP at the moment (imo) so he doesn't get enough respect. I think people were ready to anoint him last year though, but the Mavs stopped short of their goal.
I'd be pissed off if Dirk gets the MVP this season. He's a major liability on defense gets Howard and Dampier into foul trouble because of his inability to cover his man. Luckily his efficiency on offense this year is masking his defensive weakness and making him project him as an MVP candidate. The Mavs success this year is mainly due to 1. Avery Johnson 2. Josh Howard 3. Deep bench 4. Dirk in that order..Dirk's not the main reason for the success. Heck, none of the Mavs crowd that go to the game even chant his name for MVP. Mavs would be way better with KG or Duncan instead of Dirk.
<div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> Heck, none of the Mavs crowd that go to the game even chant his name for MVP. Mavs would be way better with KG or Duncan instead of Dirk.</div> I've heard otherwise and can tell you from going to a game myself.... you always sound like you're being sarcastic though.
<div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'd be pissed off if Dirk gets the MVP this season. He's a major liability on defense gets Howard and Dampier into foul trouble because of his inability to cover his man. Luckily his efficiency on offense this year is masking his defensive weakness and making him project him as an MVP candidate. The Mavs success this year is mainly due to 1. Avery Johnson 2. Josh Howard 3. Deep bench 4. Dirk in that order..Dirk's not the main reason for the success. Heck, none of the Mavs crowd that go to the game even chant his name for MVP. Mavs would be way better with KG or Duncan instead of Dirk.</div> Well judging from the on/off court production, I recall that Dirk's defense is underrated according to some "statistical" articles I've read. The Mavs are -4.6 with Dirk off the court (with a net of +16.2, which is better than Wade), compared to +3.8 when Howard is off the court. You can't be serious with your rant. Dirk is the mvp, his Net production is +18.5 which is ridiculous. He's easily better than Josh Howard; all around players like Howard and Odom are deceiving and get hyped up a bit. http://www.82games.com/0607/0607DAL.HTM
You know, everyone says Dirk is a good 3-Point shooter.. Honestly.. NO he's not.. I've barely ever seen Dirk attempt a 3 over someone.. Its always an open 3... And STILL he is 44% or whatever the hell it is.. But he's not included and shouldnt be included in the top 3-point shooters in the game today.. Most of the shooters who shoot 3's are guarded and that is why they all have lower percentages than Dirk..
<div class="quote_poster">tracymcgrady_01 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You know, everyone says Dirk is a good 3-Point shooter.. Honestly.. NO he's not.. I've barely ever seen Dirk attempt a 3 over someone.. Its always an open 3... And STILL he is 44% or whatever the hell it is.. But he's not included and shouldnt be included in the top 3-point shooters in the game today.. Most of the shooters who shoot 3's are guarded and that is why they all have lower percentages than Dirk..</div> That's just funny...
The MVP for this season for me personally is directly between Dirk and Steve (Nash). Dirk is earning his respect, but obviously he doesn't get enough for what he does for this Mavericks franchise. Right now I couldn't decide who is the MVP between the two players, but when we near the end of the season we'll probably know then. You can't deny Nash despite him winning it twice in a row now. When he came back that last game he had a limited role from what he's used to playing and still managed to put out a double-double and basically create the most important offensive plays that gave Phoenix the win. Both players have been consistent and it will be exciting to see who wins the MVP award at the end of the season. Personally, if it is either Dirk or Steve that gets it I won't be disapointed.
<div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> The Mavs success this year is mainly due to 1. Avery Johnson 2. Josh Howard 3. Deep bench 4. Dirk </div> I don't think there's a single person involved in the Mavs organization (or the NBA, for that matter) who'd agree with you. The Mavs offense turns to poo when Nowitzki is off the court. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting tracymcgrady_01:</div><div class="quote_post">You know, everyone says Dirk is a good 3-Point shooter.. Honestly.. NO he's not.. I've barely ever seen Dirk attempt a 3 over someone.. Its always an open 3... And STILL he is 44% or whatever the hell it is.. But he's not included and shouldnt be included in the top 3-point shooters in the game today.. Most of the shooters who shoot 3's are guarded and that is why they all have lower percentages than Dirk..</div> He won the 3-point shoot out last year, and he was runner up this year. He's a good 3-point shooter. Not prolific perhaps, but he's very good. And for a 7-footer, he's the best ever.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Nowitzki is the best player in the nba nd I agree he inst fully respected he wants to play aphysical game, the way it should b played.</div> dirk better than kobe?
<div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'd be pissed off if Dirk gets the MVP this season. He's a major liability on defense gets Howard and Dampier into foul trouble because of his inability to cover his man</div> As a Mavs fan I doubt you'd be mad at all to me the MVP is about wins not defense (otherwise Artest, Dwight Howard, and Camby would be in MVP talks) and the way I see it, Dirk wins games. Everything I wanted to say about his 3P game has been said, you can't make excuses for 42%, even wide open I doubt most forwards would hit 42% from 3 point range. Best Player? I dunno, too difficult to compare various positions and playing styles, but he should be in the discussion. As for the "respect" issue, I don't think any player gets the "respect" that players like Jordan used to get in the past, maybe the refs finally realized giving the great players even more advantages is unfair. The refs slow games down, makes it boring, I'd rather see a game won by the players not determined by the refs, any time I go out and play ball with some guys, we don't get the luxury of refs & ticky-tack fouls. So as long as the refs are fair (gives both teams equal no-calls) I have no problem with the stars not getting preferential treatment.
If MVP was about defense, Steve Nash would not have won it the past 2 years... in my opinion Dirk should win MVP no question.
<div class="quote_poster">tracymcgrady_01 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You know, everyone says Dirk is a good 3-Point shooter.. Honestly.. NO he's not.. I've barely ever seen Dirk attempt a 3 over someone.. Its always an open 3... And STILL he is 44% or whatever the hell it is.. But he's not included and shouldnt be included in the top 3-point shooters in the game today.. Most of the shooters who shoot 3's are guarded and that is why they all have lower percentages than Dirk..</div> Uh i have news for you, most 3's are open, otherwise they are very bad shots. Oh that's right, I forgot Kapono commands triple teams. Dirk (7')shoots the 3 like Iverson (6') shoots the 2. nuff said.
