ALERT! Warriors vs. Clippers 1:00 PM 1/15/07 FSN

Didn't even know the game was a day game. It's on in 30 minutes, if anyone is near a TV lol.

 

Wow, a lot of people stepped up and played well today. Murphy looked strong in the post to start the game and really played well. I was very impressed. Hopefully he can keep doing more of the same now until the end of the season. Ike Diogu played well and looked like a basketball player today. He moved well without the ball and he didn't seem to be too much of a liability on defense besides giving up a couple of buckets from Elton Brand. Mike Dunleavy was good today. He played great defense in forcing turnovers by picking up 3 steals and a block. Dunleavy rebounded extremely well to go along with some impressive shooting in the first half. Monta Ellis was the strong player in the first act of the game, though he slipped some later, such as in the third period. Baron Davis was key and the boss like normal. He didn't score efficiently from the field, but he got to the line, made some great dishes for his teammates, and ran the offense through most of it. The big difference in the game was the defense. The Warriors were big on the deflections a stat that the coaching staff keeps which turned into many steals. Monta, Baron, Barnes, and Dunleavy all had 3 steals, and Ike had one. The big presence of Andris Biedrins was HUGE today as well. He rejected 3 shots and slowed down Brand some so Dunleavy could get his block. Free throws were HORRIBLE in the first half. The Warriors were 5-15 or so in the first half from the free throw line. Baron as the big factor in turning the percentage around by going 10-11 or 11-12 actually. I was surprised looking at the box score seeing that the Warriors actually shot 67% from the FT line, I thought they would had been lucky to have shot much more than 50 or 55%.

After watching this game a Dunleavy for Maggette deal may seem more even. However it is easy to see that Maggette is atrocious on defense, mostly because of effort and awareness and focus. But you do have to love his energy, athleticism, and scoring. I was trying to see who was Maggette was guarding later in the game, because I was thinking any matchup with Maggette on the defensive end for the Warriors could be an advantage for the Warriors. I think he was guarding Matt Barnes or Dunleavy, otherwise he seemed lost and also the Warriors were starting to push ahead reguardless so that idea went for nothing.

It was a good win for the Warriors. Hopefully Murphy and Dunleavy can keep it up. This is not only for hope but it is a necessity.

 

Yeah, Murph and Dunleavy looked great today. That was refreshing.

And while I'd still love to trade Dunleavy, man Maggette just looks awful. I mean, he's strong and high energy, and good rebounder, but he's a black hole on offense -- even Sam Cassell blatantly refused to pass to him wide-open -- and his defense.... ugh!

 

I think Dunleavy and Murphy stepped up big time in response to Nellie calling them out. Props to them for finally manning up. Especially Murphy! Monta was awesome in the first half. Speaking of Maggette, he had 1 REALLY nice block on somebody stopping a big fast break basket for the Warriors. I would trade Dunleavy for him in a heartbeat. I am glad I stayed home to watch this game. After watching the last few games and hearing Baron saying how he was going to turn things around I thought this game was key whether it was just hot air from Baron or true leadership. I think he answered that question. The ball still seems pretty slippery for both teams today. Oh well. Warriors got a day game win against a western conf team. Lets hope we play them as well in LA just to see if this was a fluke or not and get back to .500...

 

I wish I could have seen this game. What's up with showing it during working hours? This ain't baseball here!

 

<div class="quote_poster">Warriorfansnc93 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Speaking of Maggette, he had 1 REALLY nice block on somebody stopping a big fast break basket for the Warriors. I would trade Dunleavy for him in a heartbeat. I am glad I stayed home to watch this game.</div>

Do you mean Quintin Ross' block of Baron Davis' fast-break dunk? Because I don't remember Mags blocking any fast break attempt...?


<div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Only got to see the first half but it seemed like the only reason it was close was because the W's couldn't hit FTs at all. Its quite amazing that they got the team FT% up to 67% and I'm guessing that was the difference in the second half. </div>

OMG the Warriors must be setting a record for worst FT% team in the history of sports.

Baron Davis was 11/12 -- everyone else sucked.

 

Alley,

Maggette did have a block, i think it was AZ that got swatted coming up the right side of the lane.

And i completely agree with you. If this was a showcase got both Dun and MAggette you would see a guy with good numbers that wasnt really hustling or playing within a team concept almost free lancing his way while dunleavy seemed to be everywhere, defensively getting deflections and steals, actually playing decent D, hitting his outside J as well as cutting and finishing in traffic, actually playing aggressive. STacking the numbers up they were pretty even, but on court attitude i give at least for this game to Dun.

My issue with getting Magette has more to do with this fragile nature. The guy, i feel, doesnt have that burning desire that someone like J-rich possesses or a passion to play with or through pain. In some respects i think of him as what i saw of Baron prior to this season. A guy with tons of talent, often injured, and at least from the outside seemed like a "Me" type player.

MAybe MAggette playing under Nelson would fire the guy up as it has Baron....

I believe a singleton/maggette for zarko/dunleavy deal works under the cap rules. Maybe a change of scenery would do both players good.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives...jr_acquisition/

the article above continues stirring the waters of a possible swap.

 

<div class="quote_poster">AlleyOop Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Do you mean Quintin Ross' block of Baron Davis' fast-break dunk? Because I don't remember Mags blocking any fast break attempt...?




OMG the Warriors must be setting a record for worst FT% team in the history of sports.

Baron Davis was 11/12 -- everyone else sucked.</div>

I remember Maggette getting that block shot as well. I think it was against Azubuike, but right now I can't remember for sure if that was the player. But it was a fast break opportunity. Quintin Ross played very good defense today though. The Clippers did a great job against Baron and Monta in the third period. But yeah, according to the box score Maggette had two blocks in the game. The one I remember and was recalling impressed Barnett, which may help to remember that play if you watched it on TV.

I still think Maggette would help this team. If Dunleavy continues to play this well, which I think is unlikely, especially defensively and on the boards, then maybe we shouldn't do that deal. Somehow if Don Nelson could get Maggette to focus on defense then I wouldn't mind doing a Dun for Maggette deal. Right now though, the team's focus should be to build off today's win.

 

Okay -- I must've missed that block. Overall, though, Maggette didn't seem very interested in playing defense or hustling.

I've always thought that trade is a no-brainer for the Warriors, but now I question it a bit. The Warriors need a high-energy, hard-nosed rebounding player who can finish. Maggette does that. However, he seems to want the ball in his hands a lot. I'd rather have a guy who can play without the ball and catch easy dishes from Baron, rather than a guy who wants to pound it for 24 seconds (we already have a few of those!)

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Alleyoop:</div><div class="quote_post">Do you mean Quintin Ross' block of Baron Davis' fast-break dunk? Because I don't remember Mags blocking any fast break attempt...?</div>
I think the block on Davis was by Daniel Ewing. That surprised me because I was sure Davis had an easy break away.

I think Mags blocked two shots on fast breaks. And maybe altered another one. One was against Monta and the other was Dunleavy. Not sure about the other. EDIT: yeah you guys are right, it was AZ, not Monta as I said.

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Dunleavy played alright. Much better than the last couple of games. Even when he makes his shot, he does not give me confidence that he will make them.

Murphy played his best in a long time. His FT shooting and general outside shot is still looking horrendous. It was nice to see him post up and attack the basket. He didn't look great doing it but he made the shots.

 

<div class="quote_poster">boogielew Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Alley,

Maggette did have a block, i think it was AZ that got swatted coming up the right side of the lane.

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Yup...

 

There were some negatives....the FT shooting notably...yet the overall team...TEAM effort,awareness,hustle,and D,were quite good. Nellie was quick thinking and didn't stubbornly go gimmick. Murphy and Dunleavy responded well to recent issues...as did Monta. A good game,a win in spite of being short staffed.

 

Anyone watch Inside NBA on Tnt? They showed the warriors vs. clippers and magic johnson flat out said that Maggette for Dunleavy straight up!

 

<div class="quote_poster">iLL PiLL Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Anyone watch Inside NBA on Tnt? They showed the warriors vs. clippers and magic johnson flat out said that Maggette for Dunleavy straight up!</div>Wow, what did he say about it? That it's a good idea or a bad one? That it was likely or was he predicting it would happen?

 

Right now I would crave Mags for Dunleavy, but then later on I'd probably get on Mags for being a "Murphy" or Pietrus-like player. You know, the kind of stuff that Dunleavy Sr. doesn't like about him, or the stuff that Nelson doesn't like or doesn't want the player to go beyond limited capabilities.

Plus, Mags is injured a lot...

 

<div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Right now I would crave Mags for Dunleavy, but then later on I'd probably get on Mags for being a "Murphy" or Pietrus-like player. You know, the kind of stuff that Dunleavy Sr. doesn't like about him, or the stuff that Nelson doesn't like or doesn't want the player to go beyond limited capabilities.

Plus, Mags is injured a lot...</div>

Despite both their problems, I'd rather be complaining about Maggette than complaining about Dunleavy. I hope Dun gets traded soon, his sickening inconsistency, soft as pudding offense/defense, and contract make me want to puke.

 

I wish I saw this thread earlier. Not sure if there is going to be a thread every game day.

We should get Corey Maggette. Sure he pounds the ball too much right now, but under proper coaching he should excel. By that I think he could develop into a go to guy. He's the anti-Dunleavy in my book. What I mean is he does the things that Dun is unable or unwilling to do, like take it to the rack and make shots from outside (albeit he needs to be a better 3-pt shooter). He can get inside and get rebounds and of course he's more athletic.

On defense, I have to agree with you. He needs work, but I think if he applies himself, then he can get the job done. A change of scenery would do him and Dunleavy good.

Not to belittle the Warriors efforts today, but Murphy and Dunleavy and the rest of team did step up today. We had to win in order to keep pace with Minnesota who also won against the Pistons in Detroit.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah I saw that, they literally didn't say a word about the Warriors, the whole thing was about why the Clippers were struggling. Nothing about Monta or AB even though they had plenty of highlights, or Baron even though hes having a great season. At the end of the highlight Magic threw in "Dunleavy Jr. for Maggette could be a possible trade." That was all he said about it.</div>

That's a joke, haha. Well Charles isn't going to talk about the Warriors. Magic is LA all the way. Kenny could have said something but it would have gone dead as Ernie just goes along with the others and probably wouldn't add anything interesting. But yeah, I suppose I am not surprised. This is probably why we are so tight on this board because there is no other forum on television such as ESPN or TNT where the Warriors would ever be mentioned or discussed (example JRich being excluded from the top 20 dunkers by ESPN Classic, along with the highly underrated and never mentioned 1975 Warriors championship squad).