just wondering who you guys think is the top rookie at this point in the season, my favourite is morrison but i dont think he is the best of them all
Honestly, this rookie class sucks so much. There isn't really a player that has been impressive, especially compared to other classes. Roy is probably the only decent player chosen in the lottery. Adam Morrison has been really disappointing too and to think many people were hyping him up like he would be "on another level" while he's averaging 13.6 points and shooting a deplorable 37.2% from the field and 32.1% from downtown. He's incredibly slow, which is probably why his defense is so terrible. LaMarcus Aldridge and Tyrus Thomas aren't ish, well at least not now. I always saw through Aldridge - too skinny to really make an impact in the frontcourt. Even in the Final Four Big Baby easily kept him out the paint. Granted, he's 300 pounds, but Aldridge's skinny frame has still worked to his disadvantage like I said. There's also not much to be said about Tyrus Thomas: he averages 3.6 points and 2.6 rebounds in 10 minutes. He looks like his peak is lower than expected. And to think people got on Isiah for trading Eddy Curry for his rights. Randy Foye is okay, but at the end of the day he's a turnover machine and tends to take illadvised shots like most undersized SG's. He could be decent in the league, but hasn't been too impressive this season. Bargnani is okay too, but the verdict is out on him. He could be a complete bust or a decent player because he has some good skills. Still, he's been decent for a rookie, not great like the rookies in our past couple of drafts. Now our past couple of drafts gave us many good players: 2005: Andrew Bogut, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Channing Frye, Danny Granger, Raymond Felton, and David Lee just to name a few. All of them are arguably better than any of the aforementioned prospects in 2006 2004: Dwight Howard, Emeka Okafor, Ben Gordon, Luol Deng, just to name a few all showed more their rookie seasons than this shitty class of 2006. 2003: Do I need to even say anything? Anyway, looking at past my rant (don't know why I'm so angry), you'll notice I have been very unimpressed with these rookies, which were getting the attention of many of these so-called "experts". I knew from the start this class would be trash (at least their rookie year) and hopefully they get better. Btw, I'm gonna change the name of this thread - it doesn't say anything about the topic.
Not really. I think last year's draft was one of the deeper ones in recent years. This is a very weak draft class and Brandon Roy (when healthy) is probably the most impressive this season. In terms of the best prospect, I think it's Bargnani.
Tyrus Thomas is showing flashes. He had something like 8, 10 and 5 blocks in 20 minutes the other night. He has greatly improved his outside game as well. Remember, him and Aldridge were always supposed to be projects. Aldridge has shown flashes of brilliance as well. Roy was great before the injury and Foye has started to come along, so has Bargs.
The reason you really don't see rookies form this year class is not that they suck, but that they are not getting playing time. Randy Foye is a ROY candidate, but he just recently started getting some serious tick in Minnesota. Tyrus has shown some great skill, but he averages less than ten minutes a game so that's not much time to make an impact same with most of the guys from this draft class. Give them more playing time and this draft class would look just as good as last years. As far as rookie of the year goes its a toss up between Foye, Roy, and Morrison.
When Tyrus has gotten minutes, he's been impressive. He had 8/8/5 the other night, which isn't bad for a rook that doesn't get much burn. And despite what you think MrJ, his ceiling is a whole lot higher than you give him credit for. His offense still needs polish (quite a bit), but his defense has been solid and he's been a solid rebounder as well. Beyond this, he's an athletic freak, and that alone could be good enough to get him bye (note Josh Smith in his first year plus). The kid's going to be good, and I don't think you can give him negative gripe because quite frankly, he's hardly had the opportunity to showcase what he can do. Aldridge is kind of the same. He has been solid, and given the minutes, he's been productive. Hell, for only 18mpg, I don't know if it's fair to expect more than 7/4/1 from him right now. When you look at it though, he's been good when he's given minutes. He's scored in double figures 11 times, which isn't bad for a rookie that doesn't get a horrible amount of minutes. While he's a project, much like a lot of the draft, he's got plenty of potential, and if he can add some muscle, he could be good as well. As for best rookie. I'm giving it it Foye or Roy. Foye has turned it on as of late now that he's getting some consistent burn, and Roy has been solid when he's healthy. Morrison, however, has been disappointing. I hope, for his sake, he turns it on after the AS Break, if not beforehand.
No one stands out this year. Foye has probably been the most productive overall, but what he's done on a per minute basis isn't stellar. I think Roy is probably the best player in the class, when healthy, but he's missed so many games that he can't be in the running at this point. Morrison has just been horrible -- he shouldn't be in the conversation. Gay has shown some promise, but he's also a long way from being a steady, productive NBA player. The player who's performed his role the best and perhaps has contributed more in terms of winning is probably Paul Millsap. He hasn't played a lot of minutes, but in time he's gotten I think he's played very well. Don't know too much about Bargnani, but I understand that he's been playing better as the season has progressed. If I had to give it to someone right now, I guess I'd give it to Foye.
While Adam Morrison is putting up horrible shooting averages, as I saw Shape say in another topic about him, alot of his shots just arent dropping, they're rimming out. Once he can work this out, he'll be shooting alot better numbers. I've seen him driving and cutting to the basket alot more than expected though, I think he has shown some potential in that region. I think he'll be a good player, I definatley see him averaging close to, if not 20ppg in a few seasons. I love his passion for the game, he's always willing to improve himself. I think he can improve on his defense, and he has shown flashes of passing and rebounding, I dont see him being overated or a bust at all.
<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">While Adam Morrison is putting up horrible shooting averages, as I saw Shape say in another topic about him, alot of his shots just arent dropping, they're rimming out. Once he can work this out, he'll be shooting alot better numbers. I've seen him driving and cutting to the basket alot more than expected though, I think he has shown some potential in that region. I think he'll be a good player, I definatley see him averaging close to, if not 20ppg in a few seasons. I love his passion for the game, he's always willing to improve himself. I think he can improve on his defense, and he has shown flashes of passing and rebounding, I dont see him being overated or a bust at all.</div> I'd be willing to bet all my marbles that Morrison turns out to be the best player in that draft. He's by far the hardest worker, and that will take him places. And like you guys said, it just isn't dropping. Every player goes through that at some point.
Haven't you guys been watching Bargnani? He was blocking Dirk's shot and dunking on him (but also got dunked by Dirk) He's been the most impressive rookie and his potential is scary. He can take it to the hole, shoot it anywhere, block, his defence is getting better as the season progresses, hes making less mistakes, he has amazing passing skills for a 7 footer, put him with bosh and that frees up space for both of them. No doubt Bargnani and Roy will be the best players out of this draft.
<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">While Adam Morrison is putting up horrible shooting averages, as I saw Shape say in another topic about him, alot of his shots just arent dropping, they're rimming out. Once he can work this out, he'll be shooting alot better numbers. I've seen him driving and cutting to the basket alot more than expected though, I think he has shown some potential in that region. I think he'll be a good player, I definatley see him averaging close to, if not 20ppg in a few seasons. I love his passion for the game, he's always willing to improve himself. I think he can improve on his defense, and he has shown flashes of passing and rebounding, I dont see him being overated or a bust at all.</div> I haven't seen Morrison really create his own shot yet on this level. He's incredibly slow and any athletic defender can keep him in check. In college he was up against slower defenders and at 6'8" he had very good size. The league average is about 6'8" so his size isn't a plus. I think Morrison will just be an average player who can knock down some shots. Maybe a KVH type player.
So far Bargnani is the only one showing he will be a franchise player. Adam Morrison I think will be like Wally Szerbiak - decent but not a franchise player. Roy and Foye will be solid but nothing to indicate they will be franchise players either. So far it looks like Toronto made the right choice. Bargnani is showing signs of a Nowitzki/Webber hybrid.
<div class="quote_poster">rafy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'd be willing to bet all my marbles that Morrison turns out to be the best player in that draft. He's by far the hardest worker, and that will take him places. And like you guys said, it just isn't dropping. Every player goes through that at some point.</div> I strongly disagree with that, but that's just me.
Wow, you guys are honestly sleeping on Bargnani. He's putting up solid numbers and contributing well to the team and showing excellent flashes of being an amazing player, and more than half of you failed to mention him
The other thing I look at Morrison is, he is averaging 13.6ppg on 37.2% shooting, while thats a very poor shooting percentage, it's a pretty good average, especially for a rookie. I think that right there shows what he is capable of, if those shots start dropping, and he boosts his percentage up to 43-44%, he should be putting up close to 20ppg. On the topic of Ammo, he almost notched up his first triple double today, 10 Points, 7 Rebounds, 7 Assists. Just remember, we're only about 2.5% into his career here, he still has ALOT of time to improve. Same goes with all of the rookies.
Randy Foye is just heating up right now in the last 10 games hes averaged 10+, this kid in the future will be something special though, great shot and speed
The rookies have been quiet this year. But Foye has been problably the best one so far. I haven't liked the "deep" draft so far anyway... My favourite one is Bargnagni...
