Lakers @ Hornets Gamethread

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  1. kobe23

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    <div class="quote_poster">Notorious Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Keep me updated, my bro took the controler and changed it. He said either computer or tv.</div>

    thats fair man... your bro has to do at least something right?
     
  2. Mamba

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    Bobby Jackson misses the three. Bynum grabs the board.

    Rasual Butler hits the basket.

    Kobe misses the three over Butler.

    David West hits the fall away over Luke. Hornets over 8. We lose another winnable game.
     
  3. kobe23

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    down by 8???
     
  4. Mamba

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    Kobe gets the basket.

    Bobby Jackson walks in for the layup. Perfect layup drill. I can't believe he was so wide open.

    Smush at the line, gets both.

    We're going to be the first team that the Hornets beat twice this year. Unbelievable.
     
  5. Really Lost One

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    yeah we lose. I guess you can blame the officials since they gave us zero calls, but either way you look at it, it shouldn't have even gone down to the point where we were playing catchup ball. Another extremely winnable game, another loss. Sigh. Amazing how this ball club can beat San Antonio twice this season, yet lose to the Hornets twice this season (without Chris Paul). I guess this is just what this Laker team is. They will win against top teams, and lose against teams going nowhere. To be honest with you, I didn't expect us to win today from the start. Whatever. Another blown opportunity. Can't wait 'til Odom and Brown returns

    Games like these make me question how this team is above .500 in the first place. Amazing how many winnable games we have lost this season. Unbelievable
     
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    Mo Evans with the block! Out of bounds. West looses it out of bounds. Two seconds on the shot cllock. West hits the wide open jumper. Nobody contested that, Luke was right there.

    Kobe gets the ball stold. Jackson gets another layup. Hornets up by 10. Walton bricks a three. Hornets win 113-103. This 8 game road trip coming up should be awesome!

    We really need Lamar and Kwame back. The Hornets average 90 points a game, but we give them 113. That's absolutely disgusting.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">kobe23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">is there something worng with kobe?</div>

    You mean Kobe doesn't play PERFECT every single night? And if he has a bad game there has to be something wrong with him?

    I'm SO SICK OF THIS.

    Why doesn't ANYONE EVER point the blame at Kobe? 7/22 shooting SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED.

    His defense was SORRY tonight, Rasual Butler kept scoring on him. Everytime he gave up a 3 to Butler, his stubborn ass had to try and get him back. It worked once, then it didn't work the second time, then guess what, instead of working the Triangle to get the lead down to 4, we're still down by 6, then next thing you know, we're down by 8, and we're done completely.

    This team can be a joke sometimes. And I'm not a fair-weather fan like others. I'm not going to blame Brian Cook or all the other Lakers every single game they have a bad performance.

    The only thing stopping Kobe right now is his poor decision making. He calls Gilbert Arenas a CHUCKER and has no conscious, but many times throughout the game, He chucks up his own shot.

    Why didn't we set up more plays for Mo Evans tonight? He was absolutely on fire, why not award him? Why not give Sasha some more shots? He's been money lately. Where the hell was Vladimir? He is becoming a NON factor to this team.

    Luke Walton needs to start shaping up, he has not been playing very well lately, and he had a very poor performance tonight both offensively and most importantly defensively.

    Right now, what this Lakers team needs is Lamar and Kwame back ASAP

    Man, I'm pissed right now, I'm out.
     
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    OH, and how does NO ONE ON THE DAMN LAKERS TEAM tell Kobe to watch HIS BACK that last possession in the game? THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. Kobe doesn't have eyes on the back of his head, YELL IT OUT.

    That SAME EXACT thing happened to me twice when I played indoor ball yesterday, and none of my teammates told me to watch my back when someone crept up behind me and I yelled at the top of my lungs, "CALL MY F*CKING BACK"
     
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    Preach illmatic. Preach
     
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    Vlad's been a non factor because he needs surgery on his shooting hand. A shooter needs their shooting hand to shoot, plain and simple. Phil wanted him to put it off until the off season, now we're paying the price of Phil's decision.

    I do agree, we did need to go to Mo Evans more tonight. He had the hot hand.

    It doesn't matter if Kobe was 7/22 or 0/22, we shouldn't have lost this game. We gave the Hornets 23 more points than they average. We took Bynum out early when he was hot, to put in Ronnie in the game, who's been terrible on offense.

    Walton was 4/13, Farmar was 1/5, and Smush was 4/10. Simply put, a lot of our crucial players didn't show up to play tonight, so I can't put the loss on Kobe. If Walton and Smush showed up, if Cook played D (terrible), then I'd put this lost on Kobe.

    David West has been gone for how long? His second game back, and he drops 26 and 12. We gave up 17 offensive boards. It was a game that we should've won, but didn't. This is a team loss, not a loss for Kobe.
     
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    I know Phil likes to experiment early in the season and take losses, and I'm wondering if this is one of those games. Why didn't he draw up more plays for Mo? The coaching in this game was horrible. Starting from taking Bynum out when he had 6 points half way through the first quarter all the way to the plays he drew up out of time outs.

    Why was Smush in there against Jackson? Jackson looked like he was running a layup drill, Smush isn't quick enough to guard half of the guards in the league, and it killed us tonight. I would've liked to see Sasha on him.
     
  12. DynastYWarrioR6

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    These rebounding disparities that we have now are the biggest indication to why we need Lamar and Kwame (post-cake) back as soon as possible....
     
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    How the hell can we lose to a teams like Hornets ? And Charlotte etc. And at the same time we won Magic, Heat and Spurs, but now we can't win the Hornets.

    I'm depressed...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Vlad's been a non factor because he needs surgery on his shooting hand. A shooter needs their shooting hand to shoot, plain and simple. Phil wanted him to put it off until the off season, now we're paying the price of Phil's decision.</div>

    Then seriously we either need to have him drive to the basket more or simply STOP shooting as much. When he bricks it's not like a Sasha miss, where like it almost made it there, he seriously BRICKS his shots for the most part.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I do agree, we did need to go to Mo Evans more tonight. He had the hot hand.</div>

    Yezzir, especially in front of his family, would have been nice to see him get even more touches than he got.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It doesn't matter if Kobe was 7/22 or 0/22, we shouldn't have lost this game. We gave the Hornets 23 more points than they average. We took Bynum out early when he was hot, to put in Ronnie in the game, who's been terrible on offense.</div>

    Bynum was hot? [​IMG] I watched the whole game, don't remember him ever being in a groove, he's just frustrating to watch. I think people know how I feel about him. He's just NOT athletic what-so-ever, he's no Dwight Howard or Tyrus Thomas in the way he plays, he's seriously like another Ilgauskas. And you have arguably the best center in the game working with him for 2 years, I haven't really seen anything THAT impressive. I'll give him time, he's only 19 for christ's sakes, but personally I just don't like him.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Walton was 4/13, Farmar was 1/5, and Smush was 4/10. Simply put, a lot of our crucial players didn't show up to play tonight, so I can't put the loss on Kobe. If Walton and Smush showed up, if Cook played D (terrible), then I'd put this lost on Kobe.
    David West has been gone for how long? His second game back, and he drops 26 and 12. We gave up 17 offensive boards. It was a game that we should've won, but didn't. This is a team loss, not a loss for Kobe.</div>


    Also, I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea, I'm not BLAMING Kobe for our loss or nothing, but I just hate how we can never point the finger at Kobe for his poor performances. I absolutely LOVE this Lakers forum because we have some of the best people ever. If you even say ANYTHING NEGATIVE about Kobe on ClubLakers or LakersGround, you're done, they chop your head off, and ask for a ban. It's ridiculous, for that, I am very grateful to have JBB to able to vent and have such awesome people to discuss the Lakers. Not too mention, after every loss, there's tons of "BRIAN COOK SUCKS" OR "TRADE SMUSH" or "LUKE WALTON IS NO LONGER GOOD" etc. It's disgusting.

    It is definitely a team loss, but as a leader and the best player in the league, he needs to start making better decisions. Just because he barely shoots in the first half and gets people involved, doesn't mean he can just chuck up anything he wants in the 3rd and 4th quarters. We need to use him effectively.

    Kobe is becoming VERY PREDICTABLE for other teams in the 1st half of the game because they know Kobe's not gonna be aggressive, so they'll just guard everyone man-to-man. He needs to start taking those open jumpers and stop trying so hard to make the pass and get the assist. JUST PLAY YOUR GAME KOBE.

    I'm gonna actually start up a new thread right now that will say LAST YEAR KOBE > THIS YEAR KOBE
     
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    Bynum started the game with 6 points and 4 boards, the officials took a timeout and when play resumed Bynum was on the bench. I only remember him picking up one foul in that span. I think it really disrupted his play.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Flow Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">How the hell can we lose to a teams like Hornets ? And Charlotte etc. And at the same time we won Magic, Heat and Spurs, but now we can't win the Hornets.

    I'm depressed...</div>

    That is probably what every Laker fan thinks about. Problem is we underestimate and they overachieve.
     

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