That should be the headline....I cant believe such a good young team would add a clown like Lavar Arrington....wanna know what you get for your $49 million? Here it is: 6 Years 79 Games 396 tackles (a spectacular 66 a season) 22.5 Sacks (a spectacular 3.5 a season) 3 Ints (a spectacular .5 a season) 10 FFs (a spectacular 1.66 a season) 7 Fumb Rec (a spectacular 1.16 a season) What a dominating OLB this guys is....and if those pedestrian numbers werent bad enough, consider that he did it from the weakside, a position that actually enhances your chances to make big plays! In fact, hes so good, he was a healty scratch in several games while playing for a Hall of Fame coach on a team that went to the playoffs....what a great signing for the Giants....
7 year 49 mil.. WOW I know most Packer fans are complaining about not getting him but for once I'm glad TT didn't overypay for someone. I do hope we get Woodson though. I can't stand Carroll but if it means overpaying then you might want to avoid him. Law is asking for a lot as well.
only 11 million is guaranteed and if he doesnt work out you cut him. With taht said he doesnt look to good on paper but I think that he is better then any LB they could have got at what the 24th spot... I hope the giants trade their pick for another decent LB. I would love to have a speedy LB to compliment Lavar and Pierce. Plus the giants draft well in round 2 always Strahan, Umenyiora, Tiki, Amani Toomer.... ALSO remember Plaxico signing was Scrutinized and its been working out amazingly.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>What a dominating OLB this guys is....and if those pedestrian numbers werent bad enough, consider that he did it from the weakside, a position that actually enhances your chances to make big plays!</div> How many of those games was he forced to sit out because he didn't get along with Joe Gibbs? And how does that skew his averages? He does have three Pro Bowl appearances, after all.
i am sure not alot of it is garenteed.. and it is over 7 years.. which i am sure there are insentives for playing well.. Lavar will be just fine.. besides who does NY have at LB agian? Lavar will be back to PB caliber in no time and will see money well spent
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>That should be the headline....I cant believe such a good young team would add a clown like Lavar Arrington....wanna know what you get for your $49 million? Here it is: 6 Years 79 Games 396 tackles (a spectacular 66 a season) 22.5 Sacks (a spectacular 3.5 a season) 3 Ints (a spectacular .5 a season) 10 FFs (a spectacular 1.66 a season) 7 Fumb Rec (a spectacular 1.16 a season) What a dominating OLB this guys is....and if those pedestrian numbers werent bad enough, consider that he did it from the weakside, a position that actually enhances your chances to make big plays! In fact, hes so good, he was a healty scratch in several games while playing for a Hall of Fame coach on a team that went to the playoffs....what a great signing for the Giants....</div> I agree w/ Beef but thought Arrington was a SLB.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giantsfan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Plus the giants draft well in round 2 always</div> So, they purposefully tank in round 1 just to listen to the fans boo? LOL? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>How many of those games was he forced to sit out because he didn't get along with Joe Gibbs? And how does that skew his averages? He does have three Pro Bowl appearances, after all.</div> Can't get along w/ Gibbs but thinks he can deal w/ Coughlin??? I think some of that guaranteed money needs to go to a psychiatrist.
Since there is only $11 mil guaranteed, I don't think this is that bad. He'll be reunited with a player he knows and has the chance to start over. His biggest problems has always been freelancing, which could hurt him in NY, but you can't deny the guy has talent.
Way to much gauranteed for a guy with one good season, and one decent season, who was injured after those seasons, and hasnt proven he can get back there. Especially, since only 3 teams were interested
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'>i am sure not alot of it is garenteed.. and it is over 7 years.. which i am sure there are insentives for playing well.. Lavar will be just fine.. besides who does NY have at LB agian? Lavar will be back to PB caliber in no time and will see money well spent</div> Back to PB calibur? when did he ever have a PB calibur season? the guys was overhyped when he came into the league and a few teams still overhype him(very few, maybe just one)...by the way, going to the PB doesnt make you PB calibur, playing well does and hes never done that....I know the Giants fans see the speed and the power and the package and it looks so good, but he lacks the intelligence to play in the league....the 1st time he breaks off his assignment and you guys lose a game because of it, you'll see why he had 3 healthy scratches last year, and why Gregg Williams and Joe Gibbs couldnt wait to get him out of town(btw, who better to exploit him than Gibbs....he will have a field day drawing up plays to make this guy look dumb)....
Burress never broke out in pitt either did he? nope.. but he sure shined in NY... Ahman Green didn't shine in seattle but he did in GB... Thomas Jones wasn't a good player in arizona but he is with the bears... A team can make or break a players carrer.. so time will tell on this one
yea as others have said and i have said in the other thread its only a good signing because of the 11 mill guranteed money i think its a good signing and Pierce will benefit from it. as said if he doesnt work out they'll cut him no harm done
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Burress never broke out in pitt either did he? nope.. but he sure shined in NY... Ahman Green didn't shine in seattle but he did in GB... Thomas Jones wasn't a good player in arizona but he is with the bears... A team can make or break a players carrer.. so time will tell on this one</div> Time to educate!.... 1.So you're suggesting that Burress never broke out in Pitt but did in NY? With PITT 2001 66rec 1008 yrds 6tds 2002 78rec 1325 yrds 7tds With NYG 2005 76rec 1214yds 7tds please explain to me how less catches and less yards is a breakout while more catches and more yards isnt.... 2.Ahman Green was a young player sitting behind a Hall Of Fame calibur RB when he was in Seattle....he wasnt going to win that job so his team took a chance and traded him....he flourished with his next team when given the oppurtunity....he did not, however, get a big deal in GB until after he had success....if Arrington was a young unproven player, this would be a good arguement, but the guy has started over 70 career games.... 3.Thomas Jones numbers are much better than they ever were in Arz....but no one gave him a huge deal with $11mil guaranteed....he got a 1 year deal in TB to prove himself...the Giants have locked up Arrington for huge money I also heard the arguement that only $11 mill is guaranteed and that justifies it....$11 million is a huge number in the NFL....thats the kind of money you reserve for productive players....the guy is going to make some plays, hes too freakish as an athelete not too....but the 1st time the Giants lose a game because he was man on Brian Westbrook, left him to chase McNabb, and exposes his teammates to a 75 yard catch and run TD, you'll come to realize what the Skins fans know.... PS...to Bears#1Fan....you gotta bring it a little better if you are going to challenge the vets on this board....do a little research, gather some facts, then come back and see me....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>...(btw, who better to exploit him than Gibbs....he will have a field day drawing up plays to make this guy look dumb)....</div> Not to be a nitpicker but it will be former Chiefs OC Al Saunders designing the plays. I am sure the 'Skins will be running alot of 3 & 4 WR Sets with S. Moss, Randle-El, Patten, Lloyd, & Thrash. I'll go so far as to say Lavar won't be able to guard Cooley or keep up w/ Portis.
LaVar's not a bad player but he's certainly not worth that kind of money. I'd like to see where his contract matches up with other LB's. After seeing this if I'm Joey Porter I wonder if I contact Pittsburgh.. hmm...
Yeah I was at one time hoping he came here, although I woulden't mind if he did choose us im not as bummed out as I thought, Also this could mean my Boy Hawk at #5!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FLORIDA PACKER)</div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I was at one time hoping he came here, although I woulden't mind if he did choose us im not as bummed out as I thought, Also this could mean my Boy Hawk at #5!</div> I wouldn't mind Hawk but I must comment on your signaure.. You have KGB and then Mario who.. Are you kidding me?? KGB is overpaid product of Sherman as GM. I'd take Mario over KGB right now probably.. Sorry just wanted my rant to come out.. lol...
i can bring it just fine.. Your just automaticly ruling him out for whatever reason.. U act like u are the guru of football knowlege... Sorry i don't know all the piss poor stats of people.. i have a job and a life so i don't revolve around the sport.. but i do know enough to get me threw the convo.. NY could be the perfect fit for him... and 11 million over 7 years isn't alot of money rookies who haven''t done shit sign contracts bigger then this... Besides its only one persons opinion.. like hawk saying the refs screwed them in the superbowl.. this is based solely on your opinion.. and my opinion is he is going to impact NY from the get go.. and if not then i guess i was wrong
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'>i can bring it just fine.. Your just automaticly ruling him out for whatever reason.. U act like u are the guru of football knowlege... Sorry i don't know all the piss poor stats of people.. i have a job and a life so i don't revolve around the sport.. but i do know enough to get me threw the convo.. NY could be the perfect fit for him... and 11 million over 7 years isn't alot of money rookies who haven''t done shit sign contracts bigger then this... Besides its only one persons opinion.. like hawk saying the refs screwed them in the superbowl.. this is based solely on your opinion.. and my opinion is he is going to impact NY from the get go.. and if not then i guess i was wrong</div> Actually he get's 11 Mil up front. so it's not a 7 year 11 Mil contract. He has 11 Mil in his pocket right now. That's guaranteed. Now he can earn more. Then he plays a year and he gets 7 Mil plays another gets another 7 Mil and so on.. pending of course how the contract is laid out.. It could actually decrease in years or increase but it's worth up too 49 Mil and that's not counting bonus' I believe. That's way to much for LaVar..
Its 11mill guranteed and up to $49 million total....the base salaries are $3.9mil per year and the incentives could raise them as high as $5mil a year....$3.9mil a year is way too high for a conterproductive player that teases you with potential, while $5mil is more than fair for a player if he meets the production incentives in the deal....in other words, its a good deal for the Giants if he outperforms the deal(which most contracts are), but a horrible deal if he plays anything like he has his entire NFL career....and if you know anything about Arrington and his agents, he will insist on renegotiating if he outperforms the deal, so there is very little upside for the Giants from a cost standpoint after the inital 2 years....this is a bad deal, through and through....if it was 2 years, $3mil I would be supportive, because the guy is talented, but its a lot of money for a guy thats just not productive....
