Report: NBA considering penalizing players for flops

<div class="quote_poster">Kensaku Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Getting to a spot and drawing a charge IS good defense. If you're able to anticipate a ballhandler's destination before he reaches it, that's good defense and more importantly, bad offense.

What you suggest -- Defenders should try to play defense, moving their feet, denying the lanes, hassling the ball handler, and trying to block the shot -- can be done but a lot of these drawn charges, ala Dunleavy, is a result of the ballhandler on a fastbreak not knowing where the heck he's going...it's bad fundamentals and lack of offensive awareness. It's a separate situation from...say Monta Ellis playing man on so-and-so and drawing a charge.

Players like Dunleavy, who are good at anticipating an opponents intentions, get to the right spot at the right time.</div>

Wow Kensaku, you really believe that Dunleavy does that. Maybe I've been belittling his D. The times I've seen him get bowled over, it's usually a flop. Sometimes he gets the call.

You can tell when Dunleavy really gets rolled because he gets really steamed when he does actually get bowled over and it's not called.

 

<div class="quote_poster">jason voorhees Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wow Kensaku, you really believe that Dunleavy does that. Maybe I've been belittling his D. The times I've seen him get bowled over, it's usually a flop. Sometimes he gets the call.

You can tell when Dunleavy really gets rolled because he gets really steamed when he does actually get bowled over and it's not called.</div>

I do believe he was one of the better ones at drawing legitimate charges on the team. I remember on TNT, Shane Battier did this segment on how he draws charges. It's not really a coincidence that they went to the same school. They probably teach that crap at Duke. It is one of the few things Dun was consistently good at doing...maybe the only thing.

 

I dont think it would be necessary to penalize players for flopping. Players flop today because the refs reward guys falling down when there is a little bit of contact. If they want to penalize players for flopping, simply dont call a foul everytime someone does flop.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Kensaku Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I do believe he was one of the better ones at drawing legitimate charges on the team. I remember on TNT, Shane Battier did this segment on how he draws charges. It's not really a coincidence that they went to the same school. They probably teach that crap at Duke. It is one of the few things Dun was consistently good at doing...maybe the only thing.</div>

I lean more towards what Matt Steinmetz said, but if you take away the charge then you give more advantage to the bigger man over the smaller one. You do need to have it in the game. It's the flopping and too many questionable charge calls we have to get rid of:
"Matt Steinmetz: Count me among those who hate the abundance of charge calls. I have no idea why the NBA rewards defensive players who seek out contact on the floor. I think a charge-block call is more one of feel. My dad was a ref for 30 years, so I'm very pro-ref in any league. I think the call is complex but the rule should be simple: if a player seems or is out of control, chances are, it's a charge; if a player seems under control and tries to avoid or slide off the defender, either let it go or make it a block.

If I were in charge of the league, I would begin to try to reward defensive players who try to make blocks. I would allow more contact up high, maybe a defender getting some hand or maybe even allowing a little body contact for a defender going up to try to block a shot. And I don't think that would yield more injuries, either. In general, I would start penalizing un-athletic defenders who "move in" and rewarding athletic shot-blockers who do just that ... try to go up and block shots."

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<div class="quote_poster">Rudeezy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I dont think it would be necessary to penalize players for flopping. Players flop today because the refs reward guys falling down when there is a little bit of contact. If they want to penalize players for flopping, simply dont call a foul everytime someone does flop.</div>

It's still a judgment call and that's what makes it difficult to regulate. If the refs hardly ever call it, then I think it gives the offense and the bigger man an advantage over the smaller, quicker man. We already have that dotted semi-circle to make it easier to call, but it's a tougher call when it is outside that. Maybe a warning first for a percieved flop and award a technical foul on the second.