<div class="quote_poster">Flow Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Great accomplishment, but only by 10 days or something ?;D LOL, he will problably be the quickest player who gets 20, 000.</div> i dont think so... i think his scoring will slow down from now on
<div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I wonder if he'll get an asterisk next to his record, because of the new 1 year NCAA rule. Lebron is going through age records like its nothing though, so he may beat it.</div> what do you mean?
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">A greater effect than completely missing four years? Come on. Kobe was always near the top of the league in Field Goal Attempts, even with Shaq. In 2002-03, for example, he was 16 attempts away from being the league's leader in attempts.</div> AI averages 23.1 shots a game, Kobe averages 18.5 (with an above average TS%). It did make a difference. Kobe also plays about 5 less minutes a game than AI. Their PER 40 numbers are already close enough. It sounds like you are just making assumptions on their careers based off the last couple of seasons (and forgetting who has received more minutes in the long run and such).
<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well I really don't agree. Look at the amount of shot attempts AI has taken to get to over 20000 points (and his ugly TS%). AI also averages 41.78 minutes for his career.</div> Thats because AI was ALLOWED to let loose when he came into the league... kobe was restricted to do what he did best by Del Harris and his other 1st few NBA coaches... plus EDDIE JONES and Van Exel were on the team... The Sixers went from a Lottery team to a Playoff team because of Iverson's much needed offence
<div class="quote_poster">kobe23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Thats because AI was ALLOWED to let loose when he came into the league... kobe was restricted to do what he did best by Del Harris and his other 1st few NBA coaches... plus EDDIE JONES and Van Exel were on the team... The Sixers went from a Lottery team to a Playoff team because of Iverson's much needed offence</div> I don't understand why you said that, I was making a similar point. Thanks for clearing that up anyway though.
Okay. It's going to be a pointless argue again. We can't compare Kobe's and AI's first years. Beacuse AI had free-hands when it came to scoring in Philly, but Kobe already had Shaq, Van Exel and Eddie Jones on the team.
You guys are missing my point. It's not an A.I. vs. Kobe thing, but rather a Kobe vs. every player in the pre-HS era thing. You can look at every player from Wilt to Michael and make the case that they'd have a high NBA point total at an early age like Bryant if they bypassed college.
Blah, blah, blah. Basically, well done to Kobe for having the record, his name name is up with the greats. LeBron will probably break the record as long as he doesn't get a serious injury. Why does everything have to turn into a debate?
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You guys are missing my point. It's not an A.I. vs. Kobe thing, but rather a Kobe vs. every player in the pre-HS era thing. You can look at every player from Wilt to Michael and make the case that they'd have a high NBA point total at an early age like Bryant if they bypassed college.</div> Right but at the same time you're missing the point; that Kobe only averages 18.5 shots a game for his career (due to having to feed Shaq earlier on in his life). So all these "youngest to get this" stats aren't so invalid. Kobe is a prolific scorer, and his ppg capabilities are on par with anyone.
<div class="quote_poster">kobe23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">what do you mean?</div> Players can no longer come straight out of HS, so hypothetically a guy such as Durant could have come right out and maybe have a chance to beat the record, but it will be quite a bit more difficult now with the age limit forcing 1 year at college.
<div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Players can no longer come straight out of HS, so hypothetically a guy such as Durant could have come right out and maybe have a chance to beat the record, but it will be quite a bit more difficult now with the age limit forcing 1 year at college.</div> That's another reason why they should say "fastest" in accordance to the number of games played. Because of the age limit, the record will never be broken (when in reality, records are meant to be) unless they average 37 PPG from the get go AFTER leaving their freshmen year (they would need to average a helluva lot more PPG if they left the NCAA on their soph. year). The only person who has a chance to beat this record (and probably will) is Lebron.
<div class="quote_poster">authentiq Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's another reason why they should say "fastest" in accordance to the number of games played. Because of the age limit, the record will never be broken (when in reality, records are meant to be) unless they average 37 PPG from the get go AFTER leaving their freshmen year (they would need to average a helluva lot more PPG if they left the NCAA on their soph. year). The only person who has a chance to beat this record (and probably will) is Lebron.</div> Right, so MJ should have the "fastest to" records (I don't think Wilt should as much, because of the faster paced games which inflated ppg). That said, no one else really overshadows Kobe as a pure scorer, so I wouldn't downplay his records.
