Who Would You Trade For Big Man Darko Milicic?

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  1. jason bourne

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    Darko is a big who can play inside and outside. He's got a perimeter shot and can block shots and grab some boards. The Magic may trade him because he's a restricted free agent who may end up being too expensive to keep. Also, they are looking for a perimeter player who can give them more scoring.

    Likely, they'd want a future first round pick in return as they had to give up one in order to get Darko from the Pistons.

    Darko has had some impressive games coming off the bench this season for the Magic, but hasn't been able to crack their starting lineup. He's only 21 years old:
    * Darko Milicic
    * #31
    * Forward-Center

    2006-07 Statistics

    PPG 7.3
    RPG 5.20
    APG 1.0
    EFF + 8.83

    Born: Jun 20, 1985
    Height: 7-0 / 2,13
    Weight: 275 lbs. / 124,7 kg.
    From : Serbia & Montenegro
    Years Pro: 3
     
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    Pietrus straight up...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Warriorfansnc93 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Pietrus straight up...</div>

    I agree. I'd trade pietrus, maybe throw in Zarko or a 2nd but definately not a 1st.
     
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    We'd have a Euro shotblocking front court. I'd trade Pietrus as well.
     
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    Yes, I still believe in Darko. He is no 2nd pick, but he will be a decent starter for years to come. Give them Pietrus.
     
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    Warriors need Reggie Evans/Boozer/Mikki Moore/Camby, not Darko. Get some defensive rebounding.

    Has Biedrins regressed? Why is he losing so many rebounds these days? Has he hit a wall?
     
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    Good news is, Darko is available and according to this thread Orlando/Warriors/Charlotte 3-Way Deal a deal might already be done?

    Bad news is Darko is demanding at least $10M per season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">philsmith75 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Has Biedrins regressed? Why is he losing so many rebounds these days? Has he hit a wall?</div>

    I don't think hes regressed but he has hit a wall. Defenders are figuring him out, keeping him off the glass, and I'm sure hes tired and breaking down from the heavy playing time and fast pace that hes never had to play before. The all-star break will probably do him some good.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Good news is, Darko is available and according to this thread Orlando/Warriors/Charlotte 3-Way Deal a deal might already be done?

    Bad news is Darko is demanding at least $10M per season.</div>

    Bad news is that Mullin would be dumb enough to trade J-Rich for Darko.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">hipokrat_x(LV) Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Bad news is that Mullin would be dumb enough to trade J-Rich for Darko.</div>

    J-Rich would be a salary dump if the deal went down. J-Rich is a great player, but it's hard to justify his salary, especially when the Warriors have Monta waiting in the wings to take his job. The Warriors aren't going to be hard pressed to replace his scoring under Nellie's system.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Good news is, Darko is available and according to this thread Orlando/Warriors/Charlotte 3-Way Deal a deal might already be done?

    Bad news is Darko is demanding at least $10M per season.</div>

    What kind of crack is someone smoking! There is no way we give up Jrich for a bust in Darko, let alone give up Pietrus and Zarko for him! [​IMG]

    1. This thread was quoted saying we were high on him, I have not seen one thread that thought we should give up anything of significance. The Magic want some scoring from a swing man position, that is what Pietrus can do and then some on the defensive end and rebound.

    2. Pietrus is in the same exact position with the Warriors as Darko is with the magic. The only difference is Pietrus is a starter in the NBA and Darko is a big man that is fairly rare now days.

    3. The only reason why I would make this trade is because Pietrus's status with us is up in the air, as is Darko, but Darko is way bigger than anyone we have. When we played the Magic, Darko and Howard towered over everyone on our team and that is just sad. We would only be bringing him in for a big body in the paint to spell Biedrens. He has some skills, but has failed to meet any potential. He is more of a forward in a centers body which would be ok with Biedrens on the court and Al at the 3.

    4. $10m per year is stupid. Foyle makes about that and we all know what that got us. Dampier makes about that and he is an All Star candidate.

    5. Jrich is not going to lose his job to Ellis any time soon. Ellis is a decent player, but he is still very inexperienced. Just wait until Jrich comes back to form...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Warriorfansnc93 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What kind of crack is someone smoking! There is no way we give up Jrich for a bust in Darko, let alone give up Pietrus and Zarko for him! [​IMG]

    1. This thread was quoted saying we were high on him, I have not seen one thread that thought we should give up anything of significance. The Magic want some scoring from a swing man position, that is what Pietrus can do and then some on the defensive end and rebound.

    2. Pietrus is in the same exact position with the Warriors as Darko is with the magic. The only difference is Pietrus is a starter in the NBA and Darko is a big man that is fairly rare now days.

    3. The only reason why I would make this trade is because Pietrus's status with us is up in the air, as is Darko, but Darko is way bigger than anyone we have. When we played the Magic, Darko and Howard towered over everyone on our team and that is just sad. We would only be bringing him in for a big body in the paint to spell Biedrens. He has some skills, but has failed to meet any potential. He is more of a forward in a centers body which would be ok with Biedrens on the court and Al at the 3.

    4. $10m per year is stupid. Foyle makes about that and we all know what that got us. Dampier makes about that and he is an All Star candidate.

    5. Jrich is not going to lose his job to Ellis any time soon. Ellis is a decent player, but he is still very inexperienced. Just wait until Jrich comes back to form...</div>

    All valid points, however, I'm just pointing out some of the reasons the Warriors might consider this deal.

    Included in the deal the Warriors would receive JJ Redick, Brevin Knight, Walter Hermann, the rights to Fran Vazquez, and Orlando's 2nd Round pick this year.

    $10Million might be a lot, but Darko's agent is using Chris Kaman's recent deal to set the price tag for Darko. Big men come at a premium in the NBA, so teams generally have to overpay for their services.

    Brevin Knight gives the Warriors another expiring contract and insurance incase Baron Davis gets injured.

    JJ Redick hasn't been given a chance in Orlando, but the one thing he can do is shoot, and even if the Warriors don't see him part of the long term plan, he has trade value around the league still.

    Walter Hermann is a tough player, and is being wasted down in Charlotte. He was the heart and soul for Argentina's National Team, but he's struggled with the language barrier this year. He can be a solid role player for the Warriors similar to what Najera used to do for them. Dive for balls, hustle, create second chance opportunities etc.

    Fran Vazquez he's a bonus if the Warriors organization can convince him to come over.

    The main benefit again is capspace, which allows the Warriors to keep Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins.

    Potential lineup:

    PG - Baron Davis / Knight / Sarunas
    SG - Monta Ellis / Redick / Azubuike
    SF - Al Harrington / SJax / Barnes
    PF - Darko Milic / Hermann/ Powell
    C - Andris Biedrins / Foyle / POB

    This starting 5 gives the Warriors a lot of size and athleticism at every position. Nellie would have more flexibility with his roster to exploit mismatches.
     
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    ^ There still have no backups they have so much talent in the frontcourt, if this trade goes through look for them to go for more depth. Darko hasnt really done much but who knows maybe the run and gun style is better for him [​IMG]

    Id also rather have Kaman than Darko he plays great defense and is a good rebounder, only thing is hes inconsistent with scoring even though he has a nice left hand.
     
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    The only reason I said Warriors' fans were high on him was because this thread was made.

    I just meant that you guys were interested in him.
     
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    No way would I do that trade. Why make it complicated. They need a guard, we need a big man. Both are restricted FAs. If you ask me, Orlando would still get the better of the deal, so maybe they add in a 2nd rounder...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Swish Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The only reason I said Warriors' fans were high on him was because this thread was made.

    I just meant that you guys were interested in him.</div>

    Actually it seems like Warrior fans from all over the internet seem to have a boner for Darko. We see him being 7 foot, skilled, good rebounder and shotblocker but don't question why he never gets off the bench. He feels entitled to being a starter, doesn't want to work for it. Hes definitely a starting quality C in the NBA, with his size and skills he could be a top 10 C but he lacks the drive to become the best player he can be.

    I'd rather not do that trade but if we did I can see why we would do it. Shape already mentioned many points about what the reasoning for that trade would be but the key thing is depth and size in the frontcourt. Like Shape said,J-Rich is a great scorer and hes been the heart and soul of the team for years and I'd hate to see him go, but we've got Baron scoring over 20 ppg, Monta at just under 18 per game, Jackson at 14, Pietrus at 13-14, and Barnes at 11 plus Harrington who is perimeter oriented averaging 22+ ppg with us. We really don't need more backcourt scoring and unfortunately JR doesn't bring anything else to the team except scoring and leadership while the other wings can all play defense, handle the ball, penetrate, shoot FTs (except Pietrus).

    Darko would be a great backup C and depending on his skills he could even start for us with Harrington at SF. I think Nellie would leave the competition for the starting 4/5 positions up for grabs, if Darko still thinks he doesn't have to work to start he can keep coming off the bench. Hermann can play as we know from the couple of games we saw recently against Charlotte, he can shoot, rebound, and like Shape said hes tough. Not to mention we get Brevin Knight who is legit at PG and a great backup for Baron plus hes got a short contract. Redick is a crazy shooter, not much else, he can get some time with us. If Vasquez comes over then we get another lotto pick big man. Plus we get a second or two and tons of cap space.

    I still don't know if I like the trade but imagine this lineup:

    Baron/Brevin Knight/Saras
    Monta/Azu/Redick
    Jackson/Barnes/Azu
    Harrington/Hermann/Barnes
    Biedrins/Darko/Foyle

    Our frontcourt is beefier now, I kept the starting lineup the same because I don't think Biedrins and Darko would start together under Nellie unless Darko is better than I think he is but either way Darko will get a lot of minutes and give us some inside presence. One major problem with this trade is re-signing Darko but I'd predict a Drew Gooden or Chris Wilcox type of contract: 3 years, 6-7 mil/year. I think Darko will find himself in a similar situation as they were in where no one is very interested so he'll eventually settle for a shorter term mid-range contract.
     
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    JRich for Darko?!? AHAHAHA!!!!

    Considering we have a chance of getting Pau if we package JRich/picks/and whoever on the roster this is just dumb.
     
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    $10M a year for Darko is crazy. We don't need to get another Murphy. Darko's been a part time player so something around the MLE would all right. We still need to extend AB and Monta, so anything beyond that would make it difficult to re-sign the players we want to keep. I wouldn't give Darko a bigger deal than Nazr Mohammed or someone like that.

    And that 3-way trade rumor is ridiculous. No thanks.

    I agree MP would be a good trade candidate because they would command similar salary.

    The only thing difficult may be giving up a future #1 pick to get Orlando to commit. Good big men are difficult to get in the NBA, so you have to take a chance and pay to get them young or else get one via the draft. Darko's been seasoned, so he may be worth giving up a future #1 for. Just not for 2007 unless it's the Philly pick [​IMG].
     
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    That rumor also said the Warriors are looking to dump JRich and that he and Nellie clashed heads.....


    ???? [​IMG] [​IMG] ?????
     

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