Who Would You Trade For Big Man Darko Milicic?

I don't know if Darko is the answer, but who knows maybe he's worth it if we're trading one of the pacers not named Harrington or Sjax.

There's things about Darko, I like, and there's things I don't. The one thing I think is in question is his attitude. He's got the ability to be very good, but he hasn't show anything. He's a rare, tall, strong, athletic player that can do a bit of everything, yet he got himself traded from Pistons (a team with a winning situation). Plus, for a guy who is supposedly a nice shooting player he is averaging pretty low fg%'s and is doing almost as poorly as Andris Biedrins at the foul line. Shooters that can't make free throws aren't guys I want, unless they're doing a lot of other things to make up for it.

 

<div class="quote_poster">AlleyOop Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That rumor also said the Warriors are looking to dump JRich and that he and Nellie clashed heads.....


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WTF? That better not be true. If they did, I'm taking Jrich's side. There's a time when the coach has to let the players play and starting playing reasonable lineups and reasonable defensive strategy. Nobody's playing any passing lanes if they're taking the ball right down the middle on us or outshooting us from outside.

Nelly has more control than any other coach since, well, Nelly. I hope he's not going to do some ego thing. Jrich sure as hell ain't Chris Webber mentality.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Swish Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The only reason I said Warriors' fans were high on him was because this thread was made.

I just meant that you guys were interested in him.</div>

For the moment, Warrior fans are considering every player that measures 6'9 or taller. Milicic was just yesterdays daily -what-about-him topic. Nothing morer than that.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Swish Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The only reason I said Warriors' fans were high on him was because this thread was made.

I just meant that you guys were interested in him.</div>

Some new poster claimed he knew a guy working for the Bobs. Nobody actually believed this. I'd gag if we swapped J Rich-MP for a bunch of guys I consider draft blunders,and a short stay for Brevin. Why is Battie getting a lot of minutes if Darko's a $10 mill talent? Even if he got $8 mill---what the hell has he done? His level of effort and focus is not impressive. Reddick is another volume shooter from deep who's no asset on D. Vasquez still ain't done much in Europe. Hermann's an okay backup----but hey folks...we don't get a damn starter in this and lose 2.

 

<div class="quote_poster">AlleyOop Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That rumor also said the Warriors are looking to dump JRich and that he and Nellie clashed heads.....


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Exactly I dont know where that came from...

 

Horrible deal.

It's not much of a salary dump when we have to resign Darko for significant amount after this season. If we actually make that trade and sign Darko for 10 mils per year, we are actually only swapping Richardson for Darko, and there is hardly any salary relief. And, do I actually trust Mullin that he will sign Darko for significantly less amount? History says no.

There is no question that we desperately need a help, and Darko is only 21 years old. So, there is definitely a room to grow. And, we just do not know how Richardson will respond to Nelson's system, so we also have to gamble on Richardson after he returns. But, do I want to bet on a player, who only averages 22 mins, shoots 41% FG, and wasn't able to excel when he plays along with Howard? Or, do I bet on a player, who proved himself again and again for last few years?

If Mullin can sign Darko for MLE, I may see a slight reason to do the deal. If not, forget it...

 

Apparently, the JRich trade rumor still has legs and I only post below for SOME GIGGLES. I discarded it when I first heard it about 3 - 4 days ago because Mullin came out and said he wouldn't trade JRich while he was hurt, period. Mullin usually doesn't say much so you got to give weight to what he says.

Still the original INTERNET trade rumor has been updated by another INTERNET trade rumor. Yes it's the internet, but I tend to believe what pree says in the JRich deal not going down, but for much different reasons.

So, yes, I do believe Orlando would be willing to trade, but they can forget about JRich. Orlando's GM Otis Smith started with the Warriors and knows JRich. He'd grab that deal in a heart-<trade consummated>-beat if JRich was indeed available.

"Stay cool, my babies ..

Although it seems to me that you don't necessarily need me to debunk this one anymore than you already have, this deal is not going to happen for a lot of reasons. I'm still waiting back to hear from a Bobcats source about it and he might never call back, but league sources elsewhere had indicated earlier this week that there was something to this deal that made sense. Milicic and Arroyo of the Magic have been unhappy with their roles on the team and have quietly been upset. The Magic locker room is pretty tight, so trade demands either haven't been made or have been kept a lid upon. Arroyo has lost his backup job to Diener, and Vazquez may be open to leaving Spain for another team.

That's what did make sense earlier this week.

Well, upon further review, multiple league sources have made one thing clear: Orlando, although willing to listen to offers and such for their slightly disgruntled players, isn't going to be the team that triggers this deal for one reason. The people I spoke with, one of whom is in the offices of one of these teams (I wish I could be more lucid, but I'm not at that liberty) said the Magic would not be willing to give up what amounts to three first round picks for Jason Richardson. The Magic gave one up for Darko and would be giving up their last two in Redick and Vazquez. They simply are not willing to give up that kind of investment. They'd be laughing stocks around the league, regardless of the caliber of player JRich is.

Now, that was reason #1 the deal won't go down. A source close to another Eastern Conference team made another thing clear: the Bobcats wouldn't want to take on contracts. Arroyo and Garrity have small contracts, but the 'Cats don't want to slot what amounts to about 6 to 7 million dollars to bench players when they may have a roster turnover of seven players (meaning, seven guys on the team now may not be back). Gerald Wallace may opt out and all those others may find their way gone.

With that being said, the Bobcats are going to want to spend some money this summer (finally) to fill out their roster. They'll offer a max deal to a perimeter scorer (Vince Carter, they hope) or make a move for a player that has a lot of money already committed to them (Ray Allen). They don't want to waste money on guys like Garrity and Arroyo. They're building slowly.

Then that brings us to the Warriors bringing in six new guys with the pick included .. uh .. wow. So you just make a four for four deal and then bring in five more? In speaking with Nellie in the past, he wouldn't react well to a brand new team that isn't close to the shape he needs them to be in. If this trade were done, yea, the team would have some more money in a few years, but that playoff drought would continue at least past this season.

If my Bobcats guy gets back to me, maybe I'll have some more to tell you, but this just .. yea, let it go.

by pree on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 10:13:42 AM EST l"

Scroll all the way down. The original rumor is somewhere in there, too, if you missed it.
http://goldenstateofmind.com/story/2007/1/31/161913/134

 

Well this seems to have fizzled out in a hurry...

 

Warriors fans should know by now. If you hear about a trade before it is official it is ONLY a rumor. Mullin is like a cloak and dagger GM, he stabs you and you dont even see it coming...

 

I wouldn't mind having Darko. Just not at the cost of JRich. That would be too high a price to pay. I'm willing to give up a future #1 (not 2007) and MP tops.

The only thing is Nelson wouldn't play Darko and AB together. Likely, Darko would backup AB unless he can out stud AB.

 

Darko would definitely be backup center.

I think the problem with all our coaches has been they inherit a really unbalanced, young roster and they are known for playing one style of ball and one style of ball only. Monty was big ball. Nelly was small ball. I kind of wish for Musselman again even though he had a few problems. I can't really complain about his game style too much since I never coached, but he seemed to play any kind of way x's and o's or run n' do-whatever.

Back to Darko... maybe it's best to stay away from him if he's looking like another Tskitishvilli. Darko is at least in the league still, but you never know when other more productive players may come to replace him. That's the problem with this league, they kept bringing in guys that weren't ready or hadn't proved jack in tough competition. I'm kind of glad they raised the nba age limit so they can find ways to get better before they hop into the league.

 

<div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Back to Darko... maybe it's best to stay away from him if he's looking like another Tskitishvilli. Darko is at least in the league still, but you never know when other more productive players may come to replace him. That's the problem with this league, they kept bringing in guys that weren't ready or hadn't proved jack in tough competition. I'm kind of glad they raised the nba age limit so they can find ways to get better before they hop into the league.</div>

Oh yeah. What ever happened to Skita anyway? He was playing summer ball for Minny or someone in Utah.

What's wacko with Darko is he wants $10 M per or some ridiculous number like that. I think he's a RFA, but don't Orlando will match that. Anyway better to be patient and there may be someone else that will surface.

BTW I think this is how it works, but we can trade our new players in a one-for-one deal. So we can trade Jax or Cabbages straight up for a Darko.

 

<div class="quote_poster">jason voorhees Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Oh yeah. What ever happened to Skita anyway? He was playing summer ball for Minny or someone in Utah.

What's wacko with Darko is he wants $10 M per or some ridiculous number like that. I think he's a RFA, but don't Orlando will match that. Anyway better to be patient and there may be someone else that will surface.

BTW I think this is how it works, but we can trade our new players in a one-for-one deal. So we can trade Jax or Cabbages straight up for a Darko.</div>

I'd do that trade. Darko's attitude and work ethic is in question, but he is a nice prospect based on his physical upside. He's got strength, he's got athleticism. He's got some good technical skills and all-around basketball skills. But for one reason or another he is inconsistent and for some reason just can't finish like a guy his size and strength should. I mean for gosh sakes the guy once got blocked on a open dunk attempt by the rim and then he broke his hand on it. Doofus! But you know how big men are. It's worth a gamble when we're giving up guards and swing dudes. There will be another Sjax for sure, but Darko is kind of unique. Big men do take a while to get better.

Not sure what happened to Skita. He probably is playing for some Euro team. He's kinda got no true nba position and he's not strong enough or quick enough to get beween the power forward and the center position like Dirk Nowitzki or KG. He's definitely athletic, but not strong and it seems like he's got some moves, but he doesn't use them much. He just jacks threes like Bargnani. He's got no power or drive to his game like many of the successful F/C or PF/SF's. It's the same problem with guys like Zarko in that they can emulate something like a Dirk or Garnett, but they don't have very many mid-post moves or rebounding ability. Skita probably shouldn't have been drafted so young because the nuggets really didn't develop him right... He got very little playing time to play through his mistakes. But hey, that's the nba. A team can't wait on a guy forever. They want to win now.

Shoot... I have deja vu. I swear it's like we've had this conversation before regarding another player who was no longer in the league and wasn't doing very well.