4:31 left in the first quarter, Biedrins is 4-6 with eight points. Maybe that is their game plan? BTW Warriors are up, well now 22-13 with 3:21 left in the first.
Did I mention I really dislike Harrington's game? More athletic than Troy Murphy, not as good as Jamison or Murphy rebounding or getting to the foul line. Somewhere in between those two.
This is why I hate small ball and the possibility we might keep trying to get more players that fit small ball. We're not rebounding, we're getting tired down the stretch of a back to back game and now we're just settling for threes rather than driving the lane. If we're playing small we gotta attack and stop with the stupidness of travels and throwing the ball away. We just don't control the tempo the way we play.
<div class="quote_poster">hipokrat_x(LV) Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">AB has not had a monster game for a while now.. I hope this is it nice start.</div> Nice start, bad finish. This harrington at PF role has got to go next year. He gets 8 boards, 5 of them are probably a majority of his own misses. Biedrins effort and results are wasted. Pitiful. Just too many guys playing dumb and out of breath because the system has it so they have to run in order to get high % points. We can't even slow it down to our advantage. Not with the way we play inside, the way we shoot free throws, the way we fail to cycle the ball around, and the way we don't even try to run something. We just try to go about blindly and hope something happens. I'd take all those slow bastards at Duke that have a programmed mind for x's and o's over our style with superior athletes. Just give us Deng, Boozer (not Dunleavy), old Grant Hill, and that JJ Reddick guy + that dude who backs up Kirk Hinrich in Chicago. I do know that maybe because these guys are new they ain't running anything, but they still take horrible shots when no play materializes.
Thats it. I am not going to watch any more Warriors games this year. I wont start watching again until they start playing the way they are supposed to play. This is the last straw. I have been questioning for years why I am a Warriors fan. I will never be back in the bay area. Bye guys...
<div class="quote_poster">Warriorfansnc93 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Thats it. I am not going to watch any more Warriors games this year. I wont start watching again until they start playing the way they are supposed to play. This is the last straw. I have been questioning for years why I am a Warriors fan. I will never be back in the bay area. Bye guys...</div> Yeah, I'm probably going to not watch warriors basketball, until they start winning. All this pitiful play on the road just gets me upset. I will talk draft picks and trades though.
<div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, I'm probably going to not watch warriors basketball, until they start winning. All this pitiful play on the road just gets me upset. I will talk draft picks and trades though.</div> F it! Someone needs to blow up the plane on their way to Indy...
Man, I want so badly for this franchise to win and they just do the types of things that I don't like in basketball. There's just nothing in it for me anymore once that 2003-04 season ended. It's been going crappy ever since. The minute we got Baron Davis, I started thinking great! Now let's go get our selves some big men. Then besides picking good draft picks, Mullin picked his nose because he screwed up so badly on FA picks a year or two prior and mismanaged his salary so that he couldn't build on top of Bdiddy move. Part of handing out contracts is at some point in time you can move those contracts to find players that fit an immediate need or long term need. Hell, I'd take a Shane Battier player or Eddie Jones any day than the boneheadness of Pietrus, and the inconsistent, soft play of Dunleavy. I'll take old ass role players that could be good starters or were former one-time all-stars. It's better than guys that don't develop or never round out their games in time for the nba. Frustrating. It's just not good ball and I'm losing faith that guys will start changing things for long term. They just never planned well each and every losing season.
<div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nice start, bad finish. This harrington at PF role has got to go next year. He gets 8 boards, 5 of them are probably a majority of his own misses. Biedrins effort and results are wasted. Pitiful. Just too many guys playing dumb and out of breath because the system has it so they have to run in order to get high % points. We can't even slow it down to our advantage. Not with the way we play inside, the way we shoot free throws, the way we fail to cycle the ball around, and the way we don't even try to run something. We just try to go about blindly and hope something happens. I'd take all those slow bastards at Duke that have a programmed mind for x's and o's over our style with superior athletes. Just give us Deng, Boozer (not Dunleavy), old Grant Hill, and that JJ Reddick guy + that dude who backs up Kirk Hinrich in Chicago. I do know that maybe because these guys are new they ain't running anything, but they still take horrible shots when no play materializes.</div> You know what CustodianRules2, I didn't realize until the New Jersey game that the Warriors' starting lineup has three players straight out of high school, and Baron Davis who I don't recall was in college for very long, then add AB who is still 20. Maybe a problem for this team is having players that aren't able to fit roles. It seems like there may be too many players on this team who are either studs or duds, and not much in between. Maybe if they went to college they would have learned how to be that role player. I don't know, I didn't see this game, so I can't comment too much. I was going to mention how many non-colegiate playes there were on the team a couple weeks back, but I didn't find a good place for it, maybe it works well with CR2's post. So there is my food for thought on this one. Now Azubuike seems like a good role player who has college ball experience.
Only caught the 4Q of this one, but AL lost this game for us. He was just chucking 3s and clanging. He only had six points in the 4Q and the rest of the Warriors didn't do much better with ten points. You cannot win with just 16 pts in the 4Q!!! But AL lost this game for us. He's not a go to guy and he shot 3 - 11 in the 4Q. The rest of the Warriors took only 11 shots. That's just woeful. And you can't say it was the back to back. Charlotte played an away game last night. Not only that AB only got one shot in the 4Q!!!
This is disgusting, but we got the short end of the deal. Maybe not financially, but basketball wise. I wouldn't be surprised if we get our butts kicked on Monday night by Indy. It would just put a cap on this woeful season. This team just isn't very good.
<div class="quote_poster">Clif25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You know what CustodianRules2, I didn't realize until the New Jersey game that the Warriors' starting lineup has three players straight out of high school, and Baron Davis who I don't recall was in college for very long, then add AB who is still 20. Maybe a problem for this team is having players that are able to fit roles. It seems like there may be too many players on this team who are either studs or duds, and not much in between. Maybe if they went to college they would have learned how to be that role player. I don't know, I didn't see this game, so I can't comment too much. I was going to mention how many non-colegiate playes there were on the team a couple weeks back, but I didn't find a good place for it, maybe it works well with CR2's post. So there is my food for thought on this one. Now Azubuike seems like a good role player who has college ball experience.</div> Yeah, clif, I think that's part of it. My whole arguments in the past was that there needs to be not only balance in terms of position roles so we can adjust offense tempos and play defense, but balance in terms of veteran experience and guys who can make good plays. We need the inside and outside game. When one or the other is lacking the other can't support itself consistently. Defensively, we have to do the same thing with tough interior and perimeter D while trying to play help D, but not overhelp and blow their own assignment. I think bottom line is we need size. We went in with Harrington instead of Powell and although Harrington tried to make plays, he made some very dumb ones, and he also took away touches from guys who could get to the foul line a lot better. His offense just looks so blackholish and when he does post up he's fading away. He's not pump faking or trying to get to the foul line or anything. That's what makes his post footwork so lame if he's not willing to get more physical with other power forwards. Because when he does get more physical he just can't finish or gets swatted like his timing or his leg strength/balance is bad. But it's not about him either. I still got a love-hate relationshp with sjax's game and the guys backing him up (Barnes/Pietrus) really irk me. They just play so dumb or unnatural sometimes. Baron Davis needs to be a distributor, but he's got no other help other than Monta Ellis who is also a perimeter player. We just need to get that inside game going. I don't know if Biedrins is strong enough going against players bigger than him, but he's doing a terrific job considering his sudden increase in minutes. Baron is doing all he can do playing major minutes and managing to avoid getting injured. This team overall got more athletic, but they just aren't smart or polished IMO. Of those types of players, I only trust that Ellis, AZ could get better. Barnes or Pietrus I think they can't get any more what they are now. Harrington, already reached his peak a long time ago and he's no SF or PF role because when he tries to play one position he struggles doing things his position should do on defense or sometimes on offense. Sigh... I mean the last thing we need is more guys shooting threes and shooting low fg%'s. We all talked about how that would totally make this team worse if they didn't prove themselves. Yet there were some overly hopefuls on some other websites that were saying we're now a 6th seed or 8th seed by losing Murph and Duns... I called b.s.! Be realistic, fellas! Now we just need to be confident that Mullin won't make any stupid FA signings to prevent us from actually building upon a more manueverable team salary. I just don't know if he can make good enough moves to turn this franchise around in the right direction. We say that this franchise is in the right direction (or we have to get worse before we get better) but it's like making a drive to the hoop and not finishing the play! We always do this when we're on the downside and looking to be on the upside.
Anyway, I guess we should dicuss the game. Bottom line is we turned the ball over too much making not so smart plays (they were unforced turnovers like traveling and passing to the out of bounds line. They were settling for jumpers that they could not hit even when wide open. They played fatigued and couldn't manufacture anything going slower or cycling the ball down the stretch. They played an offense game, but didn't show up on defense, giving fouls and gave up many 2nd chance points (as usual) to the other team. There were some great defensive plays, but the Bobcats just kept hitting when it counted. We couldn't.
Indy is going to man-handle the Warriors like little school-girls, lol. I mean they don't even have the interior defense to handle Dunleavy, let alone J Oneal. Dunleavy is going to look like David Robinson in there, watch. Tonight Harrington was 7-20. The 7 shots he made were good shots (open threes, open jumpers). The 14 shots he missd were mostly poor shots. I don't know why people say Harrington brings an inside game because he doesn't. He has no hops. He's always flat footed. He doesn't have strong hands. He doesn't rebound well. He gets his shot blocked often, even by smaller players. He had a dunk blocked by Wallace tonight. For a guy his size he seems like he can barely dunk. Powell has a better inside game than AL. But tonight was just ugly as hell man. Everyone took turns making lame-brain plays. Barnes checked in and immediately made a silly play, chasing Wallace on the fast break and fouling him but letting him make the lay-up. Harrington had about 4 passes where he tried to look like he was cool but really they were just horrible passes for turnovers. Little no-look things that just fall out of bounds....? wtf was that? AZ looked pretty good in limited minutes. So did Powell. Andris was awesome as usual. He never forces anything. Ellis forced alot and just couldn't finish his layups. the whole team looked terrible on the fast break. They have terrible spacing and tempo. Ellis and Pietrus run full-steam while Barnes can't decide which way he wants to go and Harrington can't even dunk from 3 feet out. It's an awkward thing to watch, that GS fast break. I don't know what Nellie's plan is with refusing to play a big man at PF, but the Warriors continue to be SH!T game after game with this small ball approach. Warriors = ass
I think the best way to avoid these games is just not to watch it. I didn't watch the game and honestly, I'm not pissed. Maybe because i didn't waste my time watching them lose? But yeah...i'm sniffing out another losing season where we don't make it. If J-Rich makes it back we'll probably just go on one of those runs like we always do at the end of the season. Win useless games when its practically over
<div class="quote_poster">iLL PiLL Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think the best way to avoid these games is just not to watch it. I didn't watch the game and honestly, I'm not pissed. Maybe because i didn't waste my time watching them lose? But yeah...i'm sniffing out another losing season where we don't make it. If J-Rich makes it back we'll probably just go on one of those runs like we always do at the end of the season. Win useless games when its practically over</div> I just hope something good can come from the flexibility we should have compared to still keeping Dun and Murph under contract. I pray we get some kind of big man help for Biedrins or until POB comes along. It doesn't make any sense to play Al Harrington at PF when he's probably more effective doing the combo forward game at the 3 spot. His game looks nothing like a power forward as far as I can tell. Plus, maybe we don't rely on Pietrus/Barnes so much to make up for lack of rebounding. Meanwhile Ike goes for almost 20/10, the Pacers win. He got to the foul line and made all ft 7 attempts, with only 1 turnover, and he got a block too. On 6 of 10 shooting, he got 5 offensive rebounds. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=...?gid=2007020329
