<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The knee surgery that caused Monta Ellis to slide all the way to the Warriors in the 2005 draft has the point guard fretting all over again. Ellis said he couldn't move his left knee following a third-quarter collision with the Pacers' Danny Granger, and is day-to-day after leaving the arena on crutches Monday. "(It was) like jumping off a cliff and there's nothing there but ground," Ellis said when asked how scary his injury was. "That's where I had my surgery at. Same side. Same knee." Ellis had a knee scope to repair cartilage damage a few months before the draft, and doubts over the stability of his knee helped trigger his freefall into the second round. Though X-rays taken Monday were negative, Ellis said he wouldn't be relieved until he had an MRI exam, which should take place today. He had another major scare during the summer league when his knee gave out on a plant move, but the injury turned out to be a minor sprain. Ellis had a terrific game in place of the injured Baron Davis with 21 points and 10 rebounds -- his first career double-double -- before leaving. Point-guard woes: Davis is also back on day-to-day status after swelling in his left knee forced him to sit out the game. Davis, who was hit with leg cramps during the final minutes of Saturday's loss at Charlotte, has a bruised knee and coach Don Nelson believes his point guard could sit "a few games." Davis is waiting for swelling to decrease before getting a more thorough medical exam. Nelson plans to start Sarunas Jasikevicius at the point if both Davis and Ellis are unable to play Wednesday. "It don't feel good," said Davis, who is waiting for the swelling to decrease before getting a more thorough medical exam. "It's not helping me walk." Jackson trial to be delayed: Stephen Jackson's defense attorney said he expects his client's trial, originally scheduled to begin next Monday, to be pushed back following Wednesday's pretrial hearing in Marion County, Ill. "The state and the defense have agreed to the move the trial," attorney James Voyles said. "Stephen is a victim (in a separate case). ... He's a witness being subpoenaed by the state to testify against the man who ran over him." </div> Source
I'm really worried. We're the same record as last season at this point in time and Baron was bound to go down with injuries at some point. And now this... I'm not worried about this year, but the future.
If Ellis is worried then I am worried. The description of the play in the game thread has me shaking my head. It seems like a similar play that James Posey made, but probably even worse. I am really not a big fan of Sarunas playing PG for extended minutes for the Warriors. I really hope Baron returns vs. the TWolves if Ellis is out.
I'm not against Sarunas at pg if Ellis is unavailable. I think Sarunas is the only damned player besides Baron Davis who is clever enough to find Biedrins inside and wants to find guys inside so he can spread the floor on the kickout. Yeah, he's in Nelly's doghouse, but screw his anger. The only reason he is here because nothing else was working and we needed some kind of credibility from all those other losing coaches we hired. So we went out and crawled back on our knees to the only head coach that got us to the playoffs in recent time. And there's a reason why he got fired back then too. He's a stubborn dude and has one style of play that totally affects the roles of any future team. I think our team needs to be successful in order to win by accumulating guys who can mix it up rather than just play one way (small, with no option of halfcourt or any decent shooting or defense). I mean point forward my ass, get us a traditional power forward or traditional big man with depth. Small teams get nowhere unless their small guys actually play bigger, much bigger. That's why Dunleavy at PF failed to work, Murphy at center failed to work, and why Harrington just isn't doing that well at PF. I'm hoping we draft traditional position players that can actually run and pass it some. But those are hard to find so we really have to dig deep and find some underrated guy that no team has thought to look at yet. BTW I love Nelly, I'm just saying I hate over-reliance on small ball and I think the players he might be looking for could ruin our ability to change direction quickly and get bigger. Like what if he bombs another trade or draft trying to find Mr. Point forward rather than a guy like David Lee/Carlos Boozer who should be playing power forward instead of center in his offense. I'm really worried about that. I think if we had some kind of halfcourt presence like two Ike Diogus at PF or two Jamaal Magloires at C we could get crap done inside and support those guards we have out there. No good can come of playing two guards, two small forwards, and a pf trying to play center. That's like trying to get any high school offensive line to block for the QB against the '86 Chicago Bears. Blitz!
Actually, what the heck am I talking about? Against a pro nfl superbowl team, you could probably send one defensive player against their whole teenaged line and sack the QB singlehandedly.
<div class="quote_poster">AlleyOop Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What's the word on Monta's knee?</div> In the interview he talks about it. He says it's better and that theres no swelling.
The passing of 24 hours did much to improve the outlook for Davis and Ellis. Ellis showed up at Tuesday's practice still using the crutches he picked up after banging knees with Indiana Pacers forward Danny Granger on Monday. But after undergoing a physical therapy session in a swimming pool, Ellis was walking under his own power, albeit a little gingerly. "It's stiff and it hurts, but it's loosened up a little bit," said Ellis, who said he probably would be able to play Friday at home against the Chicago Bulls. "I'm moving pretty good." Ellis' knee was examined Monday night by the Pacers medical staff, which found no structural damage, and the Warriors decided against taking an MRI scan. ... Davis said he had made significant progress in recovering from his bruised left knee, which knocked him out of the final minutes in Charlotte on Saturday. "Hopefully I'm going to feel a lot better (today), like it did (Tuesday)," Davis said. "Maybe I could be able to do something, even if it's only some spot minutes (backing up) Jasikevicius."
<div class="quote_poster">bayareafan85 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ellis' knee was examined Monday night by the Pacers medical staff, which found no structural damage, and the Warriors decided against taking an MRI scan. ... </div> What!? wtf would you decide against taking an MRI exam, given Monta's history with that knee? That's rediculous. Perhaps they wanted to wait and do the MRI with a different medical staff? I don't get it
<div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not against Sarunas at pg if Ellis is unavailable. I think Sarunas is the only damned player besides Baron Davis who is clever enough to find Biedrins inside and wants to find guys inside so he can spread the floor on the kickout. Yeah, he's in Nelly's doghouse, but screw his anger. The only reason he is here because nothing else was working and we needed some kind of credibility from all those other losing coaches we hired. So we went out and crawled back on our knees to the only head coach that got us to the playoffs in recent time. And there's a reason why he got fired back then too. He's a stubborn dude and has one style of play that totally affects the roles of any future team. I think our team needs to be successful in order to win by accumulating guys who can mix it up rather than just play one way (small, with no option of halfcourt or any decent shooting or defense). </div> I am not against Sarunas starting if Baron and Monta are out. I just don't anticipate the sight of it. Sarunas is a HORRIBLE defender. He makes Dunleavy look like an all league defender. Plus he can't run an up tempo game. Hopefully he has the offensive system down better than before. I think Sarunas can give the team some good production, but in a limited role mostly because of his bad defense and if he is to be the PG, then because he is a bit too slow. I don't have a problem with Sarunas coming in and trying to get some shots to go down because he is a good shooter, or if he tried to start some things from the point position, such as the pick 'n' roll which he is good at, in the slowed paced set. I feel like I am being a bit extreme on the negative side, but seriously, I have not been greatly impressed with Sarunas playing the PG position for the Warriors. I saw this when they played the Nets. Jason Kidd had a field day. It is good to hear that there is improvement in the conditions of Baron and Ellis. That is a decent start. It's still a bit displeasing though. No JRich, no Ellis, and maybe a hobbled Baron Davis...ouch.
Why does this year sound exactly like last year? We got rid of Fisher, we got rid of Murphy and Dunleavy, but it still seems like the same ol S. I bet if we compare topics, we'll have three seasons of overlapping discussions, maybe some stuff even word for word.
<div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why does this year sound exactly like last year? We got rid of Fisher, we got rid of Murphy and Dunleavy, but it still seems like the same ol S. I bet if we compare topics, we'll have three seasons of overlapping discussions, maybe some stuff even word for word.</div> I think I had similar ideas a couple of days ago. There just seems to be repeats of the same season over and over again. The constant phrase out of all of them is "just a couple more seasons and then..." this team will be playoff bound for sure. I am really out of ideas. My last hope is that they actually turn it around this season and continue to compete for playoff positioning. But on ESPN they keep showing how losing 15 in a row is good for getting the top pick and some awesome players like LeBron, Howard, and I think Yao. Maybe that should have been the plan years ago. But we can't go back now. Now maybe Boston will get Oden. Pierce + Oden = pretty darn good at least in theory.
I just saw some highlights of the Sonics and Pacers game. Similar play but this time Earl Watson was driving to the hoop and Danny Granger again tries to draw a charge and ends up under-cutting Watson. Watson was banged up but played through it
