Jameer Nelson

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  1. GatorsowntheNCAA

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    We need to get rid of him while he has any kind of trade value. Please try to trade Hill and Jameer for a distributing PG. IMO, Jameer is the reason why we are in a slump. He needs to realize that he is a POINT GUARD and POINT GUARDS are supposed to DISTRIBUTE the ball especially when your 2 bigs are a combined 18-26(69.2%). WHY THE HELL DO YOU JACK UP 19 SHOTS????????? Absolutely no sense. Our point guards were a combined 10-29(34.5%). So of course they continue to jack it up when we obviously have a big advantage downlow. ABSOLUTELY STUPID.
     
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    Why not go after brevin knight before the trade deadline. He is a great passers and a pretty decent PG. Jameer can be instant offense off the bench, i think he'll be great.
     
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    Brevin Knight would be the perfect PG for us.
     
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    Do you think Ortis will be smart enought to get him? He's definitely a great fit, but some how i dont think we'll make the move.. I guess we can hope [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">JMEWLS Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Do you think Ortis will be smart enought to get him? He's definitely a great fit, but some how i dont think we'll make the move.. I guess we can hope [​IMG]</div>

    I don't know exactly what the Bobcats would be looking for for him. He's currently the backup right with Felton starting?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">GatorsowntheNCAA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know exactly what the Bobcats would be looking for for him. He's currently the backup right with Felton starting?</div>

    Would they do Dooling + Garrity + future 2nd pick for Knight? would that even work under the cap? I dunno, maybe package Knight with Gerald Wallace and a few scrubs for Hill and Arroyo.

    I would do that trade to get wallace, as much as i dont wanna let go of hill.
     
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    Gerald Wallace is one of the most underrated players, I don't see them doing that trade at all. Maybe they would do Jameer/Hill/2nd for Wallace and Knight, but even I doubt that. I don't know exactly what the Bobcats need, but I would assume they would want a little help for the future in the wing positions.
     
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    i really like brevin knight.. he gets the job done. He could maybe come cheap to us as well
     
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    I doubt the Bobcats would trade away a veteran behind their up and coming player, for another up and coming PG. They already have Felton.

    I think it was earlier in the season, someone said Jason Kidd. [​IMG]

    I would love Kidd on this team, that would be absolutely insane.

    Also NCAA, you want Jameer gone? I would rather part ways with Dooling and/or Arroyo than him. Atleast Jameer keeps the offense flowing. Arroyo will hog the ball for most of the shot clock, then perform a running jumper that usually misses. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">The One & Only Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I doubt the Bobcats would trade away a veteran behind their up and coming player, for another up and coming PG. They already have Felton.

    I think it was earlier in the season, someone said Jason Kidd. [​IMG]

    I would love Kidd on this team, that would be absolutely insane.

    Also NCAA, you want Jameer gone? I would rather part ways with Dooling and/or Arroyo than him. Atleast Jameer keeps the offense flowing. Arroyo will hog the ball for most of the shot clock, then perform a running jumper that usually misses. [​IMG]</div>

    I am sick and tired of Jameer looking down to Dwight who has great positioning then either jacking up a shot or passing around the perimeter. Seriously, when your superstar has set a record for highest FG % in a 3 game span of a person not named Wilt and is shooting 11-15 for the game, what is the reason for jacking up 19 shots when you only make 6 of them? He has been almost as bad as Arroyo in setting up the offense, IMO.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">GatorsowntheNCAA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I am sick and tired of Jameer looking down to Dwight who has great positioning then either jacking up a shot or passing around the perimeter. Seriously, when your superstar has set a record for highest FG % in a 3 game span of a person not named Wilt and is shooting 11-15 for the game, what is the reason for jacking up 19 shots when you only make 6 of them? He has been almost as bad as Arroyo in setting up the offense, IMO.</div>

    Jameer can only run the plays Brian Hill calls, I'm not saying none of it is Jameers fault but alot of it has to be put on Brian Hill. I mean before we got Arroyo he was a """Disributing"""" Pg but look at what he has turned into in Hill system IMO it is really obvious that coach Hill doesn't trust his bigs Howard, Darko and Battie don't get nearly as many shots as our 1-3 position players that has to be put on coaching IMO
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheHighness Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Jameer can only run the plays Brian Hill calls, I'm not saying none of it is Jameers fault but alot of it has to be put on Brian Hill. I mean before we got Arroyo he was a """Disributing"""" Pg but look at what he has turned into in Hill system IMO it is really obvious that coach Hill doesn't trust his bigs Howard, Darko and Battie don't get nearly as many shots as our 1-3 position players that has to be put on coaching IMO</div>

    That's what I originally thought, but watching the last few games(minus the Spurs game) I've come to the realization that Jameer is supposed to pass downlow, but doesn't. He looks down towards Dwight/Darko/Battie like that's where he should go, they have good position and then for some reason he passes it around the perimeter or jacks up a jumper. I don't think Brian Hill draws up a play where Jameer looks down to Dwight, but doesn't pass and then Jameer jacks up the jump shot. It's not just Jameer either, I hate Arroyo too.

    I want Diener starting, mainly because he does pass and he can hit that open shot(if Brian Hill does in fact call a play where the PG dribbles up the court and jacks it up without passing).

    Screw SG, PG is our biggest need right now. Something needs to change so that Dwight can continue to get the touches.
     
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    How about trying to sign Billups in the off season? He's a free agent next year. He makes smart decisions on the court and will feed the ball to Howard in the right spots. Plus he's friends with Darko and will help improve his game too.

    For now, just keep reminding Keyon Dooling that he's not a superstar and take your losses with Jameer Nelson.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">GatorsowntheNCAA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's what I originally thought, but watching the last few games(minus the Spurs game) I've come to the realization that Jameer is supposed to pass downlow, but doesn't. He looks down towards Dwight/Darko/Battie like that's where he should go, they have good position and then for some reason he passes it around the perimeter or jacks up a jumper. I don't think Brian Hill draws up a play where Jameer looks down to Dwight, but doesn't pass and then Jameer jacks up the jump shot. It's not just Jameer either, I hate Arroyo too.

    I want Diener starting, mainly because he does pass and he can hit that open shot(if Brian Hill does in fact call a play where the PG dribbles up the court and jacks it up without passing).

    Screw SG, PG is our biggest need right now. Something needs to change so that Dwight can continue to get the touches.</div>

    If Jameer is supposed to pass down low to Dwight then (which I'm not disputing either way) it has to fall on the Coach to make sure that happens Jameer is the pg but as the Coach Hill needs to have control of his player. I like Diener but to make him the starting pg would be a horrible mistake, he's just not ready for that right now IMO. He just hasn't played enough against other Quality Pg most of the time hes in it's against 2nd or 3rd string players you can't really judge him on that. IMO Jameer is the best pg we have right now and just remember this is only his 3rd year and he is still developing just like Dwight.
     

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