JVG: "I refuse to play them (Bonzi & Snyder) together"

JVG: "I refuse to play them (Bonzi & Snyder) together"

I read an article today in the Houston Chronicle where JVG stated he refuses to play Bonzi & Snyder at the same time. I wonder what ya'll's opinion on that might be.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4544954.html

Personally, I have to disagree with him saying that. We signed all these players in the offseason to contribute, not sit on the bench. What's the value of having depth if ur never gonna use it? It's pointless. Right now with both almost healthy, we should take advantage of that ASAP. Both can get to the basket, both rebound, and both can defend. I think the rotation should be tweaked a little. Instead, JVG says he "refuses to play both at the same time" without even giving it a shot

NOTE:With Skip and Head playin up & down this season, I think the thought should atleast be on the table.

 

Maybe because they are not good 3 point shooters? I don't know. I disagree, because these are the only 2 guys on the team that wont hesitate to take it to the basket. That's something JVG should love about them, but I guess not.

If T-Mac is out that game, and Head needs rest, does that mean he will put in V-Span, JL3, and Padgett before he puts those two in together?

I guess he just wants them to compete with each other for playing time.

 

You're taking this too literally. Obviously JVG doesn't mean that he'd bench one for the other. Whichever one's hot and contributing that night, that one will play. Both are below-average shooters, and both are of the same height, but when you're playing Snyder at shooting guard with Wells at small forward and Alston/Lucas at the point; defenses would just cave in on Wells.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Locke Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You're taking this too literally. Obviously JVG doesn't mean that he'd bench one for the other. Whichever one's hot and contributing that night, that one will play. Both are below-average shooters, and both are of the same height, but when you're playing Snyder at shooting guard with Wells at small forward and Alston/Lucas at the point; defenses would just cave in on Wells.</div>

Yea, I see what you're saying about the defense caving in on Wells, it makes sense, but if that does happen Kirk would take it to the rim and at least get the foul called, or Alston would get an open look from 3.

Umm, I don't know. Bonzi had a pretty good mid range (about 12-19ish) jumper and turn around last season. If he can get back to his old form, I would call him an above average shooter.

Snyder is 6-6, Bonzi is 6-5.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Locke Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You're taking this too literally. Obviously JVG doesn't mean that he'd bench one for the other. Whichever one's hot and contributing that night, that one will play. Both are below-average shooters, and both are of the same height, but when you're playing Snyder at shooting guard with Wells at small forward and Alston/Lucas at the point; defenses would just cave in on Wells.</div>
Who cares about them not shooting considerbley well. We BOTH know Bonzi and Snyder are both SCORERS who will rebound, defend, and get to the free throw line. If JVG can find away to get Chuck Hayes minutes, he can definatley find away to get Bonzi and Snyder on the court together. It's JVG's biggest weakness. His lack of offensive creativity. I'd love to see a line up of:

Tmac
Head
Snyder
Bonzi
Howard

That's a pretty tough line up right there. What JVG's sayin is he won't play them at the same time, meaning that he's narrowing his options by not playin one. I don't understand this logic. Our offense goes into these funks too often. With Bonzi and Snyder they'll both change that instantly. It's like JVG forces himself to choose between Snyder and Bonzi when he could just play both. There both talented players, why not get the most out of that

 

How exactly will we combat the zone with that lineup? When you have pretty much three penetrators on the court and just one three-point shooter with no legimitate passer, defenses can just play us off the drive.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Who cares about them not shooting considerbley well. We BOTH know Bonzi and Snyder are both SCORERS who will rebound, defend, and get to the free throw line. If JVG can find away to get Chuck Hayes minutes, he can definatley find away to get Bonzi and Snyder on the court together. It's JVG's biggest weakness. His lack of offensive creativity. I'd love to see a line up of:

Tmac
Head
Snyder
Bonzi
Howard

That's a pretty tough line up right there. What JVG's sayin is he won't play them at the same time, meaning that he's narrowing his options by not playin one. I don't understand this logic. Our offense goes into these funks too often. With Bonzi and Snyder they'll both change that instantly. It's like JVG forces himself to choose between Snyder and Bonzi when he could just play both. There both talented players, why not get the most out of that</div>

Undersized, no true point guard, and only one percentage 3-point shooter. The rebounding and interior defense will be crap.

Balance wins. You can't just throw together players that have some skills and assume it will work out on the court. I'd like Snyder to get more playing time, but if he does it will have to come at the expense of Bonzi or Luther.

 

<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Undersized, no true point guard, and only one percentage 3-point shooter. The rebounding and interior defense will be crap.</div>
No. Think logical. You have Tmac running the point creating. Head's 3pt threat, while Bonzi and Snyder attack the rim. Either Battier or Howard can play center. That line up consist of A)A creator, facilitator of offense. B)3pt threat C)Low Post & Midrange threats D)quickness at every position (slashing, fast break etc..). We'd also get to the free throw line more with that line up. Both Snyder & Bonzi are rebounding fowards and Tmac can help that.

I KNOW you didn't throw the word "undersized" out there, after all the support you put in Chuck Hayes.

<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Balance wins. You can't just throw together players that have some skills and assume it will work out on the court. I'd like Snyder to get more playing time, but if he does it will have to come at the expense of Bonzi or Luther.</div>
Luther has shot great. But he often gets outta control and needs to sit on the bench for stretches. JVG has left him (and Skip) out there for too long during dry spells. Why couldn't we try something different? With Bonzi and Snyder on the court, we'll be able to get to the rim with ease. It's a wonderful lineup.

<div class="quote_poster">Locke Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">How exactly will we combat the zone with that lineup? When you have pretty much three penetrators on the court and just one three-point shooter with no legimitate passer, defenses can just play us off the drive.</div>
Tmac's not a legitimate passer? He's the best passer on the team Bonzi's not a bad midrange shooter either and Kurk's a great slasher. If Tmac's doubled, both will get to the rim at will.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No. Think logical. You have Tmac running the point creating. Head's 3pt threat, while Bonzi and Snyder attack the rim. Either Battier or Howard can play center. That line up consist of A)A creator, facilitator of offense. B)3pt threat C)Low Post & Midrange threats D)quickness at every position (slashing, fast break etc..). We'd also get to the free throw line more with that line up. Both Snyder & Bonzi are rebounding fowards and Tmac can help that.</div>You tell him to think logical, yet that's what you're not doing. TMac is not a point guard, plain and simple. I don't care how good of a passer he is, he's not a point guard. He doesn't have the instincts to play that position. It takes a lot more than passing capability to play the spot, apparently something you don't realize. Next, why in the hell would you put Battier in the post? You're taking your best perimeter shooter and defender and putting him at the 5? That makes no sense. I don't care how good of a defender he is, but if he's in the post against someone like a Lamar Odom or Amare Stoudemire, he doesn't stand a chance. He may be physical, but those guys are much longer and much taller and would kill him on the blocks. As for the rest of it, it just in general makes no sense. You'd have no true center, power forward, or point guard. You'd be running with a team full of 2s and 3s. You'd get destroyed by the more physical teams and there'd be no way in hell you'd be outrebounding teams like the Spurs or the Mavs either.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Luther has shot great. But he often gets outta control and needs to sit on the bench for stretches. JVG has left him (and Skip) out there for too long during dry spells. Why couldn't we try something different? With Bonzi and Snyder on the court, we'll be able to get to the rim with ease. It's a wonderful lineup.</div>It's anything but wonderful. As I stated a earlier, it's a team full of 2s and 3s and there's no way you'd be able to defend the more physical teams in the NBA. While it might create some matchup issues offensively, it creates mismatches on defense that aren't even close to being in your favor. And you could throw rebounding out the window too, especially against taller teams. If you don't make the jump shot or whatever you may shoot, it'd be one and done, while the opponent would be getting offensive rebounds at the other end and killing you with second chance points simply because you have zero height.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Tmac's not a legitimate passer? He's the best passer on the team Bonzi's not a bad midrange shooter either and Kurk's a great slasher. If Tmac's doubled, both will get to the rim at will.</div>Legit passer or not, he's still not a point guard. And just cause a double team is caused doesn't mean anything. And personally, I wouldn't be worried about you getting to the rim, I'd worry about you're going to stop other teams from getting there. With no big guy in the lineup to defend the post, teams would have a field day in the post and on the offensive glass, pretty much negating anything you might do effectively on offense.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You tell him to think logical, yet that's what you're not doing. TMac is not a point guard, plain and simple. I don't care how good of a passer he is, he's not a point guard. He doesn't have the instincts to play that position. It takes a lot more than passing capability to play the spot, apparently something you don't realize. Next, why in the hell would you put Battier in the post? You're taking your best perimeter shooter and defender and putting him at the 5? That makes no sense. I don't care how good of a defender he is, but if he's in the post against someone like a Lamar Odom or Amare Stoudemire, he doesn't stand a chance. He may be physical, but those guys are much longer and much taller and would kill him on the blocks. As for the rest of it, it just in general makes no sense. You'd have no true center, power forward, or point guard. You'd be running with a team full of 2s and 3s. You'd get destroyed by the more physical teams and there'd be no way in hell you'd be outrebounding teams like the Spurs or the Mavs either. </div>
Ur first statement informs me you haven't watched a Rocket game in ur life. Tmac's natural position is SG/SF, but if you haven't noticed he's already playin point guard for us thru stretches. As a matter of fact, he's actually been very effective running the point. Try again

With that said, we're only talkin about brief stretches of the game. You mention Phoenix and Dallas, which baffled me because their both NOTORIOUS for playin extremley small quick lineups. So ur argument that we'll get overpowered is useless, especially against teams who've literally played 4 guards against us at one time. Simple basketball knowledge......

<div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">[It's anything but wonderful. As I stated a earlier, it's a team full of 2s and 3s and there's no way you'd be able to defend the more physical teams in the NBA. While it might create some matchup issues offensively, it creates mismatches on defense that aren't even close to being in your favor. And you could throw rebounding out the window too, especially against taller teams. If you don't make the jump shot or whatever you may shoot, it'd be one and done, while the opponent would be getting offensive rebounds at the other end and killing you with second chance points simply because you have zero height.</div>
Again.....The best teams in the league go small. Bein a Rocket fan, I shouldn't have to tell you that's our biggest match up problem. We don't have a problem matchin up with bigger teams. It's when teams go small that gives us problems. I'm suprised you'd even come in here and not do ur homework.

<div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">[Legit passer or not, he's still not a point guard. And just cause a double team is caused doesn't mean anything. And personally, I wouldn't be worried about you getting to the rim, I'd worry about you're going to stop other teams from getting there. With no big guy in the lineup to defend the post, teams would have a field day in the post and on the offensive glass, pretty much negating anything you might do effectively on offense.</div>
Legit passer? He's our BEST PASSER (and playmaker). On some nights he's even our BEST BALL HANDLER. So you obviously have know idea what ur sayin. Rebounding and defense isn't a problem with that line up either, both Bonzi and Snyder are solid rebounders. Bonzi's already playin PF, and Snyder can slide down to play either SG or SF. Snyder is an excellent defender, and Bonzi's solid. So ur argument holds no weight

 

<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">With that said, we're only talkin about brief stretches of the game. You mention Phoenix and Dallas, which baffled me because their both NOTORIOUS for playin extremley small quick lineups. So ur argument that we'll get overpowered is useless, especially against teams who've literally played 4 guards against us at one time. Simple basketball knowledge......</div>And while both those teams play small, 90% of the time they have a legit big on the court. With the lineup you proposed, Amare and Dirk would have a field day against the Rockets. Hell, even Dampier might look like an All Star against a lineup like that.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Again.....The best teams in the league go small. Bein a Rocket fan, I shouldn't have to tell you that's our biggest match up problem. We don't have a problem matchin up with bigger teams. It's when teams go small that gives us problems. I'm suprised you'd even come in here and not do ur homework.</div>And again, when the Suns and Mavs go small (since that's who you're implying) they typically have Amare and Dirk on the court. You apparently don't do your homework. Both of them, as previously stated, would murder your proposed frontline, it wouldn't even be a contest.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Legit passer? He's our BEST PASSER (and playmaker). On some nights he's even our BEST BALL HANDLER. So you obviously have know idea what ur sayin. Rebounding and defense isn't a problem with that line up either, both Bonzi and Snyder are solid rebounders. Bonzi's already playin PF, and Snyder can slide down to play either SG or SF. Snyder is an excellent defender, and Bonzi's solid. So ur argument holds no weight</div>I don't see how you can't say rebounding would be a problem. Bonzi and Kirk are good rebounders FOR THEIR POSITION, that doesn't mean they could even come close to competing on the boards with someone like Tim Duncan or even Lamar Odom. And don't even get me started on defense. I don't care how adequate of a defender they are, they can't defend the post against the likes of someone like Elton Brand, Lamar Odom, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, etc., it just wouldn't happen. So, while you think I don't know what I'm talking about, I most certainly do. My argument holds a whole lot of weight, you just won't accept it.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ur first statement informs me you haven't watched a Rocket game in ur life. Tmac's natural position is SG/SF, but if you haven't noticed he's already playin point guard for us thru stretches. As a matter of fact, he's actually been very effective running the point. Try again
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I know everyone is a rafer hater....but hes our point guard. Only reason you think that Tmac runs point is because he gets so many touches.

<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
With that said, we're only talkin about brief stretches of the game. You mention Phoenix and Dallas, which baffled me because their both NOTORIOUS for playin extremley small quick lineups. So ur argument that we'll get overpowered is useless, especially against teams who've literally played 4 guards against us at one time. Simple basketball knowledge......
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Sure..why not throw out our entire playstyle in adoption of another. However much you want us to be an offensive team, WE ARE THE NUMBER 1 DEFENSIVE TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. We are there for a reason. You are going to sacrifice much on defence for a minimal gain on offense.

<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
Again.....The best teams in the league go small. Bein a Rocket fan, I shouldn't have to tell you that's our biggest match up problem. We don't have a problem matchin up with bigger teams. It's when teams go small that gives us problems. I'm suprised you'd even come in here and not do ur homework.
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So you are saying lets scrap our big men in favor of a smaller lineup because it works for other teams? Ok..lets trade away Yao Ming and go smaller.

<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
Legit passer? He's our BEST PASSER (and playmaker). On some nights he's even our BEST BALL HANDLER. So you obviously have know idea what ur sayin. Rebounding and defense isn't a problem with that line up either, both Bonzi and Snyder are solid rebounders. Bonzi's already playin PF, and Snyder can slide down to play either SG or SF. Snyder is an excellent defender, and Bonzi's solid. So ur argument holds no weight</div>

Sorry...but Rafer is our best passer. I know everyone likes to jump on the hate Rafer bandwagon...but that is the simple truth. Rebounding is a huge problem...they are only good rebounders for their positions. You start mixing up the positions, this creates problems for everyone. As JVG said...it will become too muddled. Why make things more complex? We have the 5th best record WITHOUT YAO. If you are worried about Dallas, Yao would create matchup problems. The only reason why Dallas was able to go "small" is simply because we don't have Yao in the middle to exploit that. Yao will create matchup problems for dallas.

 

The other issue with that lineup is you'd have no way to combat the zone defense. Without a post scorer, they can just zone up and force you into jump shots. Without a big guy in the middle to draw a double to or to simply feed the ball in the post, you'd be stuck on the perimeter the entire time that lineup is on the court. You could try and slash to the lane, but again, what good is it going to do? You'll kick it back outside and shoot a jump shot. Big whoop. You can say that you could rotate the ball to the outside and go back inside, but if you're playing a team like Detroit or any other good defensive squad, good luck with that. Those teams are good enough to reset their zone defense and force the jump shot. I just don't see how that lineup would work. The offense would be forced to shoot jumpers if the opponent zoned, and on defense, yea....the opponents would be crashing the offensive glass and getting 2nd and 3rd chances pretty much at will.

 

I think having 4 guards on the floor and run 'n gunning would be too big a contrast the the style JVG has been trying to run.

It would be like Phoenix adopting the Rocket's gameplan and pace.

 

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Tmac's not a legitimate passer? He's the best passer on the team Bonzi's not a bad midrange shooter either and Kurk's a great slasher. If Tmac's doubled, both will get to the rim at will.</div>Why would you want TMac passing the ball when he's the best scoring threat out there? The whole point of the zone is to prevent penetration, so how exactly will Kirk Snyder be effective? With no viable outside threat besides Head, teams can just collapse on Bonzi or Howard in the post and take their chance with Snyder, Head or TMac attempting a three. Ball movement is the best way to break a zone defense but with that lineup swinging the ball around the perimeter won't even work that well.

 

<div class="quote_poster">foo82 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I know everyone is a rafer hater....but hes our point guard. Only reason you think that Tmac runs point is because he gets so many touches.</div>
I think? Are u serious? It's a widely known FACT that Tmac spots minutes at point for us. You didn't know that? It's not somethin I just threw out there, he's BEEN playin significant minutes at PG. Where have you been?


<div class="quote_poster">foo82 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Sure..why not throw out our entire playstyle in adoption of another. However much you want us to be an offensive team, WE ARE THE NUMBER 1 DEFENSIVE TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. We are there for a reason. You are going to sacrifice much on defence for a minimal gain on offense.</div>
It's called DIVERSITY Foo. Phoenix, Dallas & San Antonio all have it. We don't. Just because we're a good defense doesn't mean we can't adjust on offense. If you haven't noticed, our offense has too many dry spells. Just watchin the Dallas game should further prove my point. Our defense was alright until we couldn't score. With Bonzi & Snyder that helps us significantly.

<div class="quote_poster">foo82 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry...but Rafer is our best passer. I know everyone likes to jump on the hate Rafer bandwagon...but that is the simple truth. Rebounding is a huge problem...they are only good rebounders for their positions. You start mixing up the positions, this creates problems for everyone. As JVG said...it will become too muddled. Why make things more complex? We have the 5th best record WITHOUT YAO. If you are worried about Dallas, Yao would create matchup problems. The only reason why Dallas was able to go "small" is simply because we don't have Yao in the middle to exploit that. Yao will create matchup problems for dallas.</div>
I know ur a loyal Rafer fan but c'mon dude. Tmac's our best passer, best distributor & best creator. Rafer has his momments, but he's sloppy at times. Even with Yao, Phoenix & Dallas give us problems. It's obvious we have to better counter their quickness.

<div class="quote_poster">Locke Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why would you want TMac passing the ball when he's the best scoring threat out there? The whole point of the zone is to prevent penetration, so how exactly will Kirk Snyder be effective? With no viable outside threat besides Head, teams can just collapse on Bonzi or Howard in the post and take their chance with Snyder, Head or TMac attempting a three. Ball movement is the best way to break a zone defense but with that lineup swinging the ball around the perimeter won't even work that well.</div>
There are multiple ways of beating a zone. Depending on 3's every nite isn't gonna win a championship. We need to find different ways to win. If Tmac's creating, we're gonna get any shot we want. Just a matter of who's on the court.


<div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And while both those teams play small, 90% of the time they have a legit big on the court. With the lineup you proposed, Amare and Dirk would have a field day against the Rockets. Hell, even Dampier might look like an All Star against a lineup like that.</div>
I'm disappointed at ur lack of Rocket knowledge. Each game we've played against Dallas this year, Dirk's been guarded by Battier (and Howard). The fact is, Dirk's been anything BUT spectactular. So if you think player's like Dirk would "have a field day" against Battier, then thus far ur completley mistaken. Battier can guard Dirk as good as ANYBODY in the league. Howard always plays Dirk well too.

<div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And again, when the Suns and Mavs go small (since that's who you're implying) they typically have Amare and Dirk on the court. You apparently don't do your homework. Both of them, as previously stated, would murder your proposed frontline, it wouldn't even be a contest.</div>
Once again, you haven't done ur homework son. Battier ALREADY held Dirk, and he's really never had a great game against us. On the other hand, JOSH HOWARD has killed us in every game this year. Keep in mind, Bonzi hasn't played against Dallas and Snyder played very little. So we still have yet to play our most athletic bench players.

<div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't see how you can't say rebounding would be a problem. Bonzi and Kirk are good rebounders FOR THEIR POSITION, that doesn't mean they could even come close to competing on the boards with someone like Tim Duncan or even Lamar Odom. And don't even get me started on defense. I don't care how adequate of a defender they are, they can't defend the post against the likes of someone like Elton Brand, Lamar Odom, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, etc., it just wouldn't happen. So, while you think I don't know what I'm talking about, I most certainly do. My argument holds a whole lot of weight, you just won't accept it.</div>
Lamar Odom? C'mon, you have to be kiddin. Odom's a very solid player, but Snyder can defend him as good as anybody. Bonzi's currently playin PF RIGHT NOW, and he's rebounding well. So once again, you're totally clueless of reality

 

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There are multiple ways of beating a zone. Depending on 3's every nite isn't gonna win a championship. We need to find different ways to win. If Tmac's creating, we're gonna get any shot we want. Just a matter of who's on the court.</div>List the ways of beating the zone then.

Fact is, when you're facing a zone and don't swing the ball around fast enough, you'll be basically solely depending on the three.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Locke Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">List the ways of beating the zone then. </div>

Ball Movement

Dribble Penetration

Slashing

Post up

Pick N Roll

<div class="quote_poster">Locke Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Fact is, when you're facing a zone and don't swing the ball around fast enough, you'll be basically solely depending on the three.</div>
Not always the case. Especially on a good team. If ur forced to take 3's from zone, ur prolly settling for that. Any zone can be broken...........

 

If you don't even know what the purposes of a zone is, then I don't think I should waste my time.

A zone means that every defensive player guards a certain area on the court, and does not follow a specific offensive player. It is "effective in stopping dribble penetration and one-on-one moves", and "protects the paint area and force the opponent to shoot from outside."

Basically, what that means is slashing and dribble penetration (they're the same thing, anyways) will be rendered pretty much useless because as the offensive player gets into the key, he'll be faced with lots of help defense. A good zone rotates quickly and when a player steps up to help a penetrator in his zone, another defender quickly slides over to cover his teammate's assigned zone. Therefore, the only way an offense can beat the zone is by swinging the ball around quickly and getting it to the open man before a defender can rotate. Another way would just be shooting, as zone defenses tend to sag in towards the paint and leave ample room beyond the three-point line.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ball Movement

Dribble Penetration

Slashing

Post up

Pick N Roll


Not always the case. Especially on a good team. If ur forced to take 3's from zone, ur prolly settling for that. Any zone can be broken...........</div>

Out of those....the only one effective in beating the zone is ball movement. Zone is meant to combat the other four...

<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
I think? Are u serious? It's a widely known FACT that Tmac spots minutes at point for us. You didn't know that? It's not somethin I just threw out there, he's BEEN playin significant minutes at PG. Where have you been?
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Another statement that shows yo dont know what the hell you are talking about.
Tmac rarely runs point for us. It has always been either Rafer or Head. Running the point requries you to bring up the ball and setup the offense. Tmac has always been the transition guy. Either the ball ends up with him shooting, or it ends up with him passing. If you played him at point, you would have the defense focused on him to begin with. You would also create an offensive setup in which it would be difficult for him to score in.


I don't know where the loyal Rafer fan comment came from. All I said was he was a good passer. He is less also turnover proned then Mcgrady. The main concern that everyone shares about rafer (me included) is the fact that he shoots too many shots.
You do NOT want to put the burden of a point guard at Mcgrady. The whole point is to let Mcgrady score.

As people mention earlier, the zone will tear the offense apart. If Mcgrady draws a double team and he passes out, its going to be wasted because your lineup consists of only one person with an outside shot. Don't even compare this offense to Phoenix. Phoenix is surrounded by 3 point shooters WHICH CAN TEAR DOWN ZONE DEFENSE. Same applies to Dallas. The lineup you propse only has one legit 3 point threat.
Also..whos going to rebound against the more physical guys big guys? It sure as hell isnt going to be Juwan.