Cam'ron Fires back at 50 Cent

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  1. Notorious

    Notorious JBB Fear is Death

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Following 50 Cent's recently released a diss video "Funeral Music" aimed at Dipset Don Cam'ron, Cam has returned fire at the G-Unit boss in a song entitled "Cuurrttiissss."
    "Funeral Music" opens with a hearse rolling by with the words "Cam'ron's Career" on it and later mimics both Jim Jones' "We Fly High" as well as mocking the incident in which Cam's blue Lamborghini was shot up during Howard University's homecoming weekend on Washington,D.C.

    In the song [listen here] Cam takes several shots at 50 including his appearance, rhyming, "He looks like a gorilla, with rabbit teeth." Cam also shouts out who he feels is a "real" dude from Queens, Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff with lines like "he ran from police/you run with police/you ain't from South Side/ 'bout to get your mouth wide."

    The song's chorus includes the Dipset leader echoing "Cuurtiiis" throughout and addresses fellow Dipset members' Juelz Santana and Jim Jones' album sales, while also clarifying their respected roles in the crew, "Jimmy ain't the president, he's the CEO...Juelz the underboss...I sign off like Dr. Dre" </div>
    "A gorilla with rabbit teeth"[​IMG]

    Heres the vid that 50 dissed Cam with.
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  2. Mr. J

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    Cam should be able to take on 50. I think 50 lost all credibility going at various New York rappers: Nas, Fat Joe, Jadakiss, and now Cam. I thought it was pretty weak using the Paid in Full scene at the end, especially 50 is known as a snitch. In his Ghetto Qu'ran he snitched on several people in his "hood", which is pretty ironic.

    First Verse:

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yo, when you hear talk of the southside, you hear talk of the team
    See niggas feared Prince and respected Preme
    For all you slow muthafuckas I'm a break it down iller
    See Preme was a business man and Prince was the killer
    Remember, he used to push the bulletproof BM, uh huh
    This here get ya seasick, I sat back and peeped ****
    The roll with Easy Rider and they ain't get blunted
    Had the whole projects workin for fifty on five-hundred
    As a youth, all I ever did was sell crack
    I used to idolize cat
    Heart me in my heart to hear that ***** snitched on Pat, how he go out like
    that?
    Rumors in the hood was ?? was snitchin
    I ain't believe that, pa, he helped me cop my first GSX-R
    Had the four-runner, the Z, the 5 and the 3
    Used to drive his truck through the hood draggin jet skis
    From Gerald Wallace to Baby Wise, don't be suprised
    Of how freely I thought of names of games who dealt with pies
    Like L-A-N-Y's, L got shot in the neck, then told us connect
    Them niggas who shot 'em got 'em for ten bricks
    Fuckin Dominicans, turned around and gave 'em more bricks </div>

    Second Verse:

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">That first verse is just a dose of the **** that I'm on
    Consider this the first chapter in the ghetto's Quran
    I know a lot of niggas that get dough like Remmy and Joe
    And Prince and Rightous from Hillside with the mole on his nose
    Throughout my struggles through the hood, I started learnin
    Life's a bitch, with a pretty face, but she burnin
    Man I'm a get cheese like Chaz then run through wips like Cigar
    Gamble all the time like country-curly head Prince and Tata
    Po-po under pressure too, they know what they facin
    Go against crews like B-Bo and killers like Pappy Mason
    A lotta niggas I know been corrupted since birth
    Enticed to rob nuns for fun, for everything they worth
    I know some cats that hail at old complexes like Cooley Wall
    Together niggas stand and divided they fall
    Round here, shook niggas they keep it in motion
    Come around here with your rollie you can get robbed like Ocean
    Lord knows, Tommy had loved and sold
    Helicopters, Rolls Royces with Louie VaTonne interior
    Might sound like I'm fantasizin, but son I'm dead serious
    Montanna was no dummy, brought Benice to watch the money
    Had money out the ass, he politic like the Asian
    FEDs couldn't catch him dirty so settled for tax evasion
    </div>

    Third Verse:

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yo, rest in peace to Rich and Ron, money what they was about yo
    The twins was some queens but got crazy cream with Alpo
    Throughout my time I heard tales of Himey, Frenchy, Jamaican Pauly, Ducky
    Cally

    Rodney Bump and Chick, ****
    A lot a niggas flow the way I flow
    but ain't been in the game all their life so don't know who I know
    Writin rhymes is the best way I express how I feel
    If I ain't rich by twenty-six, I'll be dead or in jail
    Comin up I heard sippin to much booze'll leave you confused
    And if you watch the news you see playas in this game that lose
    I'm forgettin Lefty and Jazz, Pretty Tony and Lance
    Head Lou, Mel son, Troy and E Money Bags
    And a conversation over shrimp and lobster
    And Benny Hiners heard Chico stopped boxin, and started robbin diners
    Shout out to Clanvis and Clutch, Bob Dre, Black Will
    If the flow don't kill you the Mac will </div>
     
  3. phunDamentalz

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    Mr J you should be a professor of rap studies at Harvard.
     
  4. B.e.

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    This beef is a bunch of fake trash.

    I don't understand how Cam can diss 50 asking him how much Mobb Deep sold, and saying how Jim Jones sold just as much as Lloyd Banks, and he is on Koch independent records.

    But then 50 has outsold everybody out of the Dips so Cam's argument is pretty weak.

    Rappers just beef for the pub these days, none of these dudes have any real beef, its pathetic.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">This beef is a bunch of fake trash.

    I don't understand how Cam can diss 50 asking him how much Mobb Deep sold, and saying how Jim Jones sold just as much as Lloyd Banks, and he is on Koch independent records.

    But then 50 has outsold everybody out of the Dips so Cam's argument is pretty weak.

    Rappers just beef for the pub these days, none of these dudes have any real beef, its pathetic.</div>
    Fake beef >>> real beef.
    Or would you like to back to the 2pac and biggie days??[​IMG]
     
  6. Mr. J

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    <div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Mr J you should be a professor of rap studies at Harvard.</div>
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    <div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Fake beef >>> real beef.
    Or would you like to back to the 2pac and biggie days??[​IMG]</div>
    Fake beef is better than beef OFF THE MIC. But on the mic real beef is wayyyy better, because you have real animosity instead of "he disrespected me on the radio" type ish. Pac's reason for beef with BIG is probably false, but at least it was a legitmate reason to start a beef in the first place. But like I said, it should all stop on the mic, and not escalate into what happened with Pac and BIG.
     
  8. Smitty

    Smitty brush em off.

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    "How much did the Mobb sell Curtisssssssssssssssssssssssss?!?!?!"
     
  9. NTC

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    50 may be fake as f***, but what I wouldnt give to live his life...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">50 may be fake as f***, but what I wouldnt give to live his life...</div>

    I'd rather not have tons of rappers and their crews hate me and eventually try to hurt me/kill me.
     
  11. NTC

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    I could cope with that for the money, guns and bitches (with guns).

    It's also quite funny how he decided to film this is what appears to be his mansion in Conneticutt, hahahaha.
     
  12. Laker_fan

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    <div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Cam should be able to take on 50. I think 50 lost all credibility going at various New York rappers: Nas, Fat Joe, Jadakiss, and now Cam. I thought it was pretty weak using the Paid in Full scene at the end, especially 50 is known as a snitch. In his Ghetto Qu'ran he snitched on several people in his "hood", which is pretty ironic.

    First Verse:



    Second Verse:



    Third Verse:</div>

    If you think thats snitching then Tupac is also a snitch for saying that Biggie and Puffy were responsible for his shooting. Also, he mentioned their names in the infamous interview for Vibe Magazine and also in the song "Against All Odds," he mentions Hatian Jack, Jimmy Henchman and King Tutt.

    Also, apparently Supreme liked having a reputation of being a gangsta and he gave permission to 50 Cent to put the song out.
     
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    Oh and another thing, when 50 Cent raps about how he sells crack and other types of drugs, by your definition, he's snitching on himself.
     
  14. Bobcats

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    Who cares, they both suck. If it was actually two talented rappers going at it (Jay-Z/Nas, 2pac/Biggie), then I'd be interested. But 50 and Cam? Nah.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Who cares, they both suck. If it was actually two talented rappers going at it (Jay-Z/Nas, 2pac/Biggie), then I'd be interested. But 50 and Cam? Nah.</div>
    Fucking agreed.
     
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    Cam has some pretty catch nursery rhymes.
     
  17. Mr. J

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    <div class="quote_poster">Laker_fan Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Oh and another thing, when 50 Cent raps about how he sells crack and other types of drugs, by your definition, he's snitching on himself.</div>
    It doesn't matter. You can snitch on yourself, but leave other people's names out your mouth. That's the reason 50 got shot in the first place.

    Take this for example:

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">From Gerald Wallace to Baby Wise, don't be suprised
    Of how freely I thought of names of guys who dealt with pies</div>

    Clearly, 50 is revelaing the names of drug dealers. This is the most obvious case of snitching. Ironically, he is supposed to be "bigging up" his hood while he is doing the opposite. And at this time 50 was signed to Columbia Records and his album - Power of the Dollar - was about to drop. Being that he was signed with Columbia, a respectable record label, his album would have at least sold decently. So essentially, if 50's album went platinum, over a million people would know about various drug dealers in his neighborhood. If that's not snitching, I don't know what is. I'm still shocked on how many names he said. I never counted, but he said at least 15 names. And yeah, everyone knows Supreme, but not everyone wanted to be known like him.

    Just put yourself in his position. Imagine you were a drug dealer and I had a song... say, JBB Qu'ran. And I said something like Laker_fan from England always sold me bricks in London. That's blowing up your spot, no? Now imagine if I said that about everyone else in this thread, Notorious, P.A.P, Hustler, Bobcats, Notorious, Shard, Phun, A.F., Smitty, etc. That's what 50 basically did, which is why he's not, despite his fabricated lyrics, a frequent visitor of the hood.

    His name isn't even original! There was another 50 Cent before him, whose name he jacked. And that Paid in Full scene is Cam'Ron <u>not</u> snitching on his hood in Harlem, so it doesn't really make sense either. That's why Fat Joe got on him during the VMA's when he said something like "I feel safe thanks to the police protection courtesy of G-Unit". Back in 2003, he was the hottest rapper out, but has lost all credibility now, especially after 300 Bars and Runnin' by Game, who he wound up kissing.

    Besides, 50's more of a "In Da Club", type of rapper. He can rap about commercial themes, but when it comes to battling, all of his works have been subpar. His disses to Ja Rule were decent, but how hard is it to clown a funny-sounding dude who sings R&B hooks and has absolutely no hood credbility. IMO, it was inevitable that Ja Rule was going to get clowned; 50 was just the first one to do it. Piggy Bank was pretty weak (though the video was funny) and couldn't touch Checkmate by Jadakiss, 300 Bars, Don't Body Ya Self by Nas, and a number of other shots he has taken. I think Cam can take definitely hold his own against 50. It seems minor now, but I don't want it to escalate to a Harlem/Queens beef since I frequently go to Queens, particularly around the Jamaica/South Jamaica area. [​IMG]
     
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    If 50 Cent is a snitch, 2Pac is also a snitch for saying Biggie and Puffy were responsible for his shooting. If one's a snitch, they're both snitches. Personally, I don't believe 2Pac was a snitch so I can't call 50 a snitch for doing the exact same thing. And as far as winning the beef, its pretty clear that 50 won. Look how all the other rappers are on the decline in terms of album sales and money, not look at 50 Cent. 50 Cent is far from being a good lyricist, however, you have to respect his business brain and his ability to ruin other peoples careers. I remember when Ja Rule was making hits with J-Lo etc... now look at him:

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    Fat Joe had a huge single in Lean Back, what happened to him?

    It's clear that Cam'rons' career is over now. What happened to his album "Killa Season?" It was a flop. Cam'ron doesn't have a career to ruin. However, if the rest of Dipset get involved, Dipset will be finished. 50 has too much power to be messed with.
     
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    ^^He has a point.

    Jadakiss too, Nas' album did pretty weak from what I can recall, 50 does seem to be able to hurt peoples careers.
     
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    His ability to end people's career is overrated, IMO. Rappers like Ja Rule and Fat Joe either had no credibility in the first place or just couldn't rap (Joe has someone ghostwriting, I think). If 50 really was a "career-killer," the Game wouldn't have severely damages his reputation. He just picks who he beefs with very carefully.
     

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