Tim Hardaway Rips Homosexuals

<div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So much for free speech...</div>

Would it be okay if I said I hate black people, and I would never let them into the league? And they shouldn't be able to drink from water fountains, and use the same bathroom as white men? As that something, as a role model, one should be able to say?

 

<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">1. he doesn't deserve props for anything, it's a bigoted statement period. does Kramer deserve props?
2. how do you know they feel the same way? there are many straight people who have no problem with gay people. it's pretty obvious that most straight people who have a problem with gay people are really self-hating gay people...otherwise why would you care....</div>

First of all, Does Kramer deserve props?! WTF!!! Did Tim go on the air and call them flaming homo's and make fun of them, or did he just say he doesn't like them. Big Difference, and also please don't even compare blacks to gays. Gays are not a race, don't even come at me with that bullshit.

The hate part from Tim was stupid, but other then that big deal. He was just saying how he feels the same way Ameichi said how he feels.

And yes there are straight people who don't have a problem with gays, I dont hate gays but I do strongly disagree with them. I said Tim was saying how most straight people felt because its only logic that a straight man would not want to be in a locker room with a gay dude, no matter how open minded you claim to be you still know you wouldn't feel comforatable with a gay dude changing next to you..admit it.

 

<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No one has a problem with Tim Hardaway not approving of gays. However, using the words "I hate gays" is ignorant and out of line. Having a phobia is irrational fear of something. Anyone who can hate someone for no apparent reason should educate themselves on the subject matter.

Ask yourself this, if you found out a close friend or relative was gay would you all of a sudden hate them?</div>

I think you guys misunderstood me, I don't hate gays. And I agree the hate statement was out of line. But other then that what Hardaway said whasn't that big a deal, ya'll comparing it to KKK and African Americans? Relax, thats nowhere near, I just said I disagree with gays, if a close relative of mine would turn gay I would still love him because again, I don't hate gay people at all and I have nothing against them I'm just saying I don't agree with them and I wouldn't feel comfortable in a locker room with a gay dude next to me, it is what it is.

 

^It's a valid comparison because Hardaway said he hated a group of people who can't change their sexuality any more than the colour of their skin. And I guarantee you that there would have been a far greater outcry had Kramer said "I hate black people" instead of dropping the n-bomb.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Miami Flash City Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">First of all, Does Kramer deserve props?! WTF!!! Did Tim go on the air and call them flaming homo's and make fun of them, or did he just say he doesn't like them. Big Difference, and also please don't even compare blacks to gays. Gays are not a race, don't even come at me with that bullshit.
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They might not be the same, but they're alike in many ways - bigotry is defined as hatred of a group, racism and homophobia are both prejudice against a particular group. true, blacks cannot "Hide" their skin color so they're not identical but they have some similarities. it might not be the best comparison but what else are you gonna compare it to?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I said Tim was saying how most straight people felt because its only logic that a straight man would not want to be in a locker room with a gay dude, no matter how open minded you claim to be you still know you wouldn't feel comforatable with a gay dude changing next to you..admit it.</div>
obviously you don't go to the gym

 

<div class="quote_poster">Miami Flash City Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
The hate part from Tim was stupid, but other then that big deal. He was just saying how he feels the same way Ameichi said how he feels. </div>

"Other than that"? That was all there was to it. It was hate speech, and it should be reprimanded accordingly.

He was explicit. It wasn't simply that he disagrees with or hates homosexual behavior. He hates "gay people." Once the hate goes past the behavior and is directed at the person, that's bigotry. And it is absolutely in the same category as racism.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Miami Flash City Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">also please don't even compare blacks to gays. Gays are not a race, don't even come at me with that bullshit.
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<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">ya'll comparing it to KKK and African Americans? Relax, thats nowhere near</div>

I'm jealous of your intelligence. That was probably the most ignorant thing I've ever read.

Can you change your heterosexuality? Can you 'start liking dudes'? No. Just the way it is for gay people. Gays have faced just as much, if not more adversity then black people. Simply because it's been going for much longer then the whole race issue. You can trace it back all the way to the creation of religions like Christianity. They've been tortured and killed just like black people, and the discrimination is still going on today, just like it is against black people.

Seriously, I'm jealous of your intellect.

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Guys, lets keep it civil. We all have different views here, but there's no need to insult each others' intelligence just for having an opinion.

Thanks - Schaddy</font>

 

maybe black people who have a problem with others comparing their struggle to the gay struggle are displaying homophobia by doing that - in other words saying "i don't want to have something in common with gay people". no one is saying they are the same thing, but there are definite similarities between racism and homophobia - period.

you should hear Stephen A. Smith on his talk show going on - and on - and on - really angrily too - at people comparing homophobia to racism.

prejudice: A hostile opinion about some person or class of persons.
prejudice can be against blacks or gays or women or Jews

 

now he is banned...

He got banished from all star game festivities in vegas. Although, i do not agree with hardaways comments, its his opinion and I dont think he should be banned. Freedom of Speech. A person is entitled to their own opinion


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/bask...ex.html?cnn=yes

 

<div class="quote_poster">hugelakersfan8 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He got banished from all star game festivities in vegas. </div>

i actually think it's pretty cool that he got banned! lol

 

lol. Some people assume automatically that gay people will try and pull a quickie on you from behind as soon as you drop the soap in the changeroom. That's pretty pathetic. Gays are capable of controlling themselves, you know. It's people that have this mentality thinking that they're freaks of nature that makes it so difficult for them to come out of the closet, and thus makes it even stranger when the go public about it.

I like women, by the way.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Miami Flash City Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">..wtf??

I just think this whole situation is a joke, I mean big deal Hardaway don't like Gays.. Props to him for being real and actually admitting how he feels unlike all the other straight people who are knocking him but feel the same way.</div>

hey man how old are you? seriously, you sound like the biggest idiot saying that kind of thing, you should really think about what your gonna post before you post it. and who said anything about straight people hating gays? i think the only people that hate gays are religous and probably rascists aswell, like KKK, they are just ignorant subhuman monkey-like creatures who dont use their brain for its proper use, and have not evolved beyond the point of cavemen. tim hardaway is one of these people, and he can go die a bloody death, alone, in a deep hole for all icare. im not gay, but have a couple of gay friends who would be pretty upset by these kind of statements.

 

i dont approve of gays, they ruin nature and so i have come to the conclusion that they aren't human

its true, its damn true

 

I'm sure everyone knows Jewish and Palestinian people really, really hate each other in Jesrusalem, but they put their problems aside and join together to protest against gays. That's some strong stuff.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...7/wisrael07.xml

I'm still undecided on whether or not it's a mentally born dthing. I'm sure the more modern countries such as Europe, America, etc. socially accepting gay culture...you know what this is Justbball, I don't want to get into all that.

Tim Hardaway should have kept that to himself.

 

People are entitled to say whatever they want. They just have to deal w/ whatever consequences come from their decision to voice their opinion.

Tim Hardaway has been involved with the media long enough to know that he shouldn't have used the word "hate" when classifying a group of people. But if he feels that strongly about it he shouldn't have made a half-ass attempt to try to make amends by his unremorseful apology. If you feel the way you do, stand by your statements and deal with the fall out.

I wasn't upset at John Rocker for his prejudicial comments a few years back. If that is how he felt that is how he felt. I didn't agree with him just like I don't hate gay people now. Doesn't mean that these guys can't have a voice. They just have to be willing to deal with the fall out. To be honest I wish that the people who are bigots would not hide under the "politically correct blanket" and then let their feelings out when their comments will be "off the record."

Closet hate is much worse than open hate b/c closet hate discriminates without evidence. People who are open with their prejudices make themselves more accountable with the dealings that they have with whatever group that they are prejudice towards. That is not the case for those who conceal their biasness.

 

I'm sure everyone knows Jewish and Palestinian people really, really hate each other in Jesrusalem, but they put their problems aside and join together to protest against gays. That's some strong stuff.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...7/wisrael07.xml

I'm still undecided on whether or not it's a mentally born dthing. I'm sure the more modern countries such as Europe, America, etc. socially accepting gay culture has influenced...you know what this is Justbball, I don't want to get into all that.

Tim Hardaway should have kept that to himself.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Miami Flash City Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">..wtf??

I just think this whole situation is a joke, I mean big deal Hardaway don't like Gays.. Props to him for being real and actually admitting how he feels unlike all the other straight people who are knocking him but feel the same way.</div>

Thank you. I say big ups to him for not being a lil pu**y and lie. He told how he felt, just too strong though.