Return of Pippen?

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  1. thedude9990

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    <div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wouldn't that just be Aaron McKie part 2? [​IMG]

    If he does return, I honestly see him going to the Heat. After all, that's the place where all the washed up veterans go for one last shot at the title</div>


    lol miami=the old lakers with malone and payton.

    and speakin of payton hes always with those teams lol
     
  3. The Dream

    The Dream mama there goes that man!

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    I really don't see "any" team picking up Scottie....he's done.....
     
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    i wouldnt mind seein pippen come back, but hes jsut to old, idk what good he would bring to a team other than veteran leadership
     
  5. Legacy

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    I wonder if he tried to prove he could still play yesterday in the Shooting Starts competition.
     
  6. MJordan

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    He can still play. The Bulls would have won with Pippens half court shot, Ben shot out of turn unfortunetly so the Bulls were DQed
     
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    but thats just shooting, he has bad knees..and hes gonna have to prove that he can still up and down the court not just be able to shoot
     
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    ^ Right. I'm sure he can still run the court...It is all in a matter of time.
     
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    wow, i take it that those of you who think that pip would be a great addition, havent followed his career. pippen has been pretty ineffective since leaving the bulls for the rockets. If you remember the last few years with portland and then his short stint with chicago, pippen was a shell of his former self. To say he can come back a few years later and be effective is nonsense.

    Also, for those saying that pippen can provide veteran leadership: pippen has never EVER been a leader on a team. he was known for bowing out under the pressure, ie migraine vs detroit, sitting out final possession vs knicks.
     
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    ^ No offense mmonte4, but you really do not know about Pippen's history.

    Achievements and records
    Pippen holds the NBA record for most career assists for a forward.[6]
    Pippen holds the NBA record for most career steals for a forward.[7]
    Pippen holds the NBA record for most career steals in the NBA Playoffs (395).[8]
    Pippen recorded 20 career triple-doubles.[9]

    Scottie Pippen is one of the the leagues 50 greatest players, and that being said, no matter how much you dog him about his career outside of Chicago; he will STILL provide veteran leadership for any team that he goes to.

    Look at Michael Jordan for instance, his greatest seasons were within the Chicago Bulls, and he really wasn't effective on the Wizards. Can one say that Michael Jordan cannot provide good leadership because of his misfortunes outside of Chicago? No. Jordan knows the ropes of the game, as well as Pippen knows the ropes.
     
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    I dont find those records all that impressive to tell you the truth, especially since they are followed by "for a forward." Also, he isnt even top 5 in any.

    Is Pippen a true 50 Greatest. Yes, I would have to say so. How much is due to MJ though. A ton. I think i rate Worthy over Pippen though, Nique goes over Pippen as well. It is difficult to judge someone who has never been #1 on his own team (cept 94). Even with the Rockets, Blazers he was not #1. I think that Mark Aguire would compare favorably had he played with MJ.

    Ill give Pippen this, he was one of the greatest defensive players in NBA history. Still not a leader though, never was, never will be. So could Shawn Kemp provide good leadership too because he "knows the ropes?" Jordan could because he has and will always be a leader. Unfortuanely, the NBA today doesnt respect the knowledge of Jordan and other vets of the game. If the Wiz were loaded with vets, I guarentee that Jordan would have led them to the playoffs.
     
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    "For a forward" can have negative and positive connotations.
    However, in the NBA sense, it is a positive thing. It means that he is more capable than many other forwards in those particular areas.

    It has nothing to do with being number one on the team. Even though Pippen isn't number one, he is still in good standing. Pippen is usually 2nd on the team, so he's still in good standing.

    However, veteran leadership isn't all about "standing" on previous teams, it is more about wisdom of the game. Just because Pippen wasn't number one, does not eliminate the potential wisdom and experience that he could add to a team, especially since the fact that he's played alongside with Michael Jordan and was on a dominating championship team. One could be confident that he can lay some wisdom down on these youngsters in the league: leadership.
     
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    Jordan couldnt do it for the Wizards, and Magic couldnt do if for the Lakers (1994 and 1996). What makes you think that Pippen can?
     
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    Pippen just may be a better adviser than Jordan or Magic. It is more about Pippen giving advice rather than playing.
     
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    Pippens only looking to play around 15 minutes a game so him coming out of retirement is purely for championship reason and the chance to show some veteran leadership. I still think Miami and Phoenix are the best places that he has a chance at ending up in.

    41 isn't THAT old, I mean Mutombo's 76 and he's still playing. [​IMG]
     
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    please tell me what you are basing your claim on that pippen can be a better advisor than magic or jordan? where are you getting this?

    he is WASHED up. that is why he retired. he can provide nothing. pippen was never known as a vocal, take charge guy. What makes you think he has suddenly changed? His comments in the Times where he refers to MJ are a disgrace.
     
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    Mutumbo is ANCIENT! LOL. I wouldn't mind Pippen back in a NBA uniform. Nothing wrong with giving him a chance. Sure it didnt work out for Magic or Jordan, but Pippen is his OWN person. If he can pass the physical, I say let him have a chance.
     
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    His comments in the Times where he refers to MJ are a disgrace.[/QUOTE]

    I CAN'T FIND IT IN THE NYT WHAT DAY WAS IT?[​IMG]
     
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    While pippen is 41, you must keep in mind the level of training he has gone through all his life. Being 41 in the NBA is like being 25 for the average person, unless ur Barkley.
     
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