Fire Mitch!

Discussion in 'Los Angeles Lakers' started by bruin007, Feb 22, 2007.

  1. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Of course that's true, but what I'm trying to say is that there are so many different things that could've factored into this decision, that it isn't fair to bash him for it. The trade deadline is the most unpredictable time of all and any number of things could've come up with so little time until the deadline. No reasonable GM could be expected to make a deal that they know isn't the best possible one, even if they do risk losing respect around the league.</div>

    Both owners signed off on the deal already. If Thorn had second thoughts, he should have come forward with them prior to both owners signing off on the deal. Thorn was comfortable enough with getting Ratner to approve the deal, so why back out all of a sudden. He deserves criticism he's getting here.

    Nets fans need to ask themselves, what does keeping Jason Kidd do for your team?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> The Lakers lack an athletic wing defender, and those aren't hard to find.

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    Could the Lakers afford maybe Gerald Wallace after he opts out of his deal with Charlotte?
     
  3. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Playmaker15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Could the Lakers afford maybe Gerald Wallace after he opts out of his deal with Charlotte?</div>

    The Lakers are over the cap heading into the summer already. They still need to re-sign Luke Walton, and possibly Chris Mihm

    The only option is working out a sign and trade with Charlotte if the Lakers wanted Gerald Wallace.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Lakers are over the cap heading into the summer already. They still need to re-sign Luke Walton, and possibly Chris Mihm

    The only option is working out a sign and trade with Charlotte if the Lakers wanted Gerald Wallace.</div>

    So basically we're going to be stuck with the same roster next season? What a great way to waste Kobe's prime
     
  5. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Both owners signed off on the deal already. If Thorn had second thoughts, he should have come forward with them prior to both owners signing off on the deal. Thorn was comfortable enough with getting Ratner to approve the deal, so why back out all of a sudden. He deserves criticism he's getting here.

    Nets fans need to ask themselves, what does keeping Jason Kidd do for your team?</div>
    There are still too many possibilities and Thorn is a very good GM, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Another team could have very easily called him, motivated by the news that the deal was nearly finalized, and promised a better one over the offseason.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">There are still too many possibilities and Thorn is a very good GM, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Another team could have very easily called him, motivated by the news that the deal was nearly finalized, and promised a better one over the offseason.</div>

    So Thorn didn't pull the trigger because another GM called, and promised him a better offer in the offseason? Um, okay. This is the NBA. People lie all the time. Just because someone promised him a better offer in the offseason, doesn't mean it's going to happen. I mean, the offseason is still months away, who knows what's going to happen then? If Rod Thorn is that smart of a GM, he wouldn't listen to someone just because they "promised him a better deal in the offseason"
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">There are still too many possibilities and Thorn is a very good GM, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Another team could have very easily called him, motivated by the news that the deal was nearly finalized, and promised a better one over the offseason.</div>

    And in the business profession, that my friend is unethical.
     
  8. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    It's a hypothetical situation. I was just trying to show that there's a lot of unknown factors that none of us have any knowledge of and it's a bit premature to be bashing him like that. Like I said, Thorn's a good GM and he wouldn't make such an abrupt change if he wasn't sure it was in the best interests of the Nets. In the end, I think the Lakers' offer just wasn't all that convincing.
     
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    I severely doubt another team got involved at the end, as it was reported that the reports of the Clippers and Suns getting involved were smokescreens and the Lakers were the only team to inquire about Kidd.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Any chance we get Kidd in the off-season? No. By then all our expiring contracts will be gone, and wasted yet again. To be honest, I wasn't expecting us to land Jason Kidd, but I expected at least something to happen to shake up the roster. Instead, we get absolutely nothing.

    I can only imagine the pain Kobe and Phil Jackson must feel right now. This is just disappointing</div>

    I have Thorn to blame. I know that everyone wants a fair deal or at least something that is realistic. Thorn just pushes it to the absolute limit. The Nets are done. Jason Kidd doesn't deserve to be on a team that's on the verge of rebuilding and I sure as hell don't want to see him doing what Thorn wants. And that's to baby sit Marcus Williams.
     
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    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    <div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I severely doubt another team got involved at the end, as it was reported that the reports of the Clippers and Suns getting involved were smokescreens and the Lakers were the only team to inquire about Kidd.</div>
    It's hard to say that with any certainty. I mean, you yourself changed positions on the same article, which kind of shows how difficult it is to sift through all the rumours. I personally think it was a combination of not being able to trade VC, the crappiness of the Lakers' offer, and Wade's injury that convinced Thorn to hold off on rebuilding until the offseason.
     
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    Well now Thorn has to deal with a disappointed Jason Kidd, which should make it harder for the Nets to get any value for him.
     
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    Why should Mitch be fired?

    Because of the Lakers losing streak?

    Maybe Phil should be fired.
     

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