I prefer Tyler's consistency and motor. He's a little undersized, but he battles on both ends and plays with a lot more confidence. Hansborough will adjust faster to the physical demands of the NBA.
normally i'd give a pretty good argument one way or another, but i'm not in the mood, haha. Josh owns hansborough's butt ( i swear, theres no dukie bias in there, really).
As an NBA prospect, McRoberts upside is much greater than Hansbrough. It'll be tough for Tyler to crash the boards and get the putbacks and blue collar shots he does in the NCAA because of his size and lack of overall skill. But you gotta love how he gives it his best and gives it 110% while maximizing everything he has to offer on the court as far as talent. McRoberts has alot of a talent, he can pass the ball very well for a big man. He hasn't improved as many expected him to in his second year, and I believe it will take a few years in the L before he shows what hes really capable of. He really needs to spend next year in college, maybe even two more years.
<div class="quote_poster">hoops4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">normally i'd give a pretty good argument one way or another, but i'm not in the mood, haha. Josh owns hansborough's butt ( i swear, theres no dukie bias in there, really).</div> I don't know how McRoberts owns Hansbrough. Honestly, I think McRoberts still has to live up to his potential. He was touted as one of the best post players in America coming out of school, but when Duke hit its tough stretch and needed a go-to player, McRoberts didn't assume that mantle - Paulus did. He's an extremely skilled player and I agree his upside is higher than Hansbrough's. However, at this stage, Hansbrough is clearly the better player. McRoberts is a better passer and shot-blocker. I think he's a very good passing big man. Here's their stats this year McRoberts: 34.9 min/game, 12.8 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 3.6 apg, 2.55 bpg, 1.21 spg, 50.4% FG, 66.9% FT Hansbrough: 29.3 min/game, 18.7 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 1.2 apg, 1.18 spg, 0.44 bpg, 53.0% FG, 76.9% FT Head to head, Hansbrough averages 31.3 min/game 19.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.3 apg and McRoberts averages 23.3 min/game, 9.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, and 1.6 apg. I'm actually surprised that McRoberts averages so many minutes - if anything, his numbers should be better than they are because of it. Consider this; other elite frontcourt players like Hansbrough, Alando Tucker, Al Thornton and Nick Fazekas all play right about 30 minutes per game, but still put up better numbers than McRoberts, so I don't think it's fair to put him up against them in a discussion - he simply isn't on that level yet. McRoberts numbers may actually be hurt by the fact that he logs so many minutes. If he sticks around for his junior year, I think we'll see him maximize more of his potential.
i know that hansb. is playing better than josh (hence why i mentioned the dukie bias), i actually admit that josh is one of the most overrated players in the country. hes got potential to put up numbers like that of hansb., alando, fazekas, etc...he just needs to get more aggressive IMO.
<div class="quote_poster">P.A.P. Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">As an NBA prospect, McRoberts upside is much greater than Hansbrough. It'll be tough for Tyler to crash the boards and get the putbacks and blue collar shots he does in the NCAA because of his size and lack of overall skill. But you gotta love how he gives it his best and gives it 110% while maximizing everything he has to offer on the court as far as talent. McRoberts has alot of a talent, he can pass the ball very well for a big man. He hasn't improved as many expected him to in his second year, and I believe it will take a few years in the L before he shows what hes really capable of. He really needs to spend next year in college, maybe even two more years.</div> I disagree, the mental makeup of Josh McRoberts should be a red flag to every scout watching him play. This was supposed to be "his team" with Redick and Shelden Williams jumping to the NBA. McRoberts has been a huge disappointment (maybe the expectations where to high), coming into Duke as a blue chip player ranked #2 amongst high schoolers. If McRoberts had entered the NBA draft before he actually played starter minutes, he would have been a top 3 pick. Now he'll be lucky if he's selected in the lottery. His size is more appealing than Hansborough, but you can't teach a player to become stronger mentally. It's just a trait some players have and some don't. I think Hansborough might get drafted further down because of his size, but he'll be a more productive pro player.
I've watched the majority of Duke games this season and here are some of my thoughts on McRoberts. -Overrated -Inconsistent -Weak in the paint -Isn't as athletic as described -Takes stupid shots -Not a great finisher Hansbrough can and probably will develop into a much finer player in the NBA. McRoberts, well I just don't see where anyone considers him a top prospect.
<div class="quote_poster">Butter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">-Overrated -Inconsistent -Weak in the paint -Isn't as athletic as described -Takes stupid shots -Not a great finisher Hansbrough can and probably will develop into a much finer player in the NBA. McRoberts, well I just don't see where anyone considers him a top prospect.</div> Agree, McRoberts stinks of Mike Dunleavy Jr. to me for all the reasons you listed. I don't like Hansbrough but at least hes got a great motor, toughness, and consistency going for him.
<div class="quote_poster">Butter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I've watched the majority of Duke games this season and here are some of my thoughts on McRoberts. -Overrated -Inconsistent -Weak in the paint -Isn't as athletic as described -Takes stupid shots -Not a great finisher Hansbrough can and probably will develop into a much finer player in the NBA. McRoberts, well I just don't see where anyone considers him a top prospect.</div> as hard as it is for me to admit, i agree with all of those things except for the last two, saying that he takes bad shots and isn't a great finisher. lately, his shot selection has gone up and he tends to realize now when a shot WOULD be a bad one, which makes him not take it. also, while hes not a fantastic finisher finisher, he is a pretty good one. it could be better, but its not that bad.
McRoberts gets a bad rap because he's not a good scorer. He's pretty much a poor man's Kirilenko or Marion. He's just not made to be the first option on a basketball team. Put him on a team where he doesn't have to concentrate on scoring and all the potential he is supposedly wasting will show itself.
I watched the McDickz All-American Game where McRoberts won the game MVP.. I was wowed by the all-around game that he had.. And as such, I quickly became a fan.. Then last year, I kept hearing/reading comments about this big dude from UNC.. I thought nothing of it.. Never even bothered to really check out one of his games.. But this year, I've been watching a lot more ACC games and I'm CONVINCED, absolutely CONVINCED, that Psycho T will be a better pro than Josh McRoberts.. Reasons be damned.. Anyone who have watched these two play will have plenty of reasons one way or another.. But Psycho T's motor and toughness is what will make him succeed in the NBA.. And he's a lot more skilled than just any hustle guy so don't call him Mark Madsen or anything.. To me, Psycho T's easily a late lottery pick!
