Who recommended Marco Bellinelli again?

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  1. Custodianrules2

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    Dang, if his athletic/quickness/strength abilities are on par relative to starting nba shooting guards, this guy looks pretty impressive. Off balance, hand in his face, body fully squared torward the basket while fading away with a quick shot release that doesn't look herky jerky.

    But I wonder if he's got a good midrange game, free throw game, defensive, clutch factor, and passing game as well. I'll take any shooting guard that can behave like a point guard when needed. I know we need a three, four, five, but we don't really have a good big two that can finish from deep or at the basket that is considered a real shooter.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r2WueJDD7c

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04xrXUyN5Jw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLC828jBc3I

    of course they could be just typical of any highlight videos. He could be Marko Jaric or Brent Barry part 2, which isn't bad for late first round or early 2nd round, but poor for lottery in a supposedly deep draft.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">of course they could be just typical of any highlight videos. He could be Marko Jaric or Brent Barry part 2, which isn't bad for late first round or early 2nd round, but poor for lottery in a supposedly deep draft.</div>

    If we trade down and had two picks, then I'd certainly give him a look there. Only because this is a big man (PF/C) draft and we need a big man so bad. Nbadraft.net has Marco Belinelli in the lottery at #13, but we're still far away from the draft and lot should CHANGE before then [​IMG]. Right now Tiago Splitter is ranked at 25. Whatever happened to him?

    Marco Belinelli looks like he has good size; Should be a true 6-6. I liked him much better in his later videos, but I suppose the 360 was to show his athleticism and hops. He does have some hops as he can get up. His shot is a bit like Kobe's and his 360 dunk reminded me of Brent Barry.
     
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    Meh, I am not impressed. I guarantee Dunleavy could have done everything I saw in that video because we have all seen him do that before. Rarely, but he has done it. A 360 dunk is not that impressive either...

    He did look smooth and coordinated, but nothing near 7 feet tall, more like 6'6" like someone else had mentioned...
     
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    Warriors should draft Jeff Green from Georgetown if he's available.
     
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    I mentioned Belinelli in one of my posts a couple days ago. I think he'd be great as a kick out shooter whether its Baron or Ellis driving. He's fast on the break, and offensively he has all the tools. What I am hoping for is that his buyout is going to be high, yet he still stays in the draft and we can trade our two 2nds to pick him up.

    Belinelli has been called a point guard by europeans occasionally, so I can see him as a good backcourt partner with Ellis, and maybe Jrich takes the SF position full-time. Who knows how he'll fit, but I definately like the guy if we also can pick up a Julian Wright, Jeff Green type in the process.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">StateofFlux Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I mentioned Belinelli in one of my posts a couple days ago. I think he'd be great as a kick out shooter whether its Baron or Ellis driving. He's fast on the break, and offensively he has all the tools. What I am hoping for is that his buyout is going to be high, yet he still stays in the draft and we can trade our two 2nds to pick him up.

    Belinelli has been called a point guard by europeans occasionally, so I can see him as a good backcourt partner with Ellis, and maybe Jrich takes the SF position full-time. Who knows how he'll fit, but I definately like the guy if we also can pick up a Julian Wright, Jeff Green type in the process.</div>

    I like the guy in theory (from small snippets of his game because I haven't seen him much), good call, Flux!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Warriors should draft Jeff Green from Georgetown if he's available.</div>

    That's another guy I like if he can shoot.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Warriorfansnc93 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Meh, I am not impressed. I guarantee Dunleavy could have done everything I saw in that video because we have all seen him do that before. Rarely, but he has done it. A 360 dunk is not that impressive either...

    He did look smooth and coordinated, but nothing near 7 feet tall, more like 6'6" like someone else had mentioned...</div>

    Wait, who said he was 7 feet? I don't think Dunleavy could shoot or finish inside, but I ain't pulling for Bellinelli unless I've seen him more. Especially at his worst.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">jason voorhees Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If we trade down and had two picks, then I'd certainly give him a look there. Only because this is a big man (PF/C) draft and we need a big man so bad. Nbadraft.net has Marco Belinelli in the lottery at #13, but we're still far away from the draft and lot should CHANGE before then [​IMG]. Right now Tiago Splitter is ranked at 25. Whatever happened to him?

    Marco Belinelli looks like he has good size; Should be a true 6-6. I liked him much better in his later videos, but I suppose the 360 was to show his athleticism and hops. He does have some hops as he can get up. His shot is a bit like Kobe's and his 360 dunk reminded me of Brent Barry.</div>

    He was on the radar before. So I kind of remembered him. I like too. [​IMG] (so far)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Warriors should draft Jeff Green from Georgetown if he's available.</div>

    He would be a great fit here but I'd be a bit worried about his consistency with scoring and rebounding. Hes still young; 20 years old right now and will be 21 come the beginning of the next NBA season, but he hasn't shown the ability to be a consistent scoring threat every night even though hes a mismatch on most players. His rebounding may not be good enough for him to be a PF in the NBA, hes athletic enough to play the 3 but in our system he'd definitely be a 4 and we would need him to get 8+ rpg.

    He is a guy who can do everything though, he gets a lot of assists for a 3/4 and can be a legit point forward. Hes very smart and very athletic, shoots good %'s, plays good defense, gets steals and blocks. Unfortunately right now he reminds me of a more athletic Dunleavy; has all the skill you want and is a smart player, good decision maker, can do a bit of everything but doesn't do anything really well, etc. but hes too passive at times, can disappear on the court, inconsistent especially so in scoring/shooting, hasn't shown that much improvement since his freshman year (though lately hes come on very strong).

    He does have more athleticism and mental toughness than Dunleavy but theres still cause for some concern because he shows the same inconsistency and passiveness that Dunleavy possesses.
     
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    Don't forget that Green is playing next to Hibbert, or he plays as the Center for his team, so he's not getting most of the rebounds, plus he is normally assigned, when not the center, to guard the main scorer be it down low or on the perimeter. I don't know how that translates to the NBA but the guy is really smart and very fundamental and the thing I hear about him the most is that he plays within himself. He doesn't make bad passes. Problem is he doesn't dribble with a guy in front of him because he doesn't trust his dribbling.

    That said, I think he can play on the same court with Harrington at the 4 in Nellie's system and would be a good fit. He's a fantastic passer and does tend to take over games when his team needs him to. The reason why I like him above J. Wright (the only reason, I like JW alot) is that he blocks out well and always has his eyes on the ball. He has the little things down and while he's still young, he is very proven.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">StateofFlux Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Don't forget that Green is playing next to Hibbert, or he plays as the Center for his team, so he's not getting most of the rebounds, plus he is normally assigned, when not the center, to guard the main scorer be it down low or on the perimeter. I don't know how that translates to the NBA but the guy is really smart and very fundamental and the thing I hear about him the most is that he plays within himself. He doesn't make bad passes. Problem is he doesn't dribble with a guy in front of him because he doesn't trust his dribbling.

    That said, I think he can play on the same court with Harrington at the 4 in Nellie's system and would be a good fit. He's a fantastic passer and does tend to take over games when his team needs him to. The reason why I like him above J. Wright (the only reason, I like JW alot) is that he blocks out well and always has his eyes on the ball. He has the little things down and while he's still young, he is very proven.</div>

    Agree with all of that, but it seems like most of that is also how Dunleavy is/was described. I haven't seen him take over any games but I've only seen one game of the Hoyas current hot streak. I love his fundamentals, athleticism, bball IQ, court vision, and overall versatility but he doesn't dominate games in any aspect from what I've seen and has a tendency to disappear. Hes also highly touted as having so much potential but he hasn't progressed much statistically in his 3 years at Georgetown. I like him as a prospect in the late lotto but he sounds like Dunleavy part deux when people describe him, he does have athleticism and defense going for him though and his scoring stats might be deflated since he plays in a princeton offense.
     
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    If we get a Joe Johnson clone in the late first round lottery, I'll be happy. I'll take solidness over tremendous flaws. But so far the knock on Green that I've heard is he can't shoot very well and also his ballhandling is not the best, but it's okay I guess. This is just normal bar talk, so I don't know what to believe if I hadn't watched him from game to game.
     
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    I really wish Nicolas Batum would come out so we could take a flyer on him. He reminds alot of people of Joe Johnson. It's possible that he could declare, hoping for a promise, knowing that his buyout would be high and that he is planning on staying in france for another year. We get Green or Wright at an earlier point, trade for a mid round pick, and draft him. He's got improving range on his shot, and is a real good all-around player. He's working to improve in all of his talents, even though he's a stand-out at every level he's been in.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">StateofFlux Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I really wish Nicolas Batum would come out so we could take a flyer on him. He reminds alot of people of Joe Johnson. It's possible that he could declare, hoping for a promise, knowing that his buyout would be high and that he is planning on staying in france for another year. We get Green or Wright at an earlier point, trade for a mid round pick, and draft him. He's got improving range on his shot, and is a real good all-around player. He's working to improve in all of his talents, even though he's a stand-out at every level he's been in.</div>

    Batum, I'll check that guy out. Anything for a smart basketball player that's decently athletic, is creative, aggressive, play defense, is unselfish and can shoot.
     
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    I've been looking at guys who can play point forward, i.e. guys who can rebound, have handles and can take the ball back down so they can either make a play or can score themselves. It would give the Warriors another playmaker in addition to Baron and Monta.

    The two that fit that role best are Julian Wright (Boris Diaw) and Yi Jianlian (Tony Kukoc or Pau Gasol). I think that's the way Nellie would go if either of those guys were there where the Warriors are going to pick in the 7 - 10 range. My backup in case those guys weren't there was Thaddeus Young who would be a SF who has some big upside. He's also a lefty.

    BTW this draft, I think Nelson will get a lot of input in the decision and Mullin will probably let his voice have more weight.

    Lately, I've been looking at guys who can rebound and clog the paint though. The Warriors really suck in this area and AB needs immediate relief. It's why the Warriors are still just missing the playoffs. Harrington isn't cutting it, and while I thought he could play SF, it's better that we trade him imo. But he plays golf with Nellie!
     

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