Week 17 Rankings

1) Kansas
2) Wisconsin
3) Ohio State
4) UCLA
5) North Carolina
6) Texas A&M
7) Georgetown
8) Florida
9) Maryland
10) Washington State
11) Southern Illinois
12) Winthrop
13) Oregon
14) Nevada
15) Pittsburgh
16) Notre Dame
17) Memphis
18) UNLV
19) Butler
20) Texas
21) Arizona
22) Duke
23) Louisville
24) Marquette
25) Villanova

 

1. Ohio State
2. Wisconsin
3. Kansas
4. UCLA
5. Texas A&M
6. Georgetown
7. North Carolina
8. Memphis
9. Florida
10. Maryland
11. Southern Illinois
12. Winthrop
13. Washington State
14. Pittsburgh
15. Nevada
16. Oregon
17. Louisville
18. Notre Dame
19. Marquette
20. Texas
21. UNLV
22. Creighton
23. Duke
24. Butler
25. Villanova

 

1. Ohio State - there's no way they're the best team in the country, but nobody else is, either
2. Kansas
3. UCLA
4. Texas A&M
5. North Carolina
6. Wisconsin
7. Georgetown
8. Maryland
9. Southern Illinois
10. Florida
11. Oregon
12. Wazzou
13. Wintrop
14. Memphis
15. Louisville
16. Notre Dame
17. Pitt
18. UNLV
19. Texas - they proved a lot this week, beating A&M and hanging w/KU
20. Nevada
21. Marquette
22. Butler
23. Dook
24. Xavier
25. BYU

 

Don't take this as bitching, I'm just wondering why is North Carolina at least 2-5 spots ahead of Florida in all of these polls? They have been struggling close to Florida as of late and have some bad losses like Florida does, while having 1 more loss. I'm not saying I would rank Florida over North Carolina, I'm just saying I wouldn't rank North Carolina 5 spots ahead of Florida.

 

<div class="quote_poster">GatorsowntheNCAA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Don't take this as bitching, I'm just wondering why is North Carolina at least 2-5 spots ahead of Florida in all of these polls? They have been struggling close to Florida as of late and have some bad losses like Florida does, while having 1 more loss. I'm not saying I would rank Florida over North Carolina, I'm just saying I wouldn't rank North Carolina 5 spots ahead of Florida.</div>

I don't want to start a whole big debate over it, but basically, it breaks down like this for me:

- I think UNC has a more talented roster.
- I actually moved Florida up this week after going 1-1, whereas I moved North Carolina down.
- UNC blew out Tennessee, who just blew out Florida.
- Florida's one real quality win is a win that UNC also has, over OSU.
- Aside from OSU, UNC has beaten the likes of Winthrop, Virginia, Arizona, BC, GTech, Duke (twice), etc.; basically, more quality wins.
- While UNC has lost two of their last five, UF has three of their last five.
- UNC dropped those games games to better teams in more closely-contested games (Maryland at the last minute, a hot GTech club) opposed to losses to Vanderbilt, LSU, and UT, all by 10+ points.
- Joakim Noah hurts my eyes and is way too pompous for his own good.

 

<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">#1 - UCLA
#2 - Ohio State
#3 - Wisconsin
#4 - Kansas
#5 - North Carolina
#6 - Texas A&M
#7 - Nevada
#8 - Florida
#9 - Washington State
#10 - Southern Illinois
#11 - Georgetown
#12 - Oregon
#13 - USC
#14 - Texas
#15 - Memphis
#16 - Pittsburgh
#17 - Butler
#18 - Tennessee
#19 - Louisville
#20 - Xavier
#21 - Duke
#22 - Winthorp
#23 - BYU
#24 - Air Force
#25 - Notre Dame</div>

 

1) Ohio State – 97 (2)
2) Kansas – 94 (1)
3) UCLA – 92 (1)
4) Wisconsin – 91
5) Texas A&M – 83
6) North Carolina – 82
7) Georgetown – 73
8) Florida – 69
9) Southern Illinois – 63
10) Washington State – 60
11) Oregon – 52
12) Maryland – 51
13) Memphis – 50
14) Nevada – 48
15) Winthrop - 45
16) Pittsburgh – 42
17) Texas – 31
18) Louisville – 30
19) Notre Dame – 29
20) Butler – 22
21) UNLV – 21
22) Arizona – 18
23) Duke – 15
24) Marquette – 14
25T) Tennessee – 8
25T) Xavier - 8

Others Receiving Votes:
BYU (4), Creighton (4), Air Force (2), Villanova (2)

 

<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Not bad, I hate seeing teams like Memphis and Winthorp this high up, but the better teams aren't doing enough to distance themselves from the rest of the pack.

I'm surprised Arizona isn't in everyone's Top 25. They've been on fire the last few weeks, including 3 road wins against the Pac-10.</div>

Winthrop's pretty legit, as far as I can see at least. Really, they're a few stupid mistakes away from having wins over Wisconsin and North Carolina on their record if you think about it, and their only other losses are to Texas A&M and Maryland. Otherwise, they're perfect on the year.

 

<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The point though is they don't have any quality wins on the season. They lost all those games. The UNC game was in the beginning of the season, so I don't put much stock in it. The Tarheels destroyed them in the 2nd half of that game, which is probably a more clear indication of how that game should have went.

In the Wisconsin game, Winthorp was hot from behind the arc (15 three pointers). How often is a team going to hit 15 threes on 25 attempts?

For me there just isn't enough evidence to rank them in the Top 15, and the evidence available to us, they lost all 4 times.

However, I do think Winthorp will be a team people want to avoid in the Tourney. Teams who aren't ready for their pressure D and the 3 point shooting are going to go down. They are tough to game plan against.</div>

How about their win at ODU or their blowout at Missouri State? Those games didn't prove anything?

BTW - It's Winthrop.

 

@ owls popping up again


All I can say about Winthrop is that when I've watched them, they've been REALLY impressive. They have 8 guys who can shoot the 3, and even that 6'10" guy can step out. I think they play much like Oregon does, TBH. They'll press at times, have multipe guards who can handle, pass, score. I don't have a problem ranking them - I think they'd be 3rd in the Big 10 this year



That is unless they had to face the legend that is Drew Neitzel

As far as Zona, I have noticed that they got a few wins now, but I can't yet rank them. I've seen them a bunch this year, but I actually haven't seen them get spanked. That's what really scares me - I've seen them play well, and they're still one of the worst defensive teams I've ever seen in college hoops. I just don't feel right ranking them.

Realize that since I'm counting them out here, they'll be in the Final Four

 

<div class="quote_poster">Shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not going to debate those two wins, both were solid. I just don't see anything spectacular on their resume.
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just stfu, n00b

 

<div class="quote_poster">Schaddy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> @ owls popping up again
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<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"></div>