<div class="quote_poster">Fast Luck Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Air Force lost in the first game of the MWC tourney today. They've lost their last four in a row and could only manage 10-7 in the Mountain West. Their RPI is good but I really think they should be out now. Not saying they will be out, just that they should be.</div> I agree, Air Force looks shakey, but their RPI gets them in. Their definitely in line for being an early upset special.
What does everyone think FSU has to do to get in now? Do they have to still beat UNC or can they keep it close and still get in?
I've still got some numbers to crunch, but FSU may be the last team out. Then again, I'm known to favor mid majors more than other people It may well come down to them and Purdue to decide the last 'major' team who gets a bid.
<div class="quote_poster">GatorsowntheNCAA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What does everyone think FSU has to do to get in now? Do they have to still beat UNC or can they keep it close and still get in?</div> Their odds are improving with other bubble teams losing early in conference tournament play. Originally I felt they had to win ouright, but maybe making it to the Finals is enough for them. They need help though.
Oklahoma State with a huge win over Texas A&M. If Texas loses to Baylor, this positions Oklahoma State to face Baylor in the semis in the Big 12.
Big win by Utah State over Nevada. They're becoming a perennial NCAA fixture. This also pops another bubble.
Instead of just predicting exactly who's in and who's out, I'm just going to start posting my predicted seedings. Seeing something visual makes it easier for me to put it all together. Here's how I see it breaking down as of now - <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"><font size=""1"">1 seeds – Ohio State UCLA Kansas Wisconsin – If they win the Big 10 2 seeds – North Carolina Florida Pittsburgh/Georgetown – Big East Winner Memphis 3 seeds – Pittsburgh/Georgetown – Big East Loser Texas A&M Southern Illinois Oregon 4 seeds – Nevada Washington State Texas UNLV 5 seeds – Maryland BYU Louisville Creighton 6 seeds – Tennessee Creighton Notre Dame Duke 7 seeds – Marquette Butler Virginia Winthrop 8 seeds – Xavier Virginia Tech Southern Cal Kentucky 9 seeds – Boston College Vanderbilt Arizona Syracuse 10 seeds – Indiana Villanova Michigan State Texas Tech 11 seeds – Illinois Air Force VCU Purdue 12 seeds – Georgia Tech Drexel Davidson Gonzaga 13 seeds – New Mexico State George Washington Wright State Vermont 14 seeds – TAMU-CC Holy Cross Pennsylvania Oral Roberts 15 seeds – Long Beach State Belmont Delaware State North Texas 16 seeds – Eastern Kentucky Niagra Weber State - Central Connecticut - Mississippi Valley State </font></div> That breaks down like this - IN: - Syracuse - Purdue - Texas Tech - Air Force - Drexel - Georgia Tech - Illinois OUT: - Old Dominion - Florida State - Missouri State - Stanford - West Virginia - Oklahoma State - Clemson - Kansas State <u>Conference Breakdown</u> ACC - 7 Big East - 7 Big 10 - 6 Pac-10 - 5 Big 12 - 4 SEC - 4 MWC - 3 CAA - 2 Horizon - 2 MVC - 2 WAC - 2
Can someone please tell my why the MWC teams get so much damn hype for beating up the mid-major talent teams in their conference? UNLV and BYU are absolutely nothing special, but people are putting them in 4 and 5 seeds. But teams that have been consistent all year like Virginia or Va Tech get sh!t on and get put in harder matchups? If the committee doesn't differ from these "Mock" brackets, BYU & UNLV should thank George Mason for getting non-BCS schools so much credit......
<div class="quote_poster">J_Ray Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Can someone please tell my why the MWC teams get so much damn hype for beating up the mid-major talent teams in their conference? UNLV and BYU are absolutely nothing special, but people are putting them in 4 and 5 seeds. But teams that have been consistent all year like Virginia or Va Tech get sh!t on and get put in harder matchups? If the committee doesn't differ from these "Mock" brackets, BYU & UNLV should thank George Mason for getting non-BCS schools so much credit......</div> Wow, out of all the teams you could have picked on, you picked on the #10 team in the RPI (UNLV) and the #19 team in the RPI (BYU)? Ouch. I know neither has played a marquee high-major opponent (unless you count UNLV beating TTech on the road), but I really don't think that matters much when your resume doesn't have any other real glaring holes, and it includes 25+ wins against solid, underrated clubs. They've gotten it done, regardless of not knocking off that one big name opponent.
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wow, out of all the teams you could have picked on, you picked on the #10 team in the RPI (UNLV) and the #19 team in the RPI (BYU)? Ouch. I know neither has played a marquee high-major opponent (unless you count UNLV beating TTech on the road), but I really don't think that matters much when your resume doesn't have any other real glaring holes, and it includes 25+ wins against solid, underrated clubs. They've gotten it done, regardless of not knocking off that one big name opponent.</div> Well you can say the same thing about Va Tech or Virginia, who have both won big time games and were top tier teams in the ACC. UNLV hasn't really played anyone worth mentioning and when they did play a good team that was playing good, San Diego St. whooped their ass! BYU is just a waste of my time.....
If Illinois had lost to Indy I would have definitely put them out. With that win, it makes it harder, but if teams in other parts of the country, like Kansas State, keep coming up with big wins then it gets iffy again. There's not really such thing as "doing enough" for a bid as the talking heads always call it, because other teams in other parts of the country could go and do more, or another slot that could get eaten up by some big time mid major losing.
<div class="quote_poster">GatorsowntheNCAA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What about Arkansas now?</div> You know, I guess they have a case. An RPI in the 40's and making it to the SEC title game helps of course, but the SEC wound up only really having one or two great teams in it this year. It's not like they had to plow through Marquette, Louisville, and Georgetown like Pitt is doing right now. They had to beat South Carolina, Vandy, and Mississippi State. I still think they have to win it all to ensure that they're in. A 12-loss record (7-9 SEC reg.) with that kind of schedule just won't cut it, especially with only three or four true bubble spots remaining. The field is narrowing every day.
They were saying Kansas State is IN after losing to Kansas on the postgame show. I felt they needed to beat Kansas to make it, thoughts on KState? Do they get some benefit of the doubt with Billy Walker out for most of the year?
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">They were saying Kansas State is IN after losing to Kansas on the postgame show. I felt they needed to beat Kansas to make it, thoughts on KState? Do they get some benefit of the doubt with Billy Walker out for most of the year?</div> I just don't see the room. There's a lot of pro-Old Dominion sentiment as of late too. If both of them make it though, which two of these teams don't make it? - Syracuse - Purdue - Texas Tech - Air Force - Drexel - Georgia Tech - Illinois I wouldn't take K-State or ODU over any of those guys, personally.
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I just don't see the room. There's a lot of pro-Old Dominion sentiment as of late too. If both of them make it though, which two of these teams don't make it? - Syracuse - Purdue - Texas Tech - Air Force - Drexel - Georgia Tech - Illinois I wouldn't take K-State or ODU over any of those guys, personally.</div> Yeah it's tough, there's a lot of teams in the discussion. I'd probably use the LRPI to sort through them. Current LRPI <u> Breakdown by LRPI</u> Drexel - 20 Air Force - 33 Illinois - 40 Kansas State - 44 Syracuse - 51 Texas Tech - 65 Purdue - 93 Georgia Tech - 101 <u>Breakdown by RPI</u> Illinois - 31 Air Force - 32 Drexel - 38 Purdue - 41 Syracuse - 51 Georgia Tech - 52 Texas Tech - 53 Kansas State - 56
I was just looking at Lunardi's updated projections and he has Air Force OUT. I personally think they will get in as an 11 or 12, but what do you all think?
