OHH...so NOW they wanna consider SUSPENDING Kobe after ESPN game...

Love the article. The player comments were the funniest.

 

<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Anyways here's a great parity piece from Socks at LG:</div>

LMAO, that was great.

 

<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You could argue Shaq should have been suspended. Maybe if that happened this season he would be. At the same time, his hit wasn't a clean strike at another player's face. That type of contact is dealt with differently, I think.</div>

come on now, an intentional forearm/elbow to the neck and lower jaw area is pretty bad, i think i'd rather take a shot in the face before i'd take a shot in the neck ....

 

You would have to be blind to not see how Stu Jackson is going after Kobe.
Sure bad hits on kobe's part but that happens so much in so many games, all around the league. But I guess when kobe does it he gets a suspension its not a suprise. Your telling me if Lebron did that they would suspend him? lol dont think so..

 

This is a F88kin joke. Thats what it is. The bias is so obvious.

 

Things that make you go, hmmmmmmmmm! I guess the L does seem a little suspect. First of all, if you see footage of past games you will see that, that's how Kobe plays. So what the damn deal? Why are they now deciding to suspend him this season for stuff he's been doing all along? Secondly, Stu is messing up. It does seem like they didn't want to mess up ratings... The L needs to check themselves. Those are just my thoughts and opinions.

 

Shape, that push by Bogut isn't suspension worthy, but definitely deserves a fine. Of course, I can't really account for what the league does, as they've yet to show any sort of consistency.

 

Yeah, how is pushing somebody out of bounds even remotely comparable to elbowing somebody in the face?

 

I'm glad I don't have Stu Jackson's job of dealing out suspensions, it is a hard job.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Even though he does deserve to get suspended IMO, that's just BS. They can't let him play against Dallas, and suspend him for something he did on friday against Philly.</div>

Yea, even though he does deserve this suspension this time ... they pretty much used him against the Mavs to get their ratings up.

 

<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe was assessed a Flagrant 1, Bogut was assessed a Flagrant 2. Bogut's shove to the back was clearly intentional and was done out of frustration. It's not shoving Bosh out of bounds, it was the fact Bogut shoved right before Bosh was about to elevate for a dunk.

If the league is going to hand out suspension in response to protecting the players, then they'd be justified in suspending Bogut 1 game. Bosh was barely effected on the play, because he has coordination, but it could've been a lot worse if Bosh landed awkwardly.
</div>I think the league is specifically worried about people taking blows to the head/face. I do agree with you guys that the league isn't consistent with its penalties, but I also agree that people should be penalized for their actions when they're involved in such a dangerous play.

 

Shape, the game was played in Milwaukee, so he was giving the middle finger to Bucks fans.

 

<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If the league is going to hand out suspension in response to protecting the players, then they'd be justified in suspending Bogut 1 game. Bosh was barely effected on the play, because he has coordination, but it could've been a lot worse if Bosh landed awkwardly.</div>

So in that case we should suspend players when they jump up and create lots of body contact when contesting layups and dunks. The dunker/layer uper is affected on the play, and if they didn't have cordination, they could land awkwardly.

Remember, this is based on protecting players, not intent.

(Besides, in the video you can clearly see he got pushed before he elevated, not after.)

 

<div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So in that case we should suspend players when they jump up and create lots of body contact when contesting layups and dunks. The dunker/layer uper is affected on the play, and if they didn't have cordination, they could land awkwardly.

Remember, this is based on protecting players, not intent.

(Besides, in the video you can clearly see he got pushed before he elevated, not after.)</div>
The double standard is pretty obvious, people are blind not to see it.. Even if he wasn't in the air he was pushed towards the fans and media crew which could have been just as dangerous. But its not a secret that Kobe has alot of people that don't like him its obvious in some of the media and with Stu Jackson.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So in that case we should suspend players when they jump up and create lots of body contact when contesting layups and dunks. The dunker/layer uper is affected on the play, and if they didn't have cordination, they could land awkwardly.

Remember, this is based on protecting players, not intent.

(Besides, in the video you can clearly see he got pushed before he elevated, not after.)</div>This is a pointless argument right here. The reason we think he should get suspended is because it was INTENTIONAL, please read that again, INTENTIONAL. Bosh had a clear path to the basket and Bogut shoved him. It's not like Bogut was beneath the hoop going up to block him. No, Bosh blew by him and Bogut shoved out of frustration. I'm sorry, but what you're talking about is completely different. What you speak of is accidental contact and natural contact that's bound to happen in the game, especially down low in the post. What Bogut did was completely different and uncalled for.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">This is a pointless argument right here. The reason we think he should get suspended is because it was INTENTIONAL, please read that again, INTENTIONAL. Bosh had a clear path to the basket and Bogut shoved him. It's not like Bogut was beneath the hoop going up to block him. No, Bosh blew by him and Bogut shoved out of frustration. I'm sorry, but what you're talking about is completely different. What you speak of is accidental contact and natural contact that's bound to happen in the game, especially down low in the post. What Bogut did was completely different and uncalled for.</div>

You missed the point.

This is what shapecity said:
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If the league is going to hand out suspension in response to protecting the players, then they'd be justified in suspending Bogut 1 game. Bosh was barely effected on the play, because he has coordination, but it could've been a lot worse if Bosh landed awkwardly.</div>

So in essence, he is saying that Bogut should get suspended because Bosh was "effected on the play" and that he could have landed awkwardly. So in the same way, players who are contested AGGRESIVLELY are affected and have a chance of being hurt. Some players are legitimately contesting shots, but others use excess force if they are mad, etc.

Given, it's a ridiculous arguement, but it's just as ridiculous as what I was countering.

But once again, my only point was that this was uncomparable to Kobe's elbows. There's no need to take it any further. I think Bogut was an idiot for pushing Bosh, and that he should get a fine. Maybe even a suspension for being such a poor sport.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">This is a pointless argument right here. The reason we think he should get suspended is because it was INTENTIONAL, please read that again, INTENTIONAL. Bosh had a clear path to the basket and Bogut shoved him. It's not like Bogut was beneath the hoop going up to block him. No, Bosh blew by him and Bogut shoved out of frustration. I'm sorry, but what you're talking about is completely different. What you speak of is accidental contact and natural contact that's bound to happen in the game, especially down low in the post. What Bogut did was completely different and uncalled for.</div>

Bogut was ejected from the game -- he was assessed a flagrant-2 (I believe) and ejected. That's he appropriate ruling there.

The case could be made that Kobe should have been simply ejected on the first hit. The suspension is like a delayed ejection. As for the second hit, repeat offense typically warrants a stiffer punishment.

 

<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The case could be made that Kobe should have been simply ejected on the first hit. The suspension is like a delayed ejection. As for the second hit, repeat offense typically warrants a stiffer punishment.</div>

Yeah but from the referees point of view, Kobe just accidently caught someone in the face with an elbow (the first time). You can't just eject someone after that. And as far as I know, they can't view the replays during the game.(?) I assume after the league reviewed the video, they then came to the conclusion that it was either on purpose, or way too unnatural, etc.