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    Staely hasn't been healthy for 2 or 3 years so to say he is any form of consistent threat would be wrong, if healthy you would be right. But look what Gado was working with last year, him Favre, and Driver were the onyl true weapons last year behind an interior O-Line my Grandma could have broken through, and yet he still average 4 yards a carry, while Parker had the constant help of Bettis, a great O-Line, one and 3 other weapons on offense with Ward, Randle-EL and Miller.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>First of all, don't compare Gado to the starting RB for the super bowl champs, because he has no where near the speed and explosiveness that Parker has. Second Franks is not going to scare any defense this year, he will certainly not help Drvier any. The fact that you are telling me how crisp your WR is running routes in the OTAs as the basis of why you will win games tells me you got nothin. Let me ask you this, say some of your WRs do start to develop, say Gado becomes a good starting RB, say your young TE takes over the starting role. Wouldn't you rather that all happened along with your franchise QB of the future rather than Favre?? Brett Favre is only hurting this team by staying. They are not a playoff team. They need to develop their QB along with the rest of the team and be realistic in their chances of making the playoffs. Pretending that they can make any kind of run this year or next may end up hurting them a few years from now, after letting their QB miss valuable experience so Favre can keep heaving prayers down the middle of the field.</div>
    I agree that Gado is no Willie Parker.

    I disagree that Favre is hurting the team. If you watched Aaron Rodgers practice, he's not ready. He needs to be brought along slowly. Plus this is a tad different system from last year so it's better if Rodgers sits and learns. Throwing a QB that is not ready yet to the pack of wolves is what would hurt this teams future. He's being brought along the same way the Jets brought Chad Pennington and if it wasn't for injuries, that worked out very well for them. So 1 more year behind Favre doesn't hurt. Also Favre can still physically play the game. Mentally he needs to get better. If you took the time to read my post above you would realize that. If you watched any Packer games, you would realize that. He'll have a better year this year. That I'm sure of.

    Bubba Franks has been to 3 Pro Bowls. He doesn't need to put ?fear? in defenses. Green Bay runs the West Coast offense. Unlike KC or SD, TE is not the teams #1 option. It is their #2 or #3. Franks has great hands, and is a great blocker. That is the type of TE, the West Coast offense uses. GB has much better WR?s than they did last year. Last year they didn?t have near the depth they have this year. Last year they had 3 receivers for most of the year. This year they have 6 healthy one?s.

    As for the Pack not doing anything. You have very little knowledge of the team.

    1. I don't think anyone said they were going to make a playoff run. 7-9 or 8-8 is probably not going to make the playoffs.

    2. The NFC is weak so it isn't that far fetched for this team to get the #6 spot. They lost 6 games last year by 6 points or less. They had more injuries to their team than anyone. They won't win the division but they certainly COULD make a small run at the playoffs. I'm sure the Bears couldn't win the division last year but they did.

    3. Every team in the NFC North has their problems. The Bears did nothing to their offense so if the defense doesn't match their performance of last season, their going to be vulnerable.

    The Vikings have a new regime but their offense has questions at QB and their defense isn't near as good as the Bears. They could win anywhere from 6 to 10 games. A lot of their Fans are either happy how their team is, and others don?t know what is going on.

    The Lions are the worse franchise this decade. They haven't found a QB. Kitna has had ONE good year. McCowan is a joke. They don't have the right players on offense to fit their Martz system. Bad O-Line. New defensive scheme. No way is it a reach to put the Packers ahead of the Lions. Lions will finish with 7 wins at most and I wouldn?t put my money on that many.

    The NFC North plays a very "easy" schedule on paper. They play the NFC West.

    If I had to guess.

    1. Bears 11-5
    2. Vikings 9-7
    3. Packers 8-8
    4. Lions 6-10

    The fact that I read that Kevin Jones has talent, and Ahman Green doesn't because of "injuries" proves that this is nothing more than a weak attempt to bash a team you hate because you were sick of them winning every year. Which they did since 1992 before last year. Kevin Jones is one of the most un-durable backs in the NFL and has been since his days at VT. . Also the fact that Staley is ready to take over and Green can't be a difference any longer also proves my point. By no means are the Pack going to do anything big but by no means are they won one of the 5 worse teams in football.
     
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    But look what Gado was working with last year, him Favre, and Driver were the onyl true weapons last year behind an interior O-Line my Grandma could have broken through"............couldn?t have said it better myself. Much of the same this year I must say. I heard Sirius NFL radio talking about the O-line you guys have coming back, lets just say they didn?t sound too optimistic. Let me break down the Staley situation for you. When Staley got injured, there was no need for them to rush him back. Bettis was doing a great job filling in, Parker emerged as a great second threat and Verron Haynes does a great job on third downs. We had so many good RBs that we released Noah Herron so he could go compete to be your starter. Not that Herron doesn?t have talent; he just wasn?t good enough for Pittsburgh. So why not let Staley rehab through the year if Bettis is going to retire at the end of the season? Staley has showed that he can be injury prone if asked to carry the load. Fortunately, we have Parker to take at least half the carries....... Staley is a talented back, I think allot of people forget that.....
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>But look what Gado was working with last year, him Favre, and Driver were the onyl true weapons last year behind an interior O-Line my Grandma could have broken through"............couldn?t have said it better myself. Much of the same this year I must say. I heard Sirius NFL radio talking about the O-line you guys have coming back, lets just say they didn?t sound too optimistic. Let me break down the Staley situation for you. When Staley got injured, there was no need for them to rush him back. Bettis was doing a great job filling in, Parker emerged as a great second threat and Verron Haynes does a great job on third downs. We had so many good RBs that we released Noah Herron so he could go compete to be your starter. Not that Herron doesn?t have talent; he just wasn?t good enough for Pittsburgh. So why not let Staley rehab through the year if Bettis is going to retire at the end of the season? Staley has showed that he can be injury prone if asked to carry the load. Fortunately, we have Parker to take at least half the carries....... Staley is a talented back, I think allot of people forget that.....</div>
    The O-line is completely different from last year. Scott Wells out played Mike Flanagan last year and is the starter at Center now. We have brand new guards. Out of the 4 guys competing for the job, all 4 are younger guys and all 4 fit the zone scheme. We have a brand new zone blocking scheme that should make it much easier on the lineman and it's a perfect fit for Gado, Green, and Davenport. Our lineman are young and should be able to hold up all year long. Early on I expect a struggle but as the year goes on and as the guys adjust to the zone scheme, they should get better. Last year the Packers offensive line wasn't near as bad as people make it out too be. We finished right around 16th in sacks. It's hard to give a fair assessment to the run game when, all 4 of your backs are injured. Ahman Green has been to the Pro Bowl 3 times in a roll before last years injury. Duce Staley I believe hasn't been to one. Saying Duce can play and Ahman can't, shows bias and inconsistency in my opinion.

    Why compare the Packers to the Steelers? Green Bay should be better than last year unless they suffer the amount of injuries they had last year. Pittsburgh is the defending Champs. Is this just to rub it in the face of the Packers? We're the Champs and your not! Pitt can do that to anyone but do you have more NFL Titles than anyone? No..

    Green Bay isn't focusing on Pittsburgh right now and neither are the fans. GB is focusing on the 2006 season in which they should improve. The team is young, has some talent, had a solid off season. They're not going to win the Super Bowl and probably won't make the playoffs but our money was handled wisely, so we have some for next year. I'm hoping Green Bay puts together a season like Miami did last year. Asking for 7 or 8 wins isn?t much of a reach at all.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Staley is a talented back, I think allot of people forget that.....</div>
    With all of the injuries he's had over the past few years, he's made it really easy for people to forget that.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Look, all I am saying is that the Lions are a better team on paper.</div>
    At what position(s)? Quarterback? Receiver? Cornerback? Linebacker? Tight end? O-line? Nope.

    Defensive line, probably. Maybe running back if you give Kevin Jones the benefit of the doubt. Kicker and punter probably as well.

    Detroit will be good one of these years...probably the year after they fire Matt Millen. Unfortunately for Detroit fans, that's not this year.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Look, all I am saying is that the Lions are a better team on paper.</div>
    I do not know who originally drug out this tired cliche but there is another which goes, "that is why they play they games."

    For several seasons after 2001, The Rams were supposed to be world beaters, the next dynasty, etc... and look what they have accomplished. They have slid back into the mediocrity they are so famous for.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Look, all I am saying is that the Lions are a better team on paper.</div>
    I do not know who originally drug out this tired cliche but there is another which goes, "that is why they play they games."

    For several seasons after 2001, The Rams were supposed to be world beaters, the next dynasty, etc... and look what they have accomplished. They have slid back into the mediocrity they are so famous for.</div>
    Weren't the Lions good on paper every year that Millen has been GM? I think it's been something like that.

    I wouldn't even call the Lions good on paper.

    QB 3 backups
    RB Injury proned KJ and a rookie
    WR Roy Williamd Corey Bradford and 2 1st round bench warmers
    TE Marcus Pollard is pretty good
    O Line sucks
    DE They're okay but not great
    DT I'll give them that. They're solid there
    LB 2 underachievers and a rookie
    DB Dre Bly and who?

    That seems like the formula of a 6-10 record too me. Then again when your the Lions + Matt Millen = 6 wins at most.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>First of all, don't compare Gado to the starting RB for the super bowl champs, because he has no where near the speed and explosiveness that Parker has. Second Franks is not going to scare any defense this year, he will certainly not help Drvier any. The fact that you are telling me how crisp your WR is running routes in the OTAs as the basis of why you will win games tells me you got nothin. Let me ask you this, say some of your WRs do start to develop, say Gado becomes a good starting RB, say your young TE takes over the starting role. Wouldn't you rather that all happened along with your franchise QB of the future rather than Favre?? Brett Favre is only hurting this team by staying. They are not a playoff team. They need to develop their QB along with the rest of the team and be realistic in their chances of making the playoffs. Pretending that they can make any kind of run this year or next may end up hurting them a few years from now, after letting their QB miss valuable experience so Favre can keep heaving prayers down the middle of the field.</div>
    3. Every team in the NFC North has their problems. The Bears did nothing to their offense so if the defense doesn't match their performance of last season, their going to be vulnerable.</div>
    Well your right and wrong... We didn't do to much to the offense but like the packers we had injuries and those guys are back now.. with muhammad, bradly, and berrian and a few other reciver options.. We still have desmond Clark who like Franks is good at blocking and Goaline plays.. We have Grossman Back and healthy and with experiance under this system he will play very well... Playoff game vs the panthers should show that.. we have Benson, and if he plays Thomas Jones aswell so i am thinking without the devistation of injuries agian we should be just fine.. Oh and if we do lose grossman we have alot better of a QB to come in a fill the void in Greise
     
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    I can't beleive you people are arguing over which hopeless NFC North team is better. Truth of the matter is neither one will make the playoffs this year. I think its an outrage that The cowboys are in the top ten. Thats ridiculous honestly, Drew Bledsoe is one of the most overrated QB's ever, he couldnt get it done with Eric Moulds in his prime, what makes people think he can do it with a 30 something cancer who hasnt played since what week 8 or so?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giantsfan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>I can't beleive you people are arguing over which hopeless NFC North team is better. Truth of the matter is neither one will make the playoffs this year. I think its an outrage that The cowboys are in the top ten. Thats ridiculous honestly, Drew Bledsoe is one of the most overrated QB's ever, he couldnt get it done with Eric Moulds in his prime, what makes people think he can do it with a 30 something cancer who hasnt played since what week 8 or so?</div>
    Drew Bledsoe has had a very underrated career. He's thrown for over 40,000 yards and has been to a Super Bowl.

    Also that 30 year old cancer who is at his prime, is far more talented than Eric Moulds in his prime.
     
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    Why compare the Packers to the Steelers? Green Bay should be better than last year unless they suffer the amount of injuries they had last year. Pittsburgh is the defending Champs. Is this just to rub it in the face of the Packers? We're the Champs and your not! Pitt can do that to anyone but do you have more NFL Titles than anyone? No..


    Your boy packer fan from florida called out the Steelers. Comparing your third string running back to Willie parker, just trying to set him straight. I didnt compare any other part of your team to the champs. Do we have more NFL titles than anyone?... no but we are tied for the lead and poised to take it over.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Gado averaged 4.1 yards a carry last season behind an injury filled team... Yes parker averaged 4.7 but he had alot of help in big ben, and the bus, and mr. SB mvp hines ward.. the packers were dismal last season so for gado to come in and average 4.1 is impressive.. he did pretty good agianst the bears last year.. Pitt beat the hell out of us but if i remember correctly it was the bus who beat our ass.. parker on got like 60 some odd yards on 21 carries agianst the bears.. so if i had to choose i would rather have Gado..</div>
    well, its a good thing the Steeler scouts use more logic than you just did to select our guys. why would you take Gado again? because Parker had Big Ben instead of Favre behind him? becuase Parker averaged more yards a carry in a whole season than Gado did in half? Because Parker is one of the fastest guys in the league and Gado is average? trying to decifer your reasoning......
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Gado averaged 4.1 yards a carry last season behind an injury filled team... Yes parker averaged 4.7 but he had alot of help in big ben, and the bus, and mr. SB mvp hines ward.. the packers were dismal last season so for gado to come in and average 4.1 is impressive.. he did pretty good agianst the bears last year.. Pitt beat the hell out of us but if i remember correctly it was the bus who beat our ass.. parker on got like 60 some odd yards on 21 carries agianst the bears.. so if i had to choose i would rather have Gado..</div>
    well, its a good thing the Steeler scouts use more logic than you just did to select our guys. why would you take Gado again? because Parker had Big Ben instead of Favre behind him? becuase Parker averaged more yards a carry in a whole season than Gado did in half? Because Parker is one of the fastest guys in the league and Gado is average? trying to decifer your reasoning......</div>
    I am not differing my reason and if u think back Parker was the 3rd string runner to... how did he get the job??? injuries maybe??? is that right??? yea i think it is.. Gado was more consistant if u look at gado's stats if he would have started all 16 games and would have kept up the same pace he was going for 1500 yards.. Parker had a handful of great games but was mediocre on the others... Atleast Gado was consistant... U are basing Parker to be so Great cause they went to the superbowl.. would we be having this discussion had GB won it? no.. we wouldn't.. Put parker in GB and see what happens.. He maybe fast but keep him inside and its going to be a mediocre day for him
     
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    Week Date Opp Score Att Yds Y/A Lng TD Rec Yds Y/R Lng TD Fum FumL
    1 Sep 11 TEN W 34-7 22 161 7.3 45 1 1 48 48.0 48 0 0 0
    2 Sep 18 @ HOU W 27-7 25 111 4.4 19 1 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
    3 Sep 25 NWE L 20-23 17 55 3.2 11 0 1 -6 -6.0 -6 0 0 0
    4 bye
    5 Oct 10 @ SDG W 24-22 10 26 2.6 14 0 1 14 14.0 14 0 0 0
    6 Oct 16 JAC L 17-23 21 55 2.6 12 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 0
    7 Oct 23 @ CIN W 27-13 18 131 7.3 37 1 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
    8 Oct 31 BAL W 20-19 14 63 4.5 16 0 2 18 9.0 10 0 0 0
    9 Nov 6 @ GNB W 20-10 5 13 2.6 8 0 1 10 10.0 10 0 0 0
    10 Nov 13 CLE
    11 Nov 20 @ BAL L 13-16 18 59 3.3 14 0 2 22 11.0 11 1 0 0
    12 Nov 28 @ IND L 7-26 12 43 3.6 24 0 4 23 5.8 7 0 0 0
    13 Dec 4 CIN L 31-38 15 71 4.7 17 0 1 11 11.0 11 0 2 0
    14 Dec 11 CHI W 21-9 21 68 3.2 11 0 2 45 22.5 45 0 1 0
    15 Dec 18 @ MIN W 18-3 14 81 5.8 49 0 2 16 8.0 9 0 0 0
    16 Dec 24 @ CLE W 41-0 17 130 7.6 80 1 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
    17 Jan 1 DET W 35-21 26 135 5.2 21 0 1 17 17.0 17 0 0 0
    Total 255 1202 4.7 80 4 18 218 12.1 48 1 4 0

    those are parkers stats.. the games he exploded on the teams didn't even make the playoffs.. lol and the GB game is killing me 2.8 yard average longest of 8.. Parker only seems to get it done on mediocre teams
     
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    Parker won the job outright, Staley was ready to go toward the end of the year, Haynes was healthy and Bettis was healthy.....in fact, Pittsburgh was so confident in Parker that they released Herron so he could go play for the Packers. Gado started because they had nobody else, Parker started because he is good.

    Gado had a 4.1 yards a carry average......also against some very mediocre teams.

    The 2.8 yd per carry Parker average in the GB game was based on 5 carries

    "Gado was more consistant if u look at gado's stats if he would have started all 16 games and would have kept up the same pace he was going for 1500 yards.. "

    How can a guy that averaged less yards per carry in half as many games be considered MORE consistent? doesnt make sense...also since when does 582 = 582 = 1500??


    "Atleast Gado was consistant... U are basing Parker to be so Great cause they went to the superbowl.. would we be having this discussion had GB won it? no.. we wouldn't.. "

    again the consistent claim...makes no sense and I would absolutely argue that Parker was a better back if you handed me these stats Champs or not....he had more yards per carry and he did it all year long against alot of tough run defenses whether they made the playoffs or not.

    Gado did have 62 yards against the Steelers.....ON 26 CARRIES!! a blinding 2.4 yard per carry avg...now thats consistent...consitently mediocre.


    Are you still mad about Bettis pushing Urlacher back three yards into the end zone last year? you sound like you have alot of anti-Steeler feelings...just let it out man, its ok
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>Why compare the Packers to the Steelers? Green Bay should be better than last year unless they suffer the amount of injuries they had last year. Pittsburgh is the defending Champs. Is this just to rub it in the face of the Packers? We're the Champs and your not! Pitt can do that to anyone but do you have more NFL Titles than anyone? No..


    Your boy packer fan from florida called out the Steelers. Comparing your third string running back to Willie parker, just trying to set him straight. I didnt compare any other part of your team to the champs. Do we have more NFL titles than anyone?... no but we are tied for the lead and poised to take it over.</div>
    NFL has been around for a very long time and so have the Steelers and Packers. Green Bay actually has the most with 14 and are the only team ever to win 3 in a row. 3 NFL Titles in a row and then 1 NFL Title and the first two Super Bowls.

    I don't think FP was calling out Parker or the Steelers organization. I think he was more making the comparison that Parker was buried in the depth chart and he broke out. Gado is in a similar situation this year. I remember a lot of Steeler fans thought highly of Parker and were confident in his ability before Week 1. The same could be said about Gado in Green Bay. I actually expect Gado too be the full time starter this year and Green Bay too split with him and Green and use Davenport later in the game if we're up.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>Why compare the Packers to the Steelers? Green Bay should be better than last year unless they suffer the amount of injuries they had last year. Pittsburgh is the defending Champs. Is this just to rub it in the face of the Packers? We're the Champs and your not! Pitt can do that to anyone but do you have more NFL Titles than anyone? No..


    Your boy packer fan from florida called out the Steelers. Comparing your third string running back to Willie parker, just trying to set him straight. I didnt compare any other part of your team to the champs. Do we have more NFL titles than anyone?... no but we are tied for the lead and poised to take it over.</div>
    NFL has been around for a very long time and so have the Steelers and Packers. Green Bay actually has the most with 14 and are the only team ever to win 3 in a row. 3 NFL Titles in a row and then 1 NFL Title and the first two Super Bowls.

    I don't think FP was calling out Parker or the Steelers organization. I think he was more making the comparison that Parker was buried in the depth chart and he broke out. Gado is in a similar situation this year. I remember a lot of Steeler fans thought highly of Parker and were confident in his ability before Week 1. The same could be said about Gado in Green Bay. I actually expect Gado too be the full time starter this year and Green Bay too split with him and Green and use Davenport later in the game if we're up.</div>
    Kinda hard to compare championships before the NFL merged....but the Packers have won more championships and that is a nice accomplishment. But....Nobody has won more Super Bowls than the Black and Gold....probably more fair to compare stats beginning at 1970 considering the competition was not really the same prior to that.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>Parker won the job outright, Staley was ready to go toward the end of the year, Haynes was healthy and Bettis was healthy.....in fact, Pittsburgh was so confident in Parker that they released Herron so he could go play for the Packers. Gado started because they had nobody else, Parker started because he is good.

    Gado had a 4.1 yards a carry average......also against some very mediocre teams.

    The 2.8 yd per carry Parker average in the GB game was based on 5 carries

    "Gado was more consistant if u look at gado's stats if he would have started all 16 games and would have kept up the same pace he was going for 1500 yards.. "

    How can a guy that averaged less yards per carry in half as many games be considered MORE consistent? doesnt make sense...also since when does 582 = 582 = 1500??


    "Atleast Gado was consistant... U are basing Parker to be so Great cause they went to the superbowl.. would we be having this discussion had GB won it? no.. we wouldn't.. "

    again the consistent claim...makes no sense and I would absolutely argue that Parker was a better back if you handed me these stats Champs or not....he had more yards per carry and he did it all year long against alot of tough run defenses whether they made the playoffs or not.

    Gado did have 62 yards against the Steelers.....ON 26 CARRIES!! a blinding 2.4 yard per carry avg...now thats consistent...consitently mediocre.


    Are you still mad about Bettis pushing Urlacher back three yards into the end zone last year? you sound like you have alot of anti-Steeler feelings...just let it out man, its ok</div>
    Am i mad that bettis pushed urlacher back 3 yards??? ummm no.. see The steelers beat us down i will admit it.. oh well shit happens... And going into the season Bettis was hurt, and so was Staley, Haynes is a 3rd down rb.. so Parker had to start week 1.. Yes when the bus was back they split carries which allowed Parker to excel it was a 1 2 punch for Pitt.. i just don't think Parker will be near as effective this season with out the bus being there.. Gado did it with no help.. so u might aswell drop trying to convince me Parker is Better... This is my opinion and that is yours.. and just because u don't agree with me or the way i think doesn't mean i am wrong for my beliefs.. I will Pick gado over parker till i see parker do it without the bus to back him up
     
  19. manofsteel

    manofsteel nfl-*****s member

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>Parker won the job outright, Staley was ready to go toward the end of the year, Haynes was healthy and Bettis was healthy.....in fact, Pittsburgh was so confident in Parker that they released Herron so he could go play for the Packers. Gado started because they had nobody else, Parker started because he is good.

    Gado had a 4.1 yards a carry average......also against some very mediocre teams.

    The 2.8 yd per carry Parker average in the GB game was based on 5 carries

    "Gado was more consistant if u look at gado's stats if he would have started all 16 games and would have kept up the same pace he was going for 1500 yards.. "

    How can a guy that averaged less yards per carry in half as many games be considered MORE consistent? doesnt make sense...also since when does 582 = 582 = 1500??


    "Atleast Gado was consistant... U are basing Parker to be so Great cause they went to the superbowl.. would we be having this discussion had GB won it? no.. we wouldn't.. "

    again the consistent claim...makes no sense and I would absolutely argue that Parker was a better back if you handed me these stats Champs or not....he had more yards per carry and he did it all year long against alot of tough run defenses whether they made the playoffs or not.

    Gado did have 62 yards against the Steelers.....ON 26 CARRIES!! a blinding 2.4 yard per carry avg...now thats consistent...consitently mediocre.


    Are you still mad about Bettis pushing Urlacher back three yards into the end zone last year? you sound like you have alot of anti-Steeler feelings...just let it out man, its ok</div>
    Am i mad that bettis pushed urlacher back 3 yards??? ummm no.. see The steelers beat us down i will admit it.. oh well shit happens... And going into the season Bettis was hurt, and so was Staley, Haynes is a 3rd down rb.. so Parker had to start week 1.. Yes when the bus was back they split carries which allowed Parker to excel it was a 1 2 punch for Pitt.. i just don't think Parker will be near as effective this season with out the bus being there.. Gado did it with no help.. so u might aswell drop trying to convince me Parker is Better... This is my opinion and that is yours.. and just because u don't agree with me or the way i think doesn't mean i am wrong for my beliefs.. I will Pick gado over parker till i see parker do it without the bus to back him up</div>
    well, nobody with any football sense around the country will agree with you, but you're right.....you are entitled to your opinion even if it is so obviously wrong. My guess is that you dont make much money betting on sports do you?
     
  20. Bears#1Fan

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    I don't bet on sports.. not that i don't think i wouldn't be good at it but thats alittle different.. i would pick pitt to win over GB anytime cause Pitt is a better team by far.. I am not a retard when it comes to football its not like i woke up yesterday and said ya know i think i will join an nfl forum just so i can talk about something i know nothing about.. I will give Parker his due he is a decent back.. but my Pref right now is with Gado.. And next year could be with parker Just depends on how each do in the up comming season.. My personal belief is that Gado would have done better in the Pittsburgh situation.. Or parker wouldn't have done all that great in the GB situation Not that Gado was this threat but given the situation i think he preformed very well.. Brett Favre threw 29 ints last season that says you have basically no passing game at all.. The defense had 2 jobs last season when playing GB gaurd Driver, and stop The rushing attack thats it that all a D had to do last year... Now look at Pitt when playing Pitt the Defense had many things to prepare for... Force big ben to make mistakes, gaurd Ward, Find where randle el is and what he is doing.. Try to figure out the 1,2 punch in the rush game and lets not forget miller the TE Defenses had alot harder of a job playing Pitt last season then they Did GB why??? weapons thats why.. Its alot easier to run the ball when the defense has to gaurd so many options
     

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