<div class="quote_poster">Trench Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Whats amazing is that the two Grizz had a great game as well. Gasol and Miller both had big nights, but Kobe came up bigger.!</div> Yeah, and he had 17 points in the fourth quarter; talk about clutch and prolific at the same time. Though the Portland game was when he really showed off his clutch skills. Kobe has the second most 60 points games ever, and the third most 50 point games ever...
Bull....light I MISS THIS GAME! shhhh had a class lesson at night and didn't really notice until now...I miss the history in the making. Anybody know if KCAL9 going to reair this game? PLEASE, I WANT TO SEE THIS GAME!!
Talk about impressive. At the moment, I think it's pretty difficult to argue against Kobe being the best player in the league. Heh, maybe this could make a case for MVP? In case you guys haven't noticed, but as Kobe goes, we've been going as of recent. So, while I don't think he'll get it (certainly top 5), this recent stretch of games most certainly won't hurt him.
<div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well Shaq dominated a game like nobody has ever seen, but that doesn't mean he was the greatest player of all time either. Kobe is great, but I wouldn't place him above Jordan just yet.</div> Shaq is (or was) 7'1, 350lbs though, and the strongest player in the league, thats the only reason he has dominated so much during his career, due to his sheer size. The guy cant even shoot the ball properly, thats how oversized he is. I'm placing Kobe over MJ already, MJ has some greater accomplishments thus far, but I feel as though Kobe is the better <u>player</u> of the 2, I just cant fathom the stuff Kobe does, and how he is able to just turn it on when he wants to aswell. MJ had a very similar game to Kobe, the similarties are uncanny, although MJ never really "wowed" me as much as Kobe has been able to. MJ never had this many big performances.
<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq is (or was) 7'1, 350lbs though, and the strongest player in the league, thats the only reason he has dominated so much during his career, due to his sheer size. The guy cant even shoot the ball properly, thats how oversized he is. I'm placing Kobe over MJ already, MJ has some greater accomplishments thus far, but I feel as though Kobe is the better <u>player</u> of the 2, I just cant fathom the stuff Kobe does, and how he is able to just turn it on when he wants to aswell. MJ had a very similar game to Kobe, the similarties are uncanny, although MJ never really "wowed" me as much as Kobe has been able to. MJ never had this many big performances.</div> i think your spot on there but jordan was more of a winner and thats where the argument rests with most people. kobe fans can give a ton of credible reasons for kobe being the better of the two, but jordan fans will allways have the old "jordan has more rings" or "kobe had shaq". in my opinion, yes, kobe is the better of the two, but until kobe gets as many or more rings than jordan, he wont be the consenses pick for number one of all time.
I dont like that "Kobe had Shaq arguement", because to be fair, Jordan had Pippen, and later in his career, Rodman, Steve Kerr, Toni Kukoc, Paxson etc. etc. who wernt exactly scrubs either. Look at who Kobe is playing with now, outside of Lamar Odom, he's playing with guys like Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Kwame Brown, not exactly a good crop of players, and yet they're still in the race for the playoffs.
<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I dont like that "Kobe had Shaq arguement", because to be fair, Jordan had Pippen, and later in his career, Rodman, Steve Kerr, Toni Kukoc, Paxson etc. etc. who wernt exactly scrubs either. Look at who Kobe is playing with now, outside of Lamar Odom, he's playing with guys like Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Kwame Brown, not exactly a good crop of players, and yet they're still in the race for the playoffs.</div> yeah well thats what im saying, the argument is stupid, but it doesnt stop the majority of jordan fans using it as something that ranks kobe under jordan
OMG FOR SOME OF YOU WHO MISS THIS GAME! KCAL9 WILL REAIR THEM AT 1:30PM pacific time! wooo hoooooo, gotta luv Kobe proving he's in the league with Jordan, wilt, baylor, kareem when it comes of scoring.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Lol are you serious here buddy??? I don't like Kobe because he doesn't have the complete game as the other great players did. I guaranty that he won't win another tittle while scoring 60 in a game!!!! The only positive thing I see from this crap is that he again became the ballhog KOBE BRYANT we always knew. The players that I respect are Gilbert Arenas, Dirk,Nash,T-mac those are the players who really care about the game and they don't just play to put up stats!!!!! And i've seen many of you said he still has 10 years to go lmao ....thats retarded to say he is already almost 29 so you saying he will play till 39 lmao ...... I hope he does. Without that Jump he is nothing !!!!!</div>Are you kidding me??? ~3 Titles. I dont care if you tell me he had Shaq. Jordan had Pippen an elite defender and very capable scorer. Not to mention a solid supporting cast and the GREAT PJAX. ~9 Time NBA All-Star He's only 29. As Jordan aged, he relied more on his jumpshot. Im sure Kobe will adjust as his vert decreases and still dominate. He is also one of the best conditioned player on and off season. His work ethic is hands down the best. I bet he can still outjump 3/4 of these youngins coming into the NBA. Not to mention his basketball IQ. This guy is getting better every season. ~2 Time NBA All Star MVP ~ 1 scoring Title and a possible 2nd this year with the way he's been playing lately. ~ 6 Time All Defensive Selection. 4 first team and 2 second. Not well rounded? where have you been? He can play both sides of the ball. He has around 30+ Laker records also. That says alot considering the past LEGENDS that played for the Lakers. Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Wilt...damn. Kobe doesn't have a complete game like other greats??? Man, you must be watching another sport because your sure aint watching the NBA. I wont even get into your comment about other players who dont care about stats. Kobe wants to win. He's proved it again and again. Thats the bottomline. His assists have gone up, he put trust in his teammates all season, and you can believe the lakers are going to be a threat to any team in this seasons playoffs. Get your head out of the gutter. Just because you dislike Kobe doesnt mean you can discredit all his accomplishments and FUTURE ACCOMPLISHMENTs. Dont hate because he is compared to your GREAT MICHAEL JORDAN. Fact of the matter is, Kobe is the best in the league. His game proves it. BOTTOMLINE.
Kobe for the win. Another amazing game by Kobe, but I can't help, but complain about the Lakers atrocious defense again. The Lakers are mentally challenged on defense and kept double teaming off of the Grizzlies best shooters on the floor, Atkins & Miller. Smush Parker was giving up layups to Chucky Atkins, you know, the same Chucky Atkins this team cut a couple of seasons ago because he stunk it up in the P&G. I don't understand why PJax and the coaching staff give Smush this much leeway. Smush needs to spend some time in the doghouse IMO, and allow some of the other guards a chance to play with the starters. I really like Shamu's late surge with the team. He was drawing charges and hitting his 3 point shots. Memphis wasn't even guarding him on a few plays and Kobe passed to him twice showing confidence in Shamu being able to hit from the outside. The 3 pointer he drained on the right baseline was a huge shot for us. Lamar Odom quietly had a monster game last night aswell and really stepped up. He was finishing strong for once, and was getting after rebounds. I just hope the team has something left tonight after last night's marathon game. Hornets also play a fast uptempo game, so the Lakers better be alert to start the game and also come out in the second half with a sense of urgency. This is a huge game for us because the Hornets are another team fighting to make the playoffs. Denver lost last night, so the Lakers need to continue this mini win streak and put some distance from the rest of the pack. Congrats to Kobe Bryant joining an elite group of players and making history once again. He tied Jordan for 60 point games with 4, and joined a small group of players who have managed to score 50 points in three consecutive seasons. He also broke his previous record for most points scored at Memphis.
I know this is against the law to say, and I made get killed for it, but I don't care. Kobe is better than Jordan. I said it! He might not have all the rings and the MVP trophies, but he has the skills! Kobe is the greatest of all time!
<div class="quote_poster">KobeTheLegend Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I know this is against the law to say, and I made get killed for it, but I don't care. Kobe is better than Jordan. I said it! He might not have all the rings and the MVP trophies, but he has the skills! Kobe is the greatest of all time!</div> I think they are equally matched. I am sure if MJ want to score alot, he can too whatever he wants. But there was no need for him to do that every night because he got a way better team. Kobe wouldn't do this too if he was in the 90s chicago bulls.
<div class="quote_poster">KobeTheLegend Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I know this is against the law to say, and I made get killed for it, but I don't care. Kobe is better than Jordan. I said it! He might not have all the rings and the MVP trophies, but he has the skills! Kobe is the greatest of all time!</div> i just dont know you anymore man. --why does the 'no' smilie look sad?, in this case it should be a 'no' smilie laughing while he shakes his head..
<div class="quote_poster">notMuchgame Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">big game james worthy said it best, kobe might not be as great as mj yet, but mj probably couldn't do what kobe has done either. i think i can agree to that</div> Wait, what? MJ can't do what Kobe has done? MJ is one of the now 4 players with 50+ pts in 3 consecutive games, and Kobe has now tied MJ with 4 60+ pt games in their careers.... or am I mistaken? An amazing performance, and Kobe is definitely the best player in the NBA at the moment. But pure physical basketball talent and skill does not guarantee you the title of greatest of all time. MJ was MUCH more than just raw skill. If Kobe manages to win a few more titles with this team, then maybe you have something. And comparing Shaq, one of the most dominant, if not THE most dominant, centers of all time...... to Scottie Pippen......
<div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> Wait, what? MJ can't do what Kobe has done? MJ is one of the now 4 players with 50+ pts in 3 consecutive games, and Kobe has now tied MJ with 4 60+ pt games in their careers.... or am I mistaken? An amazing performance, and Kobe is definitely the best player in the NBA at the moment. But pure physical basketball talent and skill does not guarantee you the title of greatest of all time. MJ was MUCH more than just raw skill. If Kobe manages to win a few more titles with this team, then maybe you have something. And comparing Shaq, one of the most dominant, if not THE most dominant, centers of all time...... to Scottie Pippen...... </div> That's quite true, but MJ did have a good cast of supporting characters in an era that wasn't as strong as the 80's.
I hate the Kobe had Shaq argument. If Kobe had Duncan the Lakers would have won 8 titles by now. Shaq is the reason the Lakers didn't win more titles, he was never in shape and wasn't motivated during the course of a season. People forget, the humble, motivated Shaq in Miami is not the same person in his final few seasons in Los Angeles. If Shaq was willing to play for the $20Million Miami is paying him, he'd still be a Laker with Kobe. However, Shaq demanded $33Million a year, 1/3 of the salary cap to remain a Laker. He forced his way out of Los Angeles, not the other way around.
NMG if anyone should get a suspension on the Kobe elbow play it should be Dahntay Jones for flopping. Here's the video of the play VIDEO Kobe was quoted saying if Dahntay Jones doesn't admit he flopped on the play he's a LIAR. EDIT: Exact quote "If he says he didn't flop, he's a liar," Bryant said. "He knows what he did."
this was a topic on mike and mike in the morning this morning on espn radio. They both agreed that kobe was a better <u>scorer</u> than jordan. They didnt say that he was better than MJ overall <u>yet</u>. in my mind, there just about equal. kobe is still young and by the end of his career, i think he will be better than MJ reply to kobethelegend
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">NMG if anyone should get a suspension on the Kobe elbow play it should be Dahntay Jones for flopping. Here's the video of the play VIDEO Kobe was quoted saying if Dahntay Jones doesn't admit he flopped on the play he's a LIAR. EDIT: Exact quote "If he says he didn't flop, he's a liar," Bryant said. "He knows what he did."</div> See, now that just pisses me off. You know very well how Kobe and his other elbows pissed me off, but this... such a blatant flop. And he was probably aware of Kobe's latest 'situation' with elbows and just wanted to make it worse. I would fine that chump 100,000$ for that. That's why I support NBA's latest flopping ideas.
