Van Gundy Wants All Teams in the Lottery

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  1. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Dallas Mavericks with the No. 1 pick in the 2007 NBA draft? If Rockets coach Jeff Van Gundy had his way, that could happen.

    Van Gundy wants to open up the NBA draft lottery to all 30 NBA teams in an effort to keep teams from losing intentionally to hopefully secure the No. 1 pick.

    "I think every team should have an equal chance at winning the lottery, from the best team all the way down," Van Gundy told The Houston Chronicle. "I don't want to accuse anyone of anything. I would say to take away any possible conflict of interest, everyone should have an equal chance at the top pick all the way down. That way there would be absolutely no question by anybody about anything.</div>

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  2. Chutney

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    How would that stop teams from intentionally losing? If anything, the teams that know they are out of it would try even harder to tank so their odds would improve.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">How would that stop teams from intentionally losing? If anything, the teams that know they are out of it would try even harder to tank so their odds would improve.</div>
    From the article SVG said:
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think every team should have an equal chance at winning the lottery, from the best team all the way down,</div>The best team would have the same chance to win the lottery as the worst team in his system.
     
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    I like the suggestion one of the people commenting on the article posted. Any team not in the playoffs should have equal odds in the lottery.
     
  5. Chutney

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    Oh, my bad. I must've missed that. I guess that makes sense, although I don't see why you'd have to extend it to playoff teams. Why not just give all non-playoff teams the same chance in the lottery?
     
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    What an incredibly stupid suggestion. For every team to have the same chance at a number one pick would be insane. This would mean that the lower ranked teams would have less of a chance of improving their franchise.
     
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    every team not in the playoffs makes more sense to me....everyone having an equal chance might end up in multiple dynasties for a couple of teams.
     
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    Yea I think The Dream's idea would be good. The teams not in the playoffs get a shot at the lottery and all have an equal chance.

    The only problem would be if a team is legitimately terrible and could not acquire free agents, and has no way to improve and has a low chance of winning the #1-3.

    But I think it would increase the competitiveness of the lower teams, because they would have no benefit for losing.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">every team not in the playoffs makes more sense to me....everyone having an equal chance might end up in multiple dynasties for a couple of teams.</div>

    Bingo. This would prevent teams from (completely) tanking the season, as well as still give the worst team in the league the better prospects coming out in college. The idea thrown out about the entire league getting equal chance is just ludicrous in my mind.
     
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    What about bad teams that have a chance of getting the 8th seed, but know they have no shot at advancing? If there's a choice between having a 1/7 shot at Durant or Oden, versus a certain first round elimination, what would they prefer?
     
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    Oops I posted this in the Rockets forum, cause I thought it should belong there....I think its an interesting idea, because it would keep teams from losing on purpose just to improve their draft chances. It would force teams to be more active in free agency too, so they could improve thier team right away.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">LAKERSKB8 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What an incredibly stupid suggestion. For every team to have the same chance at a number one pick would be insane. This would mean that the lower ranked teams would have less of a chance of improving their franchise.</div>
    Exactly. It's the dumbest suggest I've heard of. Are you telling me a team like Dallas deserves to get a number 1 over the Bobcats? If this went thru, the talent level in this league would onesided. JVG should stop making idiotic comments like these and worry about activating Bonzi for the playoffs.
     
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    I don`t agree with Van Gundy. The lottery is made to help the worse teams with the worse records. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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    Van Gundy did recognize the reason things are they way they are -- parity. I don't think he was being fully serious when he said it.

    I think he also said at the beginning of the season that he doesn't think players should "foul out." He thinks giving up free throws is penalty enough for fouls. That's one I actually happen to agree with.

    Both of these "modest proposals" would also happen to benefit the Rockets. We're always worrying about Yao fouling out, and of course being in the playoffs we'd love a chance at the lottery.
     
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    Of course having a team that makes the playoffs he's willing to say this, but if he was the Bobcats coach, he wouldn't be saying it. I actually think it wouldn't be bad for all the non playoff teams, or maybe under .500 by more than 5 games or something like that teams to have an equal chance in the lottery. This way, there's no actual benefit to tanking games, and teams will still be trying to improve as much as possible through the season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What about bad teams that have a chance of getting the 8th seed, but know they have no shot at advancing? If there's a choice between having a 1/7 shot at Durant or Oden, versus a certain first round elimination, what would they prefer?</div>
    I don't think I've ever seen a team do that. As good as a player like Durant or Oden might be, those playoff games (a guaranteed 4) bring in extra revenue and legitimacy, and most owners would prefer that over a highly touted prospect. The main problem seems to be with the teams at the bottom of the standings.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">LAKERSKB8 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What an incredibly stupid suggestion. For every team to have the same chance at a number one pick would be insane. This would mean that the lower ranked teams would have less of a chance of improving their franchise.</div>

    <font color=""Orange"">The whole point of the draft is to give the lower teams more chance to improve, his way, The lower teams would never get better, what a fool.</font>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">every team not in the playoffs makes more sense to me....everyone having an equal chance might end up in multiple dynasties for a couple of teams.</div>

    Ditto on this idea.

    I can't imagine the World Champions getting the first pick and landing a player like Durant or Oden. It just wouldn't be very fair...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Heat 4eva Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"><font color=""Orange"">The whole point of the draft is to give the lower teams more chance to improve, his way, The lower teams would never get better, what a fool.</font></div>

    Therefore, every team will try their HARDEST to win games.

    Some teams you can see ... rest players or place them on the "injured list" to tank and stuff. In NBA nowadays, you win ... you get somewhere. You lose ... you still gettin somewhere. With this way, if you lose, you're not going anywhere which should make the teams try harder.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Pakman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Therefore, every team will try their HARDEST to win games.
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    A team like the Bobcats with the talent they have on the roster right now, will never compete with a team like the Mavericks, without getting help from the draft lottery. No matter how hard they play...
     

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