The Bulls And the Draft

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  1. ChicagoSportsFan

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    Now if the Bulls Get the number one or two picks what should we do with it? Should we trade it away for a Good Big man (kg/JO ext.)? Or should draft Oden or Durant.

    We know that Durant is NBA ready and can play IMO 2,3,or 4.
    Oden is Good but his game is probably equal to Tyrus Thomas as of now. Just a guy to throw oops to for easy points. And with our guards utilizing Tyrus Thomas Athletic ability to abuse defenses just think of what we could do with a guy who is 7' with similar athletic ability.

    Would we really need to get a KG?

    This is a tuff choice if you’re Pax. Because if you get those number 1-2 picks Minny Memphis and Indiana would give up their great players for those picks.

    What would you guys do?

    Personally I would Draft Oden because when he and Thomas are in the game together we will be one of the most athletic teams in the league.
    But the problem is Hinrich Duhon would be responsible for the point production of both kids. When a KG or JO are going to create at least 15 points without assistance. Could we win a chip With Oden in the next 2 years? Because of we get a Ready Big (KG) we will be NBA favorites for the finals as soon as we got him.

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  2. M Two One

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    You're not going to get Kevin Garnett for any of those draft picks right now. If the Bulls happened to get the second pick I doubt Oden would be available. We could probably get Durant and either trade him for O'Neal's bloated contract or keep him and use him as a power forward, which the latter would be much better. If the Bulls don't get a high pick they should go for a capable center or a large guard. Though I'd prefer they keep Sefolosha busy instead since he is a lengthy guard as it is. I have a good list going of what we could draft given certain situations.
     
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    The Bulls, as shown in the screen shot, have a 0.8% chance of landing a top pick. I think it will be more worthwhile discussing what should be done with the picks 10-15, since that's where the Knicks will realistically finish the season.
     
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    True, but you can't count out possible chances here. You need to look at things from all angles.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">True, but you can't count out possible chances here. You need to look at things from all angles.</div>
    I understand, just don't hold your breath is what I'm saying.

    Anyway, I hope you guys don't get a top pick or I'll be one disappointed Knick fan. [​IMG]
     
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    In the unlikely situation that you get a chance to draft Oden, I think that's a no-brainer. Even if Durant's still on the board, Oden's fills a need so well (and he's the better prospect IMO).

    More likely, I think Al Horford or Spencer Hawes are the low-post players that the Bulls need. If neither is available at your pick, I think Chicago should just draft the best player available.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You're not going to get Kevin Garnett for any of those draft picks right now. If the Bulls happened to get the second pick I doubt Oden would be available. We could probably get Durant and either trade him for O'Neal's bloated contract or keep him and use him as a power forward, which the latter would be much better. If the Bulls don't get a high pick they should go for a capable center or a large guard. Though I'd prefer they keep Sefolosha busy instead since he is a lengthy guard as it is. I have a good list going of what we could draft given certain situations.</div>

    I know that Browns contract is up but when is sweetneys contract over. We need that capspace!!!

    Can someone create a capspace thread for thr bulls forum that shows the contracts of all of our players. I think that if that info is posted it could add to the bulls forum. Like the standing thread.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I understand, just don't hold your breath is what I'm saying.

    Anyway, I hope you guys don't get a top pick or I'll be one disappointed Knick fan. [​IMG]</div>

    I'm looking at things from all angles, that is what they will teach you when you work with the pros. You can't go into any situation with a direct look, you have to make sure that everything is covered, just in case. This is just luck so you never know what will happen despite the odds. Right now I'm looking at this team picking between 1 and 14 if the Knicks don't make the Playoffs.

    The Bulls cannot draft a small guard, even if that small guard is the best pick available in a lower pick situation. They need a capable center or power forward. If the situation comes that this team cannot get a high pick then I'd hope Tiago Splitter's contract issues are over with because he could play an important role on this team. He works very hard and would fit to Skiles' style of play. On the better hand I think Oden is definitely the best choice, but in the likely situation we don't have the first pick, but have a decent spot then I like Chutney's pick of Al Horford. If that doesn't work then go for a center or best available power foward.

    Player contracts in their last non-exercisable year --

    Malik Allen
    Martynas Andriuskevicius
    Andre Barrett
    P.J. Brown
    Andr?s Nocioni
    Michael Sweetney

    Noce will likely be the only one to return to this team. Allen I give a chance to return and Brown will only be able to return with a different role (coaching or training) or take a massive pay cut. The Bulls won't pay for a contract that large for such a player.
     
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    [quote name='M Two One;797139']

    Malik Allen
    Martynas Andriuskevicius
    Andre Barrett
    P.J. Brown

    Michael Sweetney

    QUOTE]

    I know Browns 8mil
    Sweetny has got to be at least 3mil
    Barret is minimal
    Allen is probably 3 mil also

    That leaves at least 14 mil in capspace?

    Thats not to bad
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">

    Malik Allen
    Martynas Andriuskevicius
    Andre Barrett
    P.J. Brown

    Michael Sweetney

    </div>

    I know Browns 8mil
    Sweetny has got to be at least 3mil
    Barret is minimal
    Allen is probably 3 mil also

    That leaves at least 14 mil in capspace?

    Thats not to bad
     
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    http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/2/

    Here's what its looking like...sorry I couldn't get it by its self I just use the trade checker to see salalaries.

    All I have to say about the draft and this discussion is less than 1% chance.

    Anyone have any thoughts as to the Bulls might take if we land in the realistic zone of 10? I just hope who ever he is he's tall....Hibbert, Yi, whoever.
     
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    Yeah, it's a longshot that Chicago gets such a high pick. I mean, not everyone can be the Magic. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bulls=Amazing Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">All I have to say about the draft and this discussion is less than 1% chance.</div>

    Thanks for pointing out what was located in the very first post and that everyone already knows about. The point is that we should look at this draft from any position, be it pick 1 or pick 30 in the first round. Since New York are on the ropes right now, we may have a Lottery pick. No matter the odds we should look at all possibilities.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You need to look at things from all angles</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm looking at things from all angles</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">No matter the odds we should look at all possibilities</div>

    Don't talk to me about repitition. I wasn't pointing anything out. I do read the posts. I was thinking about writing about the possibilities of getting a lottery pick and then decided 'why should I?'

    It would just be more sensible to talk about realities rather than just random luck. But whatever I'm done on the subject.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bulls=Amazing Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Don't talk to me about repitition. I wasn't pointing anything out. I do read the posts. I was thinking about writing about the possibilities of getting a lottery pick and then decided 'why should I?'

    It would just be more sensible to talk about realities rather than just random luck. But whatever I'm done on the subject.</div>


    In all acutality the Draft is luck. Its a rare thing when the lowest seed actually gets number1 pick. and there have been many teams that get number1 whom the odds were against. Its a gamble thats why its a "lottery".
    Just like people who win millions of dollars in the lotto they are mainly casual players. why the everyday players rarly hit it big. its dumb luck. and as far as we know it the Knicks could tank every game from here on out giving us a better chance at a top pick. So the window for discussion is always open until that second til the last name is called when the ball tumble.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bulls=Amazing Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Don't talk to me about repitition. I wasn't pointing anything out. I do read the posts. I was thinking about writing about the possibilities of getting a lottery pick and then decided 'why should I?'

    It would just be more sensible to talk about realities rather than just random luck. But whatever I'm done on the subject.</div>

    Talking? [​IMG]

    The possibilities on getting a Lottery pick just depends on the Knicks' Playoff hopes, plain and simple. If they don't make the Playoffs then we can grab anything from 1 to 14. The Knicks' position in the standings will determine our odds as I'm sure you and everybody else knows.

    Anything can be a reality and as a former professional I'm looking at it that way because it is a sensible way. Strange things have happened in the Draft. In the Lottery it is all about luck, even for the teams with better odds. I highly doubt we'll grab a top 10 pick in the draft, but if we do happen to get lucky for that then we've already discussed who would be the best possible option with a higher pick.

    Feel free to post what you originally wanted.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bulls=Amazing Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">

    All I have to say about the draft and this discussion is less than 1% chance.
    </div>

    That's the first think I thought when I entered this thread as well, the chances of us landing the first pick are so slim, that its not really even worth talking about (its nice to dream though). Realistically, I'm looking for us to hopefully get into the top ten picks, and guarantee ourselves a chance of selecting one of the big named 'big men' in the draft. Hypothetically speaking, if both Durant and Oden enter the draft and we have say the seventh pick we will be able to take one of: Wright, Jinalian, Noah, Hibbert, or Horford...
     
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    I think Noah may drop as far as seventh, but I can't see him dropping to tenth as so many people have speculated. I can understand that he isn't as great as people once believed, but I don't understand a lot of the hate coming in lately.
     
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    The Knicks are 2.5 behind Orlando, so playoffs are still a possibility, but it really depends on how well they deal with the injuries to Lee, Q, and Jamal. I would say realistically the Bulls can pick from 8-16. I don't remember any team in that range ever getting a #1 pick or a top 3 pick, but if you are trying to "cover all angles" be my guest. I just think it would be more worthwhile to talk about some of the players likely to land 8-16.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think Noah may drop as far as seventh, but I can't see him dropping to tenth as so many people have speculated. I can understand that he isn't as great as people once believed, but I don't understand a lot of the hate coming in lately.</div>

    I have no love for Noah's game, I felt this way for two years now, I want my team to stay as far away from him as possible. Although, he is a great energy guy, and is going to be solid in the NBA. However, the ceiling for him is not too high, I'd say he is bumping his head on it right now. He is a guy who goes all out when he is on the court, and playing like that in college with his size/skill set he was able to be successful. In the NBA he will be a role player (at most) and nothing more IMO.
     

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