<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Blews his chance? What chance? He's been healthy for awhile now. JVG made a choice to keep him inactive for a significant period of time before throwing him to the wolves on the court. The margin of error was CLEARLY smaller for Bonzi than any other player on the team. Skip throws the ball away and gets rewarded with more playin time, Bonzi throws the ball away and gets yanked out the game. Luther jacks up 3's at will, Bonzi misses a defensive assignment and doesn't play the next game. Bonzi never had a chance on this team because JVG was never gonna give him leeway for mistakes. It was alwayz "commit a turnover, ur out". I don't agree with that, and niether should any of you I think some of you guys (and the media) were literally WAITING for Bonzi to screw up so you could blame this all on him. Bonzi tried to reason with JVG, but he came to the conclusion that even at his best he won't see much action on a JVG ran team. Correction. Bonzi's value reduces in JVG's system. JVG's offense is a jumpshooting offense with Tmac doing 95% of all the playmaking. It's gonna eventually wear Tmac down, and Bonzi will be sorely missed. I'm sure you'll point to something different. That's what this is all about right here. It's about Bonzi's "past". JVG loves this right here. He was never gonna give Bonzi the benefit of the doubt, even when on the team. To Bonzi's credit, he did try to approach JVG multiple times this season.</div> Rock, I bet you really believe everything comes handed to you in a silver platter. Whatever happened to earning your playing time? Bonzi did this to himself. He has attitude problems. First of all, JVG is the boss. You are saying that your boss should conform to your needs and wants? What a feaking joke. Let me ask you this, is this how Juwan would have acted? Juwan is a classic example of someone who earned his right to play. If bonzi's attitude was better, he would have gotten more playing time. Let me turn this around on you and use a player you hate as an example. If Chuck Hayes acted this way, would you let him play at all? Well nm, bad example, you probably would have cut Hayes no matter what his production or attitude was. It was never about Bonzi's past. I love how you turned your head to the obvious. Lets pretend the past never happened! 1. He came into the season overweight and bitter due to his contract situation. 2. Made stupid comments to the media saying "I didnt come here to run a marathon. 3. Poor attitude earned him more time in the doghouse. 4. When he finally got the chance to earn more pt, he pulls this stunt off. Can you imagine any other NBA role players doing something as stupid as this? Bonzi isnt a superstar. Everything could have been avoided if Bonzi actually worked for it and had a good attitude. This is JVG ship to run, and if Bonzi doesn't want to play a role, he only has himself to blame. It's like me running and telling my boss that I work when I feel like it, and should get more important role in the company despite the fact that I don't work very hard (no matter the talent). You think that if I get fired, it would be partially the boss's fault for not realizing my talent? Let me guess. You were one of the few who defended Eddie Griffin too.
Oh yea. something about this really pisses me off. Not only does he not tell JVG in person or through the phone, HE SENDS A FREAKING TEXT MESSAGE TO KEITH JONES 2 HOURS BEFORE THE GAME.
Wow! so basically JVG handled everything perfectly and get's no blame for anything..........man if he's so perfect I wonder why he's never won a championship. Seriously Bonzi can't be the only one to get the blame, I mean think about this, we got 5 games left and he still doesn't even know his rotation! Jeff is no saint and in no way a perfect coach.
<div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wow! so basically JVG handled everything perfectly and get's no blame for anything..........man if he's so perfect I wonder why he's never won a championship. Seriously Bonzi can't be the only one to get the blame, I mean think about this, we got 5 games left and he still doesn't even know his rotation! Jeff is no saint and in no way a perfect coach.</div> No way are we saying he's perfect, but Bonzi brought this upon himself. I don't see Snyder acting that way either.
Yea, if we follow that logic then every NBA player who is a healthy scratch would be MIA right now. Bonzi's a headcase. He's been one in the past and he did absolutely nothing this season to prove that he isn't one. What happened was that he badly miscalculated in free agency and was forced to sign a crappy deal with a team he didn't really want to go to. There's no doubt in my mind that he's had his mind focused on the upcoming offseason all year long and its finally caught up with him.
<div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wow! so basically JVG handled everything perfectly and get's no blame for anything..........man if he's so perfect I wonder why he's never won a championship. Seriously Bonzi can't be the only one to get the blame, I mean think about this, we got 5 games left and he still doesn't even know his rotation! Jeff is no saint and in no way a perfect coach.</div> Our core rotation, 1-8, has been set for a while. Look at it this way. We're 36-14 in the games Bonzi hasn't played. We're 13-15 in the games he has played. When Bonzi has gotten his opportunities, by and large he's played horribly. He's got an 8.9 PER, which would put him right near the bottom of the league in terms of per-minute production. You think JVG should be blamed for not breaking up a rotation that was playing very well in order to accomodate a player like that? Despite all his problems this season, JVG was going to play Bonzi in the remaining games to determine how he could/should be used in the playoffs. Bonzi is the one that cut it off when he was getting his opportunity to contribute. It's the same pattern all season. He gets some playing time, and then he leaves the team for personal reasons, or he gets injured, or he leaves because he feels he's "hurting the team's chemistry". The guy isn't reliable at all. I think you got your hopes up way too high when we signed him, and now you're angry and dissappointed that it didn't work out.
Anybody heard the new Devin the Dude Album, gots one with Bun B Lil girl gone somewhere out there stranded Can't nobody find her and they don't understand it If anything 1 less worry in the rotation.
R4L, I'm curious, but what has Bonzi done that's so great? What has he done this year, or hell, any year, that makes you think he's some godlike figure that could propel you guys to the next level? In my eyes, he really hasn't done much. So what he had a good season last year. Who cares, it's one year. Bring up last years playoffs too while you're at it. It was a contract year and the fact of the matter is that people play better in their contract year than pretty much any other year. Just to help my argument here, lets just take a look at Erick Dampier. In the '03-'04 season (contract year), he went off for a career year, going for 12/12/2 that year. He hasn't touched that since then, with his best season being a 9/8.5 guy since then. And hell, before then, he did nothing. His best season was a 12/9 season. It's really just a fact that people always play a little more inspired their contract year soley so they can get a bit bigger of a paycheck next year. Back to Bonzi though. I'm really curious as to what makes you think he's so good. He's never been that special of a player. With the exception of three seasons, he's never been more than an 11/5 type of guy. The guy has also been consistently injury prone, never playing a full season in his career and playing less than 70 games six times. You also throw out the fact that he help you guys get to the line more. I must ask, what evidence points this out? The guy has never averaged more than 4.2 FTPG, and his career average is a whopping 2.9. Beyond that, when he gets there, he only shoots 70.4% for his career and 56.1% for the season, so why would you even want him there. He's really just been a one dimensional mid-range shooter a lot of his career. He doesn't go to the hoop as much as you think and doesn't get to the line as much as you'd like to think as well. He's got a decent post game and what not, but he doesn't utilize as much as you think either. He really is simply a mid range shooter and that's it. He can't stretch the defense cause his range doesn't extend much past about 18 ft. and he doesn't post up enough to be a threat in the paint. Did I mention about his crap-happy defense? His defense has never really been anything to write home about, as opposed to Snyder, who actually is rather solid on that side of the ball. Beyond this, you have the attitude issues. The guy has always been a headcase. The Blazers got rid of him for this reason and that's why JVG won't play him. Hell, even saying "no" to the Kings' offer showed his idiocy. He thought he was worth more than what he was. In general, he's really not worth the trouble. Why play him when you have Kirk Snyder there, a player who pretty much has the role of Bonzi while playing better defense. It doesn't make sense to me. Continue to defend Bonzi all you want but the fact of the matter is that it's really all his fault. Any time JVG has given him a chance, he either screwed up or played horribly. The guy has played uninspired all season and you could see that he just wanted to be done and onto the next season. He's done nothing to help himself all season. He hasn't been in shape, his attitude is crap, and to top it all off, you can throw in this recent incident. Bonzi has played his way out of the rotation completely and has done so all season, you just refuse to admit to it.
<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Our core rotation, 1-8, has been set for a while. Look at it this way. We're 36-14 in the games Bonzi hasn't played. We're 13-15 in the games he has played. When Bonzi has gotten his opportunities, by and large he's played horribly. He's got an 8.9 PER, which would put him right near the bottom of the league in terms of per-minute production. You think JVG should be blamed for not breaking up a rotation that was playing very well in order to accomodate a player like that?</div> Ur mistating ur stats. Bonzi came off a groin injury at the beginning of the season. Like any player comin off injury, it takes time to get ur legs back. For some reason you and others hold Bonzi to higher standards than you hold any other Rocket. He hasn't even played many games, and his role was significantly reduced. Snyder took Bonzi's place in the rotation, and even he now has a very reduced role. The fact is athletes don't fit well in JVG's system. There isn't any movement in the offense, which leaves players no other choice but to jack up 3's. I thought JVG would adjust, but we've been the same team for almost 3years now <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Despite all his problems this season, JVG was going to play Bonzi in the remaining games to determine how he could/should be used in the playoffs. Bonzi is the one that cut it off when he was getting his opportunity to contribute. It's the same pattern all season. He gets some playing time, and then he leaves the team for personal reasons, or he gets injured, or he leaves because he feels he's "hurting the team's chemistry". The guy isn't reliable at all. I think you got your hopes up way too high when we signed him, and now you're angry and dissappointed that it didn't work out.</div> You don't know that. JVG's has had it out for Bonzi since he came here. If he has a bad stretch in a game, he won't be used for the rest of the game. The margin of error is 10x slimmer for Bonzi than any other Rocket. Given those circumstances, I can understand his frustration. Even when the fans we're declaring for Bonzi to play, he was left inactive. One thing is for certain, JVG had a personal grudge against Bonzi
<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ur mistating ur stats. Bonzi came off a groin injury at the beginning of the season. Like any player comin off injury, it takes time to get ur legs back. For some reason you and others hold Bonzi to higher standards than you hold any other Rocket. He hasn't even played many games, and his role was significantly reduced. Snyder took Bonzi's place in the rotation, and even he now has a very reduced role. The fact is athletes don't fit well in JVG's system. There isn't any movement in the offense, which leaves players no other choice but to jack up 3's. I thought JVG would adjust, but we've been the same team for almost 3years now</div> Hello? He hasnt had his groin injury his WHOLE SEASON. That excuse might fit in the beginning of the year, but it hardly applies deep into the season when he is getting minutes. He hardly played (or worked out for that matter) in the beginning of the season, so your point is moot. <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> You don't know that. JVG's has had it out for Bonzi since he came here. If he has a bad stretch in a game, he won't be used for the rest of the game. The margin of error is 10x slimmer for Bonzi than any other Rocket. Given those circumstances, I can understand his frustration. Even when the fans we're declaring for Bonzi to play, he was left inactive. One thing is for certain, JVG had a personal grudge against Bonzi</div> Do you even think before you post? Stop and think why. He didn't work out over the summer. He came in overweight. He probably didn't even touch the basketball over the summer. His attitude just plain sucked. He wasnt in shape and expected minutes right off the bat. This had nothing to do with JVG having a personal grudge against him. If that were so, JVG wouldnt have even given Bonzi a chance in the middle of the season. Chronological events: Bonzi came in fat and unwilling to practice: - JVG benched him Bonzi continued to make stupid remarks on how he doesnt have to work out and didnt come to run a marathon.. - Still sitting on bench Bonzi grew a brain and realized that doing nothing wont give him pt. He reconciles with coach. - Ding ding ding, he gets more pt! He performs poorly in most of his games. Snyder gets healthy - Goes back to bench Fact is, JVG wants the best lineup for the playoffs. Bonzi was given a few chances to prove that he can make it. He showed that he was turnover proned (dont see how passing has anything to do with injuries) and his defense was atrocious. His free throw shooting is a dismal 56% (again unrelated to injury). Don't fling your stupid groin injury comment. Tmac came from a back injury. Yao broke his leg. Hayes hurt his knee. Snyder broke his hand. How long did it take them to get back into game form?
<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Our core rotation, 1-8, has been set for a while. and now you're angry and dissappointed that it didn't work out.</div> JVG himself has said he still tweaking the rotation countless times on SR610! Angry? Why would I be angry? Dissappointed yes, but I've been around the game enough to know that things don't always work out. But remember it takes two to tango and as much stupid crap that Bonzi pulled JVG continued to say he was doing great and handling the situation like a pro, so why all the kids games like having him on the inactive roster just to activate him two weeks before the playoffs? Playing him a few games then benching him for weeks? Simply put they BOTH did some childish things and are BOTH to blame.
<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ur mistating ur stats. Bonzi came off a groin injury at the beginning of the season. Like any player comin off injury, it takes time to get ur legs back. For some reason you and others hold Bonzi to higher standards than you hold any other Rocket.</div> I hold him to the same standard as any player. Even if you ignore his games in December when he was really terrible and focus on his better stretches in January and February, there were are clear problems. He wasn't an efficient scorer in either of those stretches (TS% is at 49%, very poor, but close to what we'd expect based on his previous seasons), and he was still turnover-prone. He did some other nice things (rebounds, steals), but his defense wasn't good at all. There's a reason we had so many team defensive breakdowns in those games he played (our W/L record was only 7-7). It's not a coincidence. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He hasn't even played many games, and his role was significantly reduced. Snyder took Bonzi's place in the rotation, and even he now has a very reduced role. The fact is athletes don't fit well in JVG's system. There isn't any movement in the offense, which leaves players no other choice but to jack up 3's. I thought JVG would adjust, but we've been the same team for almost 3years now</div> It should have been obvious that Bonzi would have a reduced role on this team, but you were blind to that (amongst many, many other things). <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You don't know that. JVG's has had it out for Bonzi since he came here. If he has a bad stretch in a game, he won't be used for the rest of the game. The margin of error is 10x slimmer for Bonzi than any other Rocket. Given those circumstances, I can understand his frustration. Even when the fans we're declaring for Bonzi to play, he was left inactive. One thing is for certain, JVG had a personal grudge against Bonzi</div> Oh, the coach is supposed to play players just because the fans ask for it? You're right, he must have a grudge. JVG said from the beginning he's not going to mess with a rotation that's playing well. The rotation was playing very well throughout March. That's why Bonzi never was added back in. Our play was slipping the last couple weeks, so JVG figured it was a good idea to get another look at Bonzi in the remaining games before the playoffs. If you follow the team at all, you should know these were the circumstances. Bonzi took himself out of the game in Sacramento (thankfully, he was killing us), and he decided not to even show up in Seattle. Bonzi averaged 21 mpg in the games he played. That's far more than any other player not currently in our regular rotation. Bonzi had more scoring attempts per minute than any player on the team not named Yao and McGrady. His usage rate (offensive activity, per minute) was actually greater this season than last season; the reason is production was so much less was because he was so much less efficient. These are the facts, which you continually ignore. Bonzi had his opportunities, and he squandered them by playing very poorly. No way am I going to blame the coach for electing not to break up a rotation that was very effective through most of the season just to accomodate a struggling, out of shape, and clearly distracted player like Bonzi. JVG said weeks ago that he had spoken to Bonzi about him playing a limited role (like what Snyder was doing), and Bonzi wasn't comfortable with that. Well, this pretty much proves it. Bonzi was getting his chance as the 8th/9th man in the rotation, but he didn't like it and preferred to quit on the team rather that contribute in that capacity. This is the player you want to defend. <div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> JVG himself has said he still tweaking the rotation countless times on SR610! Angry? Why would I be angry? Dissappointed yes, but I've been around the game enough to know that things don't always work out. But remember it takes two to tango and as much stupid crap that Bonzi pulled JVG continued to say he was doing great and handling the situation like a pro, so why all the kids games like having him on the inactive roster just to activate him two weeks before the playoffs? Playing him a few games then benching him for weeks? Simply put they BOTH did some childish things and are BOTH to blame.</div> How many times does this need to be explained. He was on the inactive roster because we were playing very well throughout March. He's not going to screw with a rotation that was working well, and he had already made it clear that he wouldn't play both Snyder and Bonzi. I explained this a while back. The decision wasn't personal; it was basketball related. We faltered the last few weeks, so he decided to get another look at him. Again, purely a basketball decision. If you want to fault JVG, fault his basketball decisions. But this has nothing to do with being childish or holding a grudge.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> April 11, 2007, 2:41AM Wells' season is over Rockets bench guard for duration, will assess fine for latest absence By JONATHAN FEIGEN Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle PORTLAND, Ore. — After months of insisting he wanted a chance to play more, Rockets guard Bonzi Wells chose not to. Now the choice has been taken out of his hands. A day after Wells skipped Monday's game in Seattle, the Rockets decided he will not play again this season, a person with knowledge of the team's decision-making said Tuesday. </div> Source: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4704480.html I never post...just watch... So will this end the Bonzi debates? Sweet Jebus I hope so. Edit: for link
I think Bonzi's ego has been hurt. Hes been wanting more pt this whole season. JVG gave him more at the end of the season and he realizes he has been playing horribly. I don't think its anything malicious or like that. The fact that he asked to be taken out of Sacramento shows that he is very disappointed with his own play. Even he knows he played poorly (unlike some people on this msg board).
Stop arguing already pleeease. I'd say its 80% Bonzi's fault and 20% JVG's. Or we could also say that is was just unfortunate circumstances since Bonzi was injured earlier in the season which blew the chance for him to gel with the team early on. Either way its doesn't really matter anymore since he's not going to play for the Rockets again. Goodluck to him in the offseason, hope he finds a team that wants him enough to accept all the bad juice and for him to thrive in.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The fact is athletes don't fit well in JVG's system.</div> an overweight Bonzi isn't what I'd call athletic...the guy barely made it over the rim when he tried to dunk the ball once this season...Snyder and Tmac are players who I'd consider "athletic" and they do fine under JVG. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Don't fling your stupid groin injury comment. Tmac came from a back injury. Yao broke his leg. Hayes hurt his knee. Snyder broke his hand. How long did it take them to get back into game form?</div> Word....injuries are no excuse to come to camp out of shape. You're a professional athlete and you have a responsibility to watch what you eat, stay in some kind of shape, practice, etc. so you won't be a fat slouch when you finally get healthy. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Bonzi's ego has been hurt. Hes been wanting more pt this whole season. JVG gave him more at the end of the season and he realizes he has been playing horribly. I don't think its anything malicious or like that. The fact that he asked to be taken out of Sacramento shows that he is very disappointed with his own play. Even he knows he played poorly (unlike some people on this msg board).</div> I think the fact of passing up all that money really hurts him on the inside, especially since he'll probably never see a deal like that again in his career.
<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I hold him to the same standard as any player. Even if you ignore his games in December when he was really terrible and focus on his better stretches in January and February, there were are clear problems. He wasn't an efficient scorer in either of those stretches (TS% is at 49%, very poor, but close to what we'd expect based on his previous seasons), and he was still turnover-prone. He did some other nice things (rebounds, steals), but his defense wasn't good at all. There's a reason we had so many team defensive breakdowns in those games he played (our W/L record was only 7-7). It's not a coincidence.</div> We recently had a terrible defensive stretch and Bonzi was inactive, was he responsible for that too? The problem is you hold Bonzi to different standards. You just got thru blaming a bad defensive stretch we had months ago on Bonzi. Was it really Bonzi's fault? If that's the case who's fault was it when we had our recent defense problems. Certainley not Bonzi <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It should have been obvious that Bonzi would have a reduced role on this team, but you were blind to that (amongst many, many other things). </div> Obvious? Why? Maybe a reduced role in JVG's system. This isn't the first time a free agent has came here thinkin they'd play a huge role and been "reduced" to just a bench warmer. Bonzi's a athlete, and athletes don't fit on a JVG team. That's why we're the slowest team in the league, and JVG has no problem with that. <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Oh, the coach is supposed to play players just because the fans ask for it? You're right, he must have a grudge. JVG said from the beginning he's not going to mess with a rotation that's playing well. The rotation was playing very well throughout March. That's why Bonzi never was added back in. Our play was slipping the last couple weeks, so JVG figured it was a good idea to get another look at Bonzi in the remaining games before the playoffs. If you follow the team at all, you should know these were the circumstances. Bonzi took himself out of the game in Sacramento (thankfully, he was killing us), and he decided not to even show up in Seattle.</div> Another cop out. If YOU know basketball, you'd know that a player who's activated won't "mess with a rotation" unless he's in the "rotation". This is where ur theory hits a roadblock. Why wasn't Bonzi atleast activated when he was healthy? What message does that send a player who's eager to play(and healthy), that he can't even join the team? It's called a "grudge". <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Bonzi averaged 21 mpg in the games he played. That's far more than any other player not currently in our regular rotation. Bonzi had more scoring attempts per minute than any player on the team not named Yao and McGrady. His usage rate (offensive activity, per minute) was actually greater this season than last season; the reason is production was so much less was because he was so much less efficient. These are the facts, which you continually ignore. Bonzi had his opportunities, and he squandered them by playing very poorly. No way am I going to blame the coach for electing not to break up a rotation that was very effective through most of the season just to accomodate a struggling, out of shape, and clearly distracted player like Bonzi.</div> He didn't squander anything. He wasn't given a chance to prove himself. Coming off an injury, ur not gonna play ur best basketball. Especially on a new team & in a new system w/ new players. JVG wasn't willing to give Bonzi time to learn the system even tho he wasn't with the team during training camp. It's obvious he felt we didn't need Bonzi since we signed him. <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">How many times does this need to be explained. He was on the inactive roster because we were playing very well throughout March. He's not going to screw with a rotation that was working well, and he had already made it clear that he wouldn't play both Snyder and Bonzi. I explained this a while back. The decision wasn't personal; it was basketball related. We faltered the last few weeks, so he decided to get another look at him. Again, purely a basketball decision. If you want to fault JVG, fault his basketball decisions. But this has nothing to do with being childish or holding a grudge.</div> So Bonzi was left inactive because JVG didn't want mess up the rotation? That alone doesn't make sense A reasonable coach would've activated Bonzi when he was healthy, and at the least let him travel with team and observe plays in huddles. You know this, but you've chose to make excuses. <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">an overweight Bonzi isn't what I'd call athletic...the guy barely made it over the rim when he tried to dunk the ball once this season...Snyder and Tmac are players who I'd consider "athletic" and they do fine under JVG.</div> An overweight Bonzi, lazy Stro, uneffective Jim Jackson & old Derek Anderson. Each year it's another excuse. Most of which are pretty good 6th men <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Word....injuries are no excuse to come to camp out of shape. You're a professional athlete and you have a responsibility to watch what you eat, stay in some kind of shape, practice, etc. so you won't be a fat slouch when you finally get healthy.</div> Again, he was comin off a groin injury which permits you to run. But the fact that you guys consistently point to what happened at the beginning of season as reason why JVG decided to keep him inactive at the end of the season, let's me know ur "reaching" for excuses. A great coach doesn't hold grudges, but JVG's does
<div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> JVG himself has said he still tweaking the rotation countless times on SR610! Angry? Why would I be angry? Dissappointed yes, but I've been around the game enough to know that things don't always work out. But remember it takes two to tango and as much stupid crap that Bonzi pulled JVG continued to say he was doing great and handling the situation like a pro, so why all the kids games like having him on the inactive roster just to activate him two weeks before the playoffs? Playing him a few games then benching him for weeks? Simply put they BOTH did some childish things and are BOTH to blame.</div> Obcourse. There are plenty of holes in JVG's thinking. These guys have been waiting for Bonzi to fail since he got here. First Juwan, now it's Bonzi Wells. Bonzi was isolated from the team most of the year. When he's been healthy, he's not even allowed to travel with the team. If his attitude was so bad, why would JVG say he's handled the situation well? That's something they won't answer. I guess they'd rather bring up his old Portland days
R4L, you never give up. I'll give you a brief post, but look at my previous post up there for more. I'm just wonder, what has Bonzi done that's so great? He's been largely ineffective all year, even when given the chance. The things you praise him for are hardly reasons to praise him. You claim he's got a great post game. It may be true, but much like Q-Rich, he doesn't use it. He'd rather stand on the perimeter and jack up jumpers. And even with that, his range is limited. He's never been a good three point shooter and his midrange game is decent at best. You claim he's good at getting to the foul line, and that's hardly true. He averages less than 3 attempts per game for his career and his FT% is right around 70%, so even when he does get to the line, he's not very good there. As for defense, he's hardly good at that as well. He's never been a great defender and he never will be. And lastly, Bonzi is hardly an athletic player. He doesn't get great elevation anymore (due to the fact he's overweight and still largely out of shape), his stamina isn't that great nor has it ever been, etc. I'm just wondering when you'll finally admit you're wrong and stop beating a dead horse with all your lame excuses.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">We recently had a terrible defensive stretch and Bonzi was inactive, was he responsible for that too? The problem is you hold Bonzi to different standards. You just got thru blaming a bad defensive stretch we had months ago on Bonzi. Was it really Bonzi's fault? If that's the case who's fault was it when we had our recent defense problems. Certainley not Bonzi.</div> Never said bad defense is only attributable to one player. Certainly Kirk Snyder and Luther Head have their share of breakdowns on defense. It's about putting a group out there that will minimize mistakes and improve your overall chances of winning. We were playing well, for the most part, throughout March, so Bonzi wasn't added to the rotation. After more recent slipups, Bonzi was given a chance to get himself back in, but he quit because he wasn't happy with his play/role. This is the type of player you wanted on the team, remember? Selfish, mentally unstable. Our team has too many good guys, we need more of those types of players, right? Well, this is the result. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Another cop out. If YOU know basketball, you'd know that a player who's activated won't "mess with a rotation" unless he's in the "rotation". This is where ur theory hits a roadblock. Why wasn't Bonzi atleast activated when he was healthy? What message does that send a player who's eager to play(and healthy), that he can't even join the team? It's called a "grudge". </div> You're assuming that Bonzi was forced to stay away from the team or he was forced to be deactivated. What makes you think he wasn't given the choice whether to be around the team, and decided on his own not to? He proved at the end that he wasn't eager to be around just to give the team company. If he wasn't contributing significantly on the court, I don't think Bonzi wanted anything to do with the Rockets, and that's why he quit. Apparently you have a different theory on how things went down. Swell, nothing more to discuss.
