<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nah man. Got a link? That sounds despicable.</div> No, I seen it live when I was flipping channels. He just started to chuckle over a question about security I believe it was. What an asshole.
<div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I cannot understand why gun laws are not more strict. You KNOW there are a bunch of CRAZY people in this world, and yet it is SO EASY for them to get their hands on guns. And all they have to do is go to a crowded area and start shooting. </div> How can you stop someone who is crazy enough to kill a large number of people along with themselves? The only thing that can stop this type of stuff from happening is people doing whats right or whats wrong. You can't distinguish between who is crazy when somebody is buying a gun to shoot up a big amount of people, or if someone is buying a gun for self defense because they live in an area of crime.
<div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You can't distinguish between who is crazy when somebody is buying a gun to shoot up a big amount of people, or if someone is buying a gun for self defense because they live in an area of crime.</div> Which is why they should outlaw owning a gun all together. But I know thats not going to happen, because "It's our right" It's sad this had to happen, but I'm not surprised it did, and I'm sure it will happen again, and continue to happen until some proper action is taken to prevent such incidents. Although Bush's answer of fixing the problem will probally be putting a serviceman with an M16 in every class room... My condolences go out to those who lost Family / Friends.
<div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Which is why they should outlaw owning a gun all together.</div> It doesn't work that way because there are people who have legitamate reasons to own a gun. Especially with the way so many are wreckless these days. Stuff like this, and other violence around the world shows that people just don't give a F.
<div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It doesn't work that way because there are people who have legitamate reasons to own a gun.</div> Such as?
Very tragic incident. Students working on getting engineering degrees (mostly) lose there lives over some psycho who couldn't handle life.
<div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Such as?</div> Uh...to protect yourself. You are aware that the world is a scary place, right? Sometimes action by force needs to be taken.
Gun laws won't change anything, it'll never pass. Black Markets will just get stronger if guns are outlawed, people will be able to get them just as easy...and felons will be able to get them easier. I never understood gun laws, it won't change a damn thing.
<div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Such as?</div> Protection Hunting Show (yes, some people are collectors) Fun (shooting range, etc)
Like other people said, I was also wondering why they wouldn't evacuate if someone was shot and the gunmen fled, especially because they didn't catch him, why the hell would they still keep students in the buildings. My condolences to the families of the people that pasted away.
I don't want to turn this into a gun control debate, but that's a simplistic argument. There needs to be better registration, enforcement of the laws, and more emphasis on controlling the illegal gun trade. It's not the only reason for this shooting, but it tends to be the constant with all these school shootings.
No doubt. Just banning something that's become a problem is usually unrealistic and too simplistic (eg: the war on drugs).
I was in shock when I heard about this, I feel sorry for all the families that took a blow today and send out my best wishes for them. After I was thinking about this, I was wondering if the school would refund families all the tuition that they've paid while there or at least some since it was on campus.
<div class="quote_poster">Sasha Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Uh...to protect yourself. You are aware that the world is a scary place, right? Sometimes action by force needs to be taken.</div> Protecting yourself from what? You dont live in Iraq or West Africa, you have no immediate threat to be fearful of.
NTC, I sometimes agree with you, but c'mon man, are you serious? No immediate threat? Do you think these young adults at VT thought they were safe? I sure as hell would assume they did. There's always going to be a threat, whether it's immediate or not. Having the right to protect yourself and save your life is very valuable. For some idiots who want to completely ban guns, they need to recognize that. (I'm not calling you an idiot)
when you stop and really think how the families of the people killed feel right now, it is something so strong that i find myself really overwhelmed with sadness that something this horrible can happen. these people were so young and with their whole lives ahead of them. i hope the victims families find love and content in the rest of their lives after such a tragic and terrible loss. this just proves again how unnessecary guns and weopons are, and shows the world what can happen in a country out of control and with such outragess laws (this isnt a knock on american people, only to the system america lives under, and im sorry if it offends some of you).
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">NTC, I sometimes agree with you, but c'mon man, are you serious? No immediate threat? Do you think these young adults at VT thought they were safe? I sure as hell would assume they did. There's always going to be a threat, whether it's immediate or not. Having the right to protect yourself and save your life is very valuable. For some idiots who want to completely ban guns, they need to recognize that. (I'm not calling you an idiot)</div> We both live in first world countries, we're not living in warzones, what are you so fearful of that makes you feel as though you need to have a gun to protect yourself? The only person I know who owns a gun, is my Grandfather, but he is a hunter. My family doesnt own a gun, and I'm not fearful of anything happening because I dont own one either. Do I know the world is an ugly place? Of course, but that doesnt give me enough reason to warrant owning a firearm. My family is safe, in our home we are safe, and just because we dont own a firearm doesnt mean we arent protected. There are other ways to protect yourself and your family without owning a gun. Owning a gun doesnt necessarily mean you're safe anyway! Let me say one thing right now, I'm not against guns, and I understand that the majority of Americans are responsible registered firearm owners, however, it is incidents such as this one, the columbine massacre, the Amish school shooting etc. etc. etc. that I do have a problem with. Thats what I care about. I want to see these kind of things stop, and I know that you do too, but I'm getting this impression you would rather keep your guns than give them up to stop incidents such as this from happening. I understand it takes a hell of alot more than simply owning a gun to make some one a killer, but as they are being so freely distributed amongst your communities, the risks are increasing for possible incidents. Guns seem to be readily available in America. I'm not even suggesting outlawing guns completley, but why not at least heavily bolster the registration process, I dont know what the current process is like now, but its obviously not very in depth. Like I said, I'm concerned about the lives of those who have been lost in incidents such as the one that took place today, no one should have to lose their life in such a tragedy. I want this type of thing to stop (or at least dramatically decline). If gun control works in other countries, why wouldnt it work for America? You're all in fear of yourselves. Heres a fun fact for you too by the way, Australia actually holds the record (not that this is anything to be proud of, but I didnt know this until today) for the single largest gun related massacre. The Port Arthur Massacre back in 1996 (the year I moved to Australia) is the largest, with 35 people killed, and 37 wounded.
NTC is right. The only reason you might need a gun is because others have guns. Reduce the people's access to guns and you reduce your own need for a gun. A crazy person without a gun is a lot less dangerous than a crazy person with a gun. There are a lot of crazy, not to mention drunk lol, people in other countries, but this kind of thing never happens, because in the heat of the moment, they can't access a gun to carry through on whatever emotion they're feeling at the time. So if you're really MAD at someone, instead of shooting the person, you might say punch them in the face. Incidents like this are going to happen in America naturally because of the availability of guns and there's not much people can do to stop it. So in other words, America, you shouldn't be shocked, you shouldn't say "how can this happen?", because its obvious how it happens, it is a natural result of your domestic policy on guns.
