The Bulls won the Eddy Curry trade for a number of reasons. First and for most, they where able to get rid of Eddy Curry who was going to demand an excess of 60 million dollars on the free agent market, while receiving two unprotected picks, both of which turned out to be lottery picks. So they not only saved money, but also are now in position to potential draft one of the many touted big men in this years draft. Including the two big prizes at the end of the rain bow Greg Oden and Kevin Durant. Meanwhile, since the Eddy Curry deal the Knicks have not made the playoffs either year. Curry has continued to be a liability to his team on the defensive end of the court. Meanwhile, with the first of the two lottery picks the Bulls selected Tyrus Thomas. Despite not putting up impressive numbers his rookie season, mostly due to lack of playing time, Tyrus has already proven to be a better defensive player than Eddy Curry, and has shown flashes of the potential that he has to become a future star in the league. At a mere 20 years old Tyrus earned his spot in the Scott Skiles rotation during the second part of his rookie season, and has become a fan favorite for his incredible athletic plays, and presence defensively. So who really won the trade?
<div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">As far as the Tyrus >>> Curry thing: Tyrus is already a superior player to Curry on the defensive end, and considering he just turned 20, he has all the potential in the world to be a better offensive player than Curry. Then let's not forget we still have a top six pick coming out of the deal in this years draft as well, Isiah Thomas was pretty much ripped.</div> It's highly unlikely Thomas will be better than Curry offensively unless he miraculously grows an extra 3 inches and gains around 80 pounds of muscle. The reason why Curry is so good on offense is because he's so massive. You’re talking about an agile near 7-footer who weighs 285. Those are rare this day and age. Looking aside from the 20 PPG he averages, you also have to acknowledge the fact he draws constant double and triple teams by simply touching the ball. I can confidently say that Tyrus Thomas will never demand that type of respect from the opposition. He’s undersized at only 6’8”. Granted, he has great athleticism, but other than decent timing on his blocks, his skills are virtually non-existent. He can’t score without being spoon-fed by someone on his team. Curry is a young 20-point big man who is 5th in the league in free throw attempts and #1 in points in the paint. Even if Thomas does become a good offensive player, he won’t be able to match Curry’s production. Defensively, Curry can improve. His poor defense is mostly due to a lack of IQ on the defensive end which I’m sure can improve, just like his offense. How was Isiah ripped if he has a skilled NBA player who has proven he can score 20 PPG on a nightly basis? You’re just banking on Tyrus (and whoever the Bulls pick) potential. By the way, the Bulls pick 9TH not 6th.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">How was Isiah ripped if he has a skilled NBA player who has proven he can score 20 PPG on a nightly basis? You’re just banking on Tyrus (and whoever the Bulls pick) potential.</div> Like I stated before Tyrus already is superior to Curry defensively. Curry's defensive presnce is equal to that of the guy sitting court side. Isiah dropped the ball on the trade by not protecting the picks. He gave up a shot at two players who are projected to be the future of the league (Durant and Oden) as well as an athletic monster like Tyrus who can very well be a future star, for a center who averages 18 points a game and hasn't helped your team to one winning season since the trade.
I would probably choose Tyrus Thomas over Eddy Curry, mainly because of the difference in age and the contracts. You're right, Curry is one of the few centers who can average 20 ppg playing in the paint. The only problem is he's giving just as much, if not more, on the other end of the floor. And on top of that, he's still a terrible rebounder and turns the ball over to much. Now there's no doubt he's a better player than Tyrus is right now. But, if I was an NBA GM, I couldn't justify giving him over $8 mill a year (and its increasing a lot).
Simply, the Bulls have definitely got the upper hand in that trade. Tyrus has much more potential for one. Second, the Knicks are still suffering from the trade despite Curry's play for the organization with or without the injuries. I'm very happy we don't have Eddy Curry anymore because he would have demanded a large contract in the future, which can go to more talented players that we already have.
Compare Currys impact on the NBA his sophomore year to Ty's rookie year and there is no comparison. No one cared about curry. while opposing teams actually have to prepare for Ty and what he can do in on the court.
That's not true, there were plenty of teams that still wanted Eddy Curry throughout his entire campaign as a Bull. Right now however, he is playing at a good rate, but nowhere near what he was projected to be.
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I would probably choose Tyrus Thomas over Eddy Curry, mainly because of the difference in age and the contracts. You're right, Curry is one of the few centers who can average 20 ppg playing in the paint. The only problem is he's giving just as much, if not more, on the other end of the floor. And on top of that, he's still a terrible rebounder and turns the ball over to much. Now there's no doubt he's a better player than Tyrus is right now. But, if I was an NBA GM, I couldn't justify giving him over $8 mill a year (and its increasing a lot).</div> I agree. eddy curry is a type of guy the knicks need, "a big guy", but those 2 draft picks tyrus Thomas and whoever the bulls get this year would have been a help for the knicks rotation, like at the end of this year how so many knicks players got injured, tyrus would have backup for those injured players. Isiah made some good trades when he 1st came to the knicks but since then he had made some bad deals, along with eddy curry for the 2 draft picks.
<div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Compare Currys impact on the NBA his sophomore year to Ty's rookie year and there is no comparison. No one cared about curry. while opposing teams actually have to prepare for Ty and what he can do in on the court.</div> If you compare their rookie seasons, Tyrus is actually having a better season in less minutes per game. Here are his numbers compared to Curry their rookie year. Eddy Curry Tyrus Thomas
<div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's not true, there were plenty of teams that still wanted Eddy Curry throughout his entire campaign as a Bull. Right now however, he is playing at a good rate, but nowhere near what he was projected to be.</div> what exactly did I say that wasnt true? Tyrus has a bigger impact on the game than whe eddie was his age. Hes a game changer.
I still think the Knicks can be a contending organization, but they need to get rid of a few players and bring in others to settle around Curry. Lee for instance is a great player, who deserves more respect. Anyway, this isn't the Knicks forum. Christ. * Fixed an error <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">what exactly did I say that wasnt true? Tyrus has a bigger impact on the game than whe eddie was his age. Hes a game changer.</div> You wrote that nobody cared about Curry. I should've highlighted the portion I meant.
I don't think the Bulls got the better end of this deal. Tyrus Thomas is only a slightly better version of Stromile Swift whereas Eddy Curry would've been a great fit with the current Bulls team. You could've moved Big Ben to PF and played Curry at Center. With the rest of the guys playing tough defense, Curry would not be as much as a defensive liability and would've provided much needed low post scoring. The current Bulls team would be much better with Curry than Tyrus Thomas.
<div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If you compare their rookie seasons, Tyrus is actually having a better season in less minutes per game. Here are his numbers compared to Curry their rookie year. Eddy Curry Tyrus Thomas </div> Thomas averaged less minutes than Curry did too. I think Thomas is going to be somthing special, I think he'll eventually become much like Josh Smith.
<div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think the Bulls got the better end of this deal. Tyrus Thomas is only a slightly better version of Stromile Swift whereas Eddy Curry would've been a great fit with the current Bulls team. You could've moved Big Ben to PF and played Curry at Center. With the rest of the guys playing tough defense, Curry would not be as much as a defensive liability and would've provided much needed low post scoring. The current Bulls team would be much better with Curry than Tyrus Thomas.</div> We would never have gotten Ben Wallace in the first place if it wasn't for trading Curry and Chandler. There is no way we could have had Curry getting 60 million, Hinrich getting over 40 million, and still had enough money to sign Wallace to 60 million and resign Gordon and Deng. In essence trading Curry was a domino move that led to the signing of Wallace, which was one of the big reasons we were able to hang with the Heat yesterday. We do need an inside scorer, but I would not sacrifice team defense for a couple extra points.
<div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I still think the Knicks can be a contending organization, but they need to get rid of a few players and bring in others to settle around Curry. Lee for instance is a great player, who deserves more respect. Anyway, this isn't the Knicks forum. Christ. * Fixed an error You wrote that nobody cared about Curry. I should've highlighted the portion I meant.</div> Like I said Curry had absolutly no impact on the game back then. Tyrus changes so many shots. And has so many game changing plays its amazing. I hate when people ague against a short sentence instead of argueing against my whole statement. Thats taking what I say out of context.
<div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Like I said Curry had absolutly no impact on the game back then. Tyrus changes so many shots. And has so many game changing plays its amazing.</div> Although, that may be true I think what M21 is trying to say is that Curry still had value because he was a young big man who came out of high school. There for other teams did care about Curry.
<div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think the Bulls got the better end of this deal. Tyrus Thomas is only a slightly better version of Stromile Swift whereas Eddy Curry would've been a great fit with the current Bulls team. You could've moved Big Ben to PF and played Curry at Center. With the rest of the guys playing tough defense, Curry would not be as much as a defensive liability and would've provided much needed low post scoring. The current Bulls team would be much better with Curry than Tyrus Thomas.</div> How can you write that the Knicks got the better end of the deal when we ripped them of their youth for a few years? Then you write that he's a slightly better version of Swift. Why are you comparing them now when Curry has had more experience in this league? That doesn't even make any sense from a professional stand point. Thomas has made more of an impact in his first year then Curry could've hoped for. Do you even watch any of the Bulls games? Ben and Curry wouldn't happen either. Do you have any idea how much money Curry is going to cost down the road? We wouldn't have the ability to re-sign Deng, Gordon and Nocioni who are all more valuable to this organization. People often avoid the money situation. The Bulls made a great decision ridding of Curry and Chandler as a matter of fact. Two high rollers that aren't worth their price. Both players are better off where they are now and the Bulls are better off without them. That is the point of a trade.
<div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Like I said Curry had absolutly no impact on the game back then. Tyrus changes so many shots. And has so many game changing plays its amazing. I hate when people ague against a short sentence instead of argueing against my whole statement. Thats taking what I say out of context.</div> Why are you even going on about this when it wasn't even my response to you? There wasn't even an argument to begin with, but you didn't read correctly, bud. Here, I will write it out for you very clearly and in full detail so that you can understand what you missed the point of. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">That's not true, there were plenty of teams that still wanted Eddy Curry throughout his entire campaign as a Bull. Right now however, he is playing at a good rate, but nowhere near what he was projected to be.</div> I only wrote that Curry was indeed very valuable during his entire tenure as a Bull as opposed to what you originally wrote that "no one cared for Curry." Hence why I wrote in response "that's not true." The portion in which I continued with "Right now, however" was basically in agreement with you on your comparison. Really you're just making up arguments for yourself, bro.
There's no way the Bulls would've been able to sign Ben Wallace. They would have a hard enough time with Ben Gordon and Luol Deng.
