http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2528179 Players under contract who don't report can now be fined up to $14,000 a day!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2528179 Players under contract who don't report can now be fined up to $14,000 a day!</div> that sounds really good for the league
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>yeah take that Deion Branch</div> Good luck keeping him if you fine him 14 a day
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MKIV_Supra)</div><div class='quotemain'>I wonder where the money is gonna to.</div> It should go to the coaches to color or plug the gray and loose hair all these prima donna athletes cause them. If you want to see owers/coaches/agents working harder to get their guys in camp on time, the money could be allotted to division rivals and be usuable over and above the salary cap. Free ride cap money. Woo-Hoo! Lamar Hunt will pony up the bucks just to stick it to Al Davis and Mike Shanahan.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kcgsc)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MKIV_Supra)</div><div class='quotemain'>I wonder where the money is gonna to.</div> It should go to the coaches to color or plug the gray and loose hair all these prima donna athletes cause them.</div> So, right now its known as the Bill Parcells 401(K). ROFL.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kcgsc)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MKIV_Supra)</div><div class='quotemain'>I wonder where the money is gonna to.</div> It should go to the coaches to color or plug the gray and loose hair all these prima donna athletes cause them.</div> So, right now its known as the Bill Parcells 401(K). ROFL.</div> For some reason, it screams out Rogaine or Just for Men.
So, what is the penalty for teams who don't honor their side of a contract by cutting players who are still under contract? Why is it that football fans applaud when it's made more difficult for athletes to make money in the short time they have to play, but say nothing when owners screw them by dumping them the second their value drops? I'm not a fan of holdouts, but I understand why some players feel they need to make a stand while they have some leverage. I would just like to know why "football fans" bother to watch the game when you hate every dime that the players are making? How can the same people have a favorite football team? You do realize that the team and the owner make more money than any individual player does, right?
The NFL is at it's pinacle. If NFL players feel they're being shafted they have the right to leave. When the quality of play goes down then you may see a change. If the players had control we'd be looking at the NBA right now. I find the $ NBA & MLB players are making far more outrageous especially in comparison to the amount of physical punishment the NFL players take. In the end their union agreed to this deal so they can't cry foul now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>So, what is the penalty for teams who don't honor their side of a contract by cutting players who are still under contract? Why is it that football fans applaud when it's made more difficult for athletes to make money in the short time they have to play, but say nothing when owners screw them by dumping them the second their value drops? I'm not a fan of holdouts, but I understand why some players feel they need to make a stand while they have some leverage. I would just like to know why "football fans" bother to watch the game when you hate every dime that the players are making? How can the same people have a favorite football team? You do realize that the team and the owner make more money than any individual player does, right?</div> I dont have a problem with that. It is just that i saw the new CBA as changing the balance to the players, and its nice to see owners have some weapons too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>So, what is the penalty for teams who don't honor their side of a contract by cutting players who are still under contract? Why is it that football fans applaud when it's made more difficult for athletes to make money in the short time they have to play, but say nothing when owners screw them by dumping them the second their value drops? I'm not a fan of holdouts, but I understand why some players feel they need to make a stand while they have some leverage. I would just like to know why "football fans" bother to watch the game when you hate every dime that the players are making? How can the same people have a favorite football team? You do realize that the team and the owner make more money than any individual player does, right?</div> I was thinking along the same lines, but I don't think that a holdout is the same as getting cut in the middle of a contract. Getting cut from a roster hurts the player only while a holdout can hurt an entire team - it does not appear to be an equitable situation. So my question is this...what would be an equitable scenario? What about allowing a player to break his contract and test free agency at any point? I do applaud the NFL for the fines. Holdouts were getting to a ridiculous level and were, IMO, hurting the game. I don't blame the players - they were doing what they needed ot do, but it ultimately hurt the entire team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>The NFL is at it's pinacle. If NFL players feel they're being shafted they have the right to leave. When the quality of play goes down then you may see a change. If the players had control we'd be looking at the NBA right now. I find the $ NBA & MLB players are making far more outrageous especially in comparison to the amount of physical punishment the NFL players take. In the end their union agreed to this deal so they can't cry foul now.</div> I can't agree with your last statement. I'm sure there were some players that objected to the agreement even though their union agreed to it. If I'm a worker and my union is a crappy union then I'm probably going to complain anyway just a little more to the union. Of course, that's one of the downsides of belonging to a union. What do you do if your union isn't representing your best interests? As far as NFL players having the right to leave if they feel they are getting shafted, tell me where they should go. When Antonio Freeman has a contract and the Packers are telling him that he has to take a reduction in pay or get cut, what is he supposed to do? This is part of what pushes my button. When fans bust on players for not honoring their contracts, but don't give a crap about the players, that have busted their butts for them, when a team isn't honoring their side of that same contract.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>So, what is the penalty for teams who don't honor their side of a contract by cutting players who are still under contract? Why is it that football fans applaud when it's made more difficult for athletes to make money in the short time they have to play, but say nothing when owners screw them by dumping them the second their value drops? I'm not a fan of holdouts, but I understand why some players feel they need to make a stand while they have some leverage. I would just like to know why "football fans" bother to watch the game when you hate every dime that the players are making? How can the same people have a favorite football team? You do realize that the team and the owner make more money than any individual player does, right?</div> I was thinking along the same lines, but I don't think that a holdout is the same as getting cut in the middle of a contract. Getting cut from a roster hurts the player only while a holdout can hurt an entire team - it does not appear to be an equitable situation. So my question is this...what would be an equitable scenario? What about allowing a player to break his contract and test free agency at any point? I do applaud the NFL for the fines. Holdouts were getting to a ridiculous level and were, IMO, hurting the game. I don't blame the players - they were doing what they needed ot do, but it ultimately hurt the entire team.</div> I don't think that because a player's getting cut only hurts him that justifies cutting a player with a valid contract. Of course, I don't think that holdouts were getting out of hand. I think it seemed that way because most holdouts are high profile names and the longer it drags out, the more tired we getting of hearing about them. You have to remember that one of last year's big holdouts, Jevon Walker in Green Bay, never actually happened, but it was such a big story it felt like the non-holdout lasted forever. I think there are some fairly well understood, if unwritten, parameters where people know that a contract will need to be renegotiated, but sometimes teams and players don't see things the same and conflict arises. You can't tell me that the Chiefs are planning on honoring all five years on the contract that they signed with 32 year old Ty Law. Does anyone know exactly how many holdouts there were last year? I think racheting up the fines could open a can of worms that teams will regret. You could have players showing up and refusing to participate in certain drills and not really giving the effort they need. They might be coming in with attitudes and souring the team atmosphere that is so important to develope during training camp. Before you judge players for not coming in with a professional attitude, ask yourself if you have ever let a problem at work ever effect your performance.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>He can choose to go to the CFL.</div> Actually, he cant. It is in his contract. They could sue him for breach of contract which would cost him more than CFL could pay him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>I mean when his contract is up obviously.</div> If a player's contract is up, then he is a free agent and isn't contractually obligated to show up. He can't be fined. C'mon, Bakes! We're playing at game speed up in here, bro!
