I don't see why they couldn't give her one. In all, it'd probably be safer than her birthing a child and going through nine months of labor and what not.
This guy is gonna get f-ed up in prison. Prison guards usually know what the guys coming in are there for, and they tell the other inmates if the guy is a child molester. Those guys get the worst in prison and that sick Fu*ck is gonna get what he deserves.
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Slow down there, bro'. I know acting on his urges was wrong, and he should definitely be detained, as he's a danger to society in his present mental state, but according to the DSM-IV, pedophilia is a psychological disorder, and I happen to agree. It's sort of like how people don't usually make the conscious choice to be gay. Rather, it's the way they're born. This man could have been perfectly moral and intelligent but was just very sexually repressed because modern society sees adult-child relationships as predatory, thus preventing any outlets he would have had for a more mild form of assuaging his urges, such as through pornography, rather than letting it culminate into the act that it did. I'm not condoning his actions, but I think we should at least recognize that he was originally caused to act this way because of forces out of his control.</div> I understand it could be mental and an urge he wasn't able to control. However, when his victim is a 9 year old, I don't have any sympathy for his mental state. If he doesn't have the mental capacity to resist those urges, then that urge needs to be surpressed and removing his unit sounds reasonable to me.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I understand it could be mental and an urge he wasn't able to control. However, when his victim is a 9 year old, I don't have any sympathy for his mental state. If he doesn't have the mental capacity to resist those urges, then that urge needs to be surpressed and removing his unit sounds reasonable to me.</div> I sort of have to agree. I mean, several murderers also have these uncontrollable urges. Doesn't make me feel more sympathy, and it doesn't make me think they should be put in a hospital for a couple years to receive treatment, instead of prison or death. They did the crime, now they have to pay. Although, I think our whole justice system is ****** up. It's kind of a difficult situation. And BTW, they CANNOT give her an abortion because when they found out she was pregant, she was already 7-8 months in. Too late. She has already given birth via c-section and the parents have put the baby up for adoption. I good idea, I think.
<div class="quote_poster">Answer_AI03 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">This guy is gonna get f-ed up in prison. Prison guards usually know what the guys coming in are there for, and they tell the other inmates if the guy is a child molester. Those guys get the worst in prison and that sick Fu*ck is gonna get what he deserves.</div> yea these are the guys that get there ass handed to them. He prolly wont even make it out alive
<div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">IShe has already given birth via c-section and the parents have put the baby up for adoption.</div> They should have raised the baby themselves.
<div class="quote_poster">Sasha Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">They should have raised the baby themselves.</div> Why would they keep a baby that's from a rapist? And not to mention, why would the little girl want a baby at this age or anytime soon?
I find the whole situation disgusting and I have a hard time empathizing for the rapist, even if has a mental problem. But I can't wish pain on another person, be it from the death penalty or torture. That's just too much.
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I find the whole situation disgusting and I have a hard time empathizing for the rapist, even if has a mental problem. But I can't wish pain on another person, be it from the death penalty or torture. That's just too much.</div> What's the alternative then? Keep him in jail or some psychiatric ward? I'd rather my tax money be spent on people who want to benefit society. According to this site, in 2003 it costs on average $70.00 a day to keep someone in prison. source I'd rather that $70.00 be given to a college student so they can eat decently and not be forced to buy food off the McDonald's .99 cent menu.
<div class="quote_poster">Mercury Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why would they keep a baby that's from a rapist? And not to mention, why would the little girl want a baby at this age or anytime soon?</div> Because it's another human being. It would be a shame to give it out to adoption, as that is horrible for the child in the long run, and at times doesn't work as the kid gets handed off from family to family. I never mentioned that the girl wanted the baby. I meant the parents should raise it. And, with the little girl obviously knowing that she gave birth to it, there wouldn't have to be any unnecessary complications like..."this is your new sister" or the such. She would know the deal from the get go.
<div class="quote_poster">Sasha Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Because it's another human being. It would be a shame to give it out to adoption, as that is horrible for the child in the long run, and at times doesn't work as the kid gets handed off from family to family. I never mentioned that the girl wanted the baby. I meant the parents should raise it. And, with the little girl obviously knowing that she gave birth to it, there wouldn't have to be any unnecessary complications like..."this is your new sister" or the such. She would know the deal from the get go.</div> Adoptions don't always turnout bad. It's a helluva a lot to ask this family to raise a child born out of rape of their 9 year old daughter. The child is going to be a constant reminder of the rape incident.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What's the alternative then? Keep him in jail or some psychiatric ward? I'd rather my tax money be spent on people who want to benefit society. According to this site, in 2003 it costs on average $70.00 a day to keep someone in prison. source I'd rather that $70.00 be given to a college student so they can eat decently and not be forced to buy food off the McDonald's .99 cent menu.</div> Yea, I'd go with that alternative. I don't agree with giving up on members of society, no matter how low they've sunk. You could apply the same logic to the mentally handicapped, the terminally ill, or the homeless. Neither are productive and are essentially burdens on the state. But we take care of them and spend money on them, regardless. The only difference is that they evoke pity, while this person's crimes makes us angry and vengeful. That's no reason to wish death (or torture as some people have said) on him. He should be provided with psychological care and/or the punishment of jail. Besides, the death penalty is littered with bias and error. And the whole court process takes such a long time, that I'm sure it costs a hell of a lot of money as well.
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yea, I'd go with that alternative. I don't agree with giving up on members of society, no matter how low they've sunk. You could apply the same logic to the mentally handicapped, the terminally ill, or the homeless. Neither are productive and are essentially burdens on the state. But we take care of them and spend money on them, regardless. The only difference is that they evoke pity, while this person's crimes makes us angry and vengeful. That's no reason to wish death (or torture as some people have said) on him. He should be provided with psychological care and/or the punishment of jail. Besides, the death penalty is littered with bias and error. And the whole court process takes such a long time, that I'm sure it costs a hell of a lot of money as well.</div> I would not classify a rapist in the same category of the mentally handicapped, terminally ill, or homeless. They might all be considered a burden to the state, but a rapist is harming other members of our society and are criminals. The court process is something that can be rectified to reduce any financial burden to the taxpayers. Why should he provided by psychological care ahead of someone who's actually more deserving of it? This is the argument I can never understand for people who are against the death penalty and want to provide care. Every dollar spent on a raping child molester is one less dollar we can spend on people who are making a positive impact on society.
Shape, what would your punishments be for such actions: theft, assault, rape, vandalism, cheating on a spouse, drug dealing, sexual abuse, blackmail, child abuse, and murder. I think there are about 2.2 million Americans in jail.
That as nasty and sick as hell. That guy deserves the cruelest punishment in my opinion. He needs to learn not to do this type of 'ish again. I dont think they should kill him for this, or maybe, but they should beat his azz up.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I would not classify a rapist in the same category of the mentally handicapped, terminally ill, or homeless. They might all be considered a burden to the state, but a rapist is harming other members of our society and are criminals. The court process is something that can be rectified to reduce any financial burden to the taxpayers. Why should he provided by psychological care ahead of someone who's actually more deserving of it? This is the argument I can never understand for people who are against the death penalty and want to provide care. Every dollar spent on a raping child molester is one less dollar we can spend on people who are making a positive impact on society.</div> A pedophile is mentally handicapped. Most pedophiles know what they're doing is wrong, and they have the mental capacity to avoid situations where they'd be tempted to act on those urges, but the urges are uncontrollable, meaning they will act on them in a provocative situation no matter how mentally strong they are. That's simply a fact, according to most of the leading psychiatrists. Although I'm not an advocate of the death penalty, even if I were, I doubt that I'd support it in this particular case. This is a man that simply needs to be detained from society. In prison, he's not a harm to any minors. If he's given a life sentence, or twenty-five years with therapy, he can still have somewhat of a quality life that a dignified human being like himself deserves. Just because people can't relate to pedophilia, they're quick to judge those who suffer from it. Most people have done drugs, partied, or made irresponsible decisions in the heat of the moment. Therefore, when a guy like my good friend of more than twenty years, Dan Cumming, recently got coked up and killed the arresting officer, most of the community forgave him and pleaded for a reduced sentence. That's a far more violent and reprehensible crime as far as I'm concerned. In this situation, the little girl's life is never going to be the same, but she still has it. That officer will never have his life back, nor will his children have their father back or his wife have her husband back. The only difference between the two crimes is that the majority of the public doesn't understand the urges that pedophiles experience, but they understand drugs, violence, etc. If you're that concerned about tax dollars going towards prisoners, then start petitioning to end the war on drugs. There are far more drug dealers in prison than violent offenders. Most drugs only harm the person using the drug, whereas violent criminals harm those around them. The problem with overcrowded prisons stems from the fact that you can be sentenced for smoking marijuana, an organic plant that is less physically and mentally harmful to you.
<div class="quote_poster">Skiptomylue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Shape, what would your punishments be for such actions: theft, assault, rape, vandalism, cheating on a spouse, drug dealing, sexual abuse, blackmail, child abuse, and murder. I think there are about 2.2 million Americans in jail.</div> It really depends on the level of each crime. Raping a 9 year old tops the list of people who need to be severely punished, death penalty or torture.
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's wrong though. A pedophile is mentally handicapped. Most pedophiles know what they're doing is wrong, and they have the mental capacity to avoid situations where they'd be tempted to act on those urges, but the urges are uncontrollable, meaning they will act on them in a provocative situation no matter how mentally strong they are. That's simply a fact, according to most of the leading psychiatrists. Although I'm not an advocate of the death penalty, even if I were, I doubt that I'd support it in this particular case. This is a man that simply needs to be detained from society. In prison, he's not a harm to any minors. If he's given a life sentence, or twenty-five years with therapy, he can still have somewhat of a quality life that a dignified human being like himself deserves. Just because people can't relate to pedophilia, they're quick to judge those who suffer from it. Most people have done drugs, partied, or made irresponsible decisions in the heat of the moment. Therefore, when a guy like my good friend of more than twenty years, Dan Cumming, recently got coked up and killed the arresting officer, most of the community forgave him and pleaded for a reduced sentence. That's a far more violent and reprehensible crime as far as I'm concerned. In this situation, the little girl's life is never going to be the same, but she still has it. That officer will never have his life back, nor will his children have their father back or his wife have her husband back. The only difference between the two crimes is that the majority of the public doesn't understand the urges that pedophiles experience, but they understand drugs, violence, etc. If you're that concerned about tax dollars going towards prisoners, then start petitioning to end the war on drugs. There are far more drug dealers in prison than violent offenders. Most drugs only harm the person using the drug, whereas violent criminals harm those around them. The problem is that you can be sentenced to prison for smoking marijuana, an organic plant that is less physically and mentally harmful to you.</div> I'm very much opposed to the war on drugs, it's all a political farce for pharmaceutical conglomerates to push their own drugs on people and profit 1000% times over. In my opinion, mary jane isn't any different than drinking a glass of whiskey. I just don't view raping a 9 year old girl as an irresponsible decision. In your friend's case, he didn't get coked up with the idea was going to go out and murder an officer. It's horrible what happened, but it wasn't something premiditated. The pedophile went out and made the decision to rape this 9 year old. It wasn't by accident, it was a preconceived act on his part. He deserves to be held accountable for his actions and punished to the full extent.
I know a lot of poeple on this site are opposed to the war on drugs as well. Would you guys like only marijuana to be legalized or other things as well?
