<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He's winning? It's not just him that's winning. The First Round isn't over yet. </div> Yes, as the leader of that team, he deserves the most recognition. Similar to how you, or anyone else, would say that DIRK stepped up if the Mavs were winning or KOBE stepped up if the Lakers were winning.
This guy has been the most overrated player ever since he was drafted. Anyone who watches the Mavs everyday knows this guy is a cup cake. If not for Avery's motivation, the guy would've wet his pants every night thinking about last year's finals.
<div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yes, as the leader of that team, he deserves the most recognition. Similar to how you, or anyone else, would say that DIRK stepped up if the Mavs were winning or KOBE stepped up if the Lakers were winning.</div> No it isn't the same because Kobe and Dirk have less talent around them than Nash. Again more generalizations. <div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">This guy has been the most overrated player ever since he was drafted. Anyone who watches the Mavs everyday knows this guy is a cup cake. If not for Avery's motivation, the guy would've wet his pants every night thinking about last year's finals.</div> Why? In fact, Dirk was top 20 in creating his own shot this year. He's not that stiff, the Warriors have his number. GS had won five of the last six BEFORE entering the series.
Dirk's game is not one requiring him to bang. So that does not make him soft. The guy begs for the ball in the 4th quarter and takes the shots that KG would pass on. Face it, the reason the Mavs are losing this series is not because Dirk is not MVP caliber, he's one of the last reasons they're losing this series. The FIRST one is that Golden State's style is the same style as Mavs, and the second one is that Avery Johnson failed to come up with creative alternatives to counter what was clearly going GS's way.
^^^lmao @ dallasdude.....I like fans like you (I'm like you as a fan), because you can root for your team but call people out when they need to be called out. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dirk's game is not one requiring him to bang. So that does not make him soft. The guy begs for the ball in the 4th quarter and takes the shots that KG would pass on. Face it, the reason the Mavs are losing this series is not because Dirk is not MVP caliber, he's one of the last reasons they're losing this series. The FIRST one is that Golden State's style is the same style as Mavs, and the second one is that Avery Johnson failed to come up with creative alternatives to counter what was clearly going GS's way.</div> I'm going to be honest and say...it is dirks fault...I thought Howard,Terry,Stackhouse, and Diop all played very good last night, BUT Dirk was Dirk, and we know how that goes....
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^^^lmao @ dallasdude.....I like fans like you (I'm like you as a fan), because you can root for your team but call people out when they need to be called out.</div> You just like him because he agrees with you, who are you kidding?
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^^^lmao @ dallasdude.....I like fans like you (I'm like you as a fan), because you can root for your team but call people out when they need to be called out. I'm going to be honest and say...it is dirks fault...I thought Howard,Terry,Stackhouse, and Diop all played very good last night, BUT Dirk was Dirk, and we know how that goes....</div> Ya Damn right bro. Put any other legit superstar in Dirk's spot and this team would've won a championship by now.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You just like him because he agrees with you, who are you kidding?</div> ^^^yeah and that to... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Ya Damn right bro. Put any other legit superstar in Dirk's spot and this team would've won a championship by now. </div> word..J. Howard and Terry are beast, and to be honest it was those 2 (not Dirk) that beat the rockets a couple of years ago in the first round...
<div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ya Damn right bro. Put any other legit superstar in Dirk's spot and this team would've won a championship by now.</div> Depends on what you mean by "legit superstar". Dirk is easily a top five player when he's not choking in the first round.
i think that dirk doesnt like the knots and frogs that you get when playin 10 feet and in. he is soft. iverson spends more time in the paint than dirk. and thats sad.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dirk is easily a top five player when he's not choking in the first round.</div> I'm really starting to question this.....I mean he's a great offensive talent, BUT he's not someone that I'd want to build my team around...he's a nice piece to the puzzle, but...I think you get my point.
<div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">i think that dirk doesnt like the knots and frogs that you get when playin 10 feet and in. he is soft. iverson spends more time in the paint than dirk. and thats sad.</div> Dirk does create his own shot and drives to the hoop. He just plays to his strengths, he's got an amazing TS%. <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm really starting to question this.....I mean he's a great offensive talent, BUT he's not someone that I'd want to build my team around...he's a nice piece to the puzzle, but...I think you get my point.</div> Well again, right now his choking is overshadowing everything he has recently accomplished.
<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Depends on what you mean by "legit superstar". Dirk is easily a top five player when he's not choking in the first round.</div> The guy grew up idolizing Scottie Pippen. He's a good role player. That's about it. He's not gonna carry a team.
<div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The guy grew up idolizing Scottie Pippen. He's a good role player. That's about it. He's not gonna carry a team.</div> Role player? That's funny, he carried your team pretty far last year. Caron Butler is a role player.
Has there even been a well-thought out argument against Dirk in this entire thread? All I've seen is generalizations and lazy accusations that don't have any substance to them: he's soft because he's not a post player, he's not clutch (oops, it looks like he is), "Dirk is Dirk," etc. Aside from his first round struggles (a lot of this is due to an excellent defensive gameplan by Don Nelson... something the Dirk-bashers tend to ignore), he's a legit superstar.
<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Dirk does create his own shot and drives to the hoop. He just plays to his strengths, he's got an amazing TS%. Well again, right now his choking is overshadowing everything he has recently accomplished.</div> Okay but like I said Iverson spends more time in the paint and thats sad. Ivo 6' dirk 7'
<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Role player? That's funny, he carried your team pretty far last year. Caron Butler is a role player.</div> OK..He's a good second option on a championship team ala Scottie Pippen.
<div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Okay but like I said Iverson spends more time in the paint and thats sad. Ivo 6' dirk 7'</div> Iverson has a disgusting/average TS% unlike Dirk. <div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">OK..He's a good second option on a championship team ala Scottie Pippen.</div> So when he plays well he's a good second option? Not at all. When anyone chokes they look like role player. When Dirk is having an average game (27.7 PER) he's a superstar.
this isn't the first time that Dirkee has choked...if I'm dallas I'd seriously look to move him (you could get A LOT for him)...Howard,Terry, and Harris are great pieces....
<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Iverson has a disgusting/average TS% unlike Dirk. So when he plays well he's a good second option? Not at all. When anyone chokes they look like role player. When Dirk is having an average game (27.7 PER) he's a superstar.</div> He's not gonna have that PER when it matters most in the playoffs. He's a good second option in the playoffs..that's about it.
