Who Do You Want to Kick Out of LA?

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  1. Shapecity

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    Check out this poll conducted by the LA Times.

    Online poll

    There were 8,197 votes cast in most recent poll: Which one of these Lakers would you get rid of?

    Smush Parker 38.9%
    Mitch Kupchak 32.9%
    Vladimir Radmanovic 12.6%
    Kwame Brown 11.5%
    Sasha Vujacic 4.1%

    Source: LA Times
     
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    Wow more people would rather see Kwame and Vlade out than Sasha?
     
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    I like Kwame.... I just know not to expect huge results from him. When he is given a role that he can fill he does it well. His role should be to defend power forwards/centers, hang around the rim to get rebounds and expect drop offs passes for dunks. He should not be expected to post up and make things happen on regular bases, although he showed he can do that when he gets confident (see note above about dunks).

    Vlad was a complete bust
    Smush was never good
    Sasha, he plays hard, he is just not good enough. Players like him need to choose a role for themselves and get very good at it, like Raja, Bowen, and Steve Kerr.

    I would say get rid of everyone except Kobe, Luke, and Farmar. I would like to keep Odom, Bynum, and Ronny, but they are good trade bait.
     
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    is that McKey contract up yet?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">is that McKey contract up yet?</div>

    Yes his contract has ended, he'll likely retire and try to get an assistant coaching job somewhere.

    Here's a list of Laker free agents:

    Unrestricted: Aaron McKie, Chris Mihm, Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Shammond Williams
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yes his contract has ended, he'll likely retire and try to get an assistant coaching job somewhere.

    Here's a list of Laker free agents:

    Unrestricted: Aaron McKie, Chris Mihm, Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Shammond Williams</div>

    Okay evrybody on that list should be gone. Dont resign Luke unless you posativly have to.
    The only guy who will still be in the league after this year is Luke.

    Okay the lakers have a little money to play with then. Maybe you guys shouldnt have made the playoffs. If Farmar works on his game this Year you guys maynot have to worry about that spot. You guys just dont have any Ballers exept Turiaf and Kobe.

    What I mean by ballers are guys who would play basketball if the money wasnt involved.

    Players like
    Ty Thomas
    David lee
    wade
    jason kidd
    devin harris
    JO
    KG

    Guys who leave it all on the floor.I put thomas and lee in there not because of what they do but how they play. They give their all. There are few ballers left in the League.

    Thats why GS won they are a team that leaves it on the floor. they arent a better team they just play like there is no tomorrow.
     
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    Your insight on the situation is spot on.

    The Lakers need more Alpha Dogs on this team to match and cope with Kobe's intensity. Kobe leads a certain way, and it's the job of the GM to get players around Kobe, who can be led by Kobe's direction. Kobe is driven to win and work hard all year round. The Lakers are a group of young guys who love the NBA lifestyle, but aren't exactly putting in the work to reach the ultimate goal.

    They just haven't matured to that point yet in their careers, and their priorities aren't the same as Kobe and PJax.

    The majority of these guys cannot handle pressure and criticism. I'm sure Kobe gets in their face all the time, and it takes a certain personality to recognize Kobe's using that anger to motivate you to be better and improve, rather than taking it to the heart and getting bent out of shape about it.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Your insight on the situation is spot on.

    The Lakers need more Alpha Dogs on this team to match and cope with Kobe's intensity. Kobe leads a certain way, and it's the job of the GM to get players around Kobe, who can be led by Kobe's direction. Kobe is driven to win and work hard all year round. The Lakers are a group of young guys who love the NBA lifestyle, but aren't exactly putting in the work to reach the ultimate goal.

    They just haven't matured to that point yet in their careers, and their priorities aren't the same as Kobe and PJax.

    The majority of these guys cannot handle pressure and criticism. I'm sure Kobe gets in their face all the time, and it takes a certain personality to recognize Kobe's using that anger to motivate you to be better and improve, rather than taking it to the heart and getting bent out of shape about it.</div>


    Where do you think the lakers would be if they traded.....

    Luke walton and Lamar odem for stephen jackson and al harrington?

    And do you think the Pacers wouldve bit on that trade?
     
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    oh men i will pray every day that the lakers somehow aguire KG, just imagen, what a sweet duo!! Two players who want to win more than everyone, two hard working players, just crazy to think about!!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Where do you think the lakers would be if they traded.....

    Luke walton and Lamar odem for stephen jackson and al harrington?

    And do you think the Pacers wouldve bit on that trade?</div>

    It's hard to judge, right now SJax and Harrington are thriving in Nellie's system. Would they thrive in the Triangle? We would never know unless we saw them trying to play in it. I don't think Harrington has the skillset to be very good in the Triangle, I'd have more faith in SJax producing in it. SJax was solid for Indiana under Carlisle's halfcourt sets, Harrington never caught on.
     
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    Haha they copied the Joe Macdonnel Experiance on AM 570 for people that dont know he comes after Lakers Lines on weekdays and one of his segments is who do you want to kick out of LA.
     
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    what about blake and billups over the summer I think thats a start. They are both free agents.
    A lakers fan might want to post all of the free agents available this summer to make the thread more interestin or start a new thread to see what you options are.
     
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    I think the Lakers should definetly have voided Vlad's contract when they had the chanse. Talk about a stupid move signing him for 30 millions for 5 years or whatever his contract is.

    I agree with what has been said, the Lakers should go after players who's will to win is bigger than their will to get money. I think our largest need is a big guy who can score and defend concistently. Our second largest need is to get a defensive PG with some offensive skills.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">what about blake and billups over the summer I think thats a start. They are both free agents.
    A lakers fan might want to post all of the free agents available this summer to make the thread more interestin or start a new thread to see what you options are.</div>

    The complete list is available here <u>2007 Free Agents</u>

    Chauncey Billups would be a huge upgrade at PG, but he's an unrealistic target. We could try to work a sign and trade with Detroit, but I don't think we have much to offer them in return.

    You have to figure out what Billups is worth at this point and how long you want to sign him for. This is his last chance for a big pay day, it could cost at least $10M to $12M just to pry him away from Detroit.
     
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    These are who the lakers should be looking at IMO

    Antonio McDyess- This has got to be a guy that the lakers must sign. Hes a vet and has proven how reliable he is on both ends. He's what we call a baller and has a toughness to match bryant I think he would make a great starting PF.

    James Posey- With the lakers having absolutly no defensive charcters on the team (barring kobe) they could use James posey. The problem here is; Is he going to be worth too much this summer. if he can be signed at a resonable price look to see him in a lakers uni.

    Mikki Moore - This guy IMO is suspect. meaning this; its kind of fishy that hes having a great second half to the season seeing how no one knew who this guy was until the last game of the season against chicago. This guy could be a great bench guy and he has great energy but once again we all have heard of a guy called Jerome James.


    Desmond Mason desmond mason is a great highlight guy but his hardiness is questionable.and playing along side Paul makes him look a bit better than he is in reality. I really havent seen any improvement in Masons game over the years and thats what bothers me. hes a great slasher/finisher but what happens when the d takes away his strong hand?

    Pargo The lakers must sign this guy. He would still be a bull if we didnt already have so many small guards. I think his closest comparison is Juan dixon. This guy has is as confident as kobe when it comes to scoring. hes a guy who can give Kobe alot of rest coming off the bench without losing offence. He has a great shot from 15 feet out to the 3 point line. Hes a 6'2' guard but dont let his size fool you hes a handfull for any defender.

    Grant Hill,- This could be the wild horse for any team who will sign him. he has the ability to come off of the bench and play any position betwee 1-3. the question is does he want to return.

    Kurt Thomas - this is another Vet that can be considered for the center/pf position. He has the abilty to stretch the defence and can abuse a big who is unsure about playing perimeter defence.
    Mike Bibby There has been too many threads concerning this guy so ill leave it at that.

    Rashard Lewis- Could this be the guy that Kobe needs? hes a great competitor and just may be the ying to kobes yang. Lewis is a good SF who would relly make the defence pay for doubling kobe. Forget about lamar odem and Luke walto missing wide open layups because this guy is a finisher. This is another guy that could make a differece fo the Lakers if signed.
     
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    We should look to sign a starting calibure point guard with our MLE. Hopefully someone like Charlie Bell or Steve Blake. We've been through Chucky Atkins and Smush Parker, it's time we got a real point guard in purple and gold
     
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    I like Steve Blake as a PG since I think he defends better than Charlie Bell and can also hit his open shots.. But, I think Charlie Bell is a more effective scorer..
     
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    I think that every one except for luke walton,odom and kobe should go. To be honest they need to get hustle players and an inside scorer
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">These are who the lakers should be looking at IMO

    Antonio McDyess- This has got to be a guy that the lakers must sign. Hes a vet and has proven how reliable he is on both ends. He's what we call a baller and has a toughness to match bryant I think he would make a great starting PF.

    James Posey- With the lakers having absolutly no defensive charcters on the team (barring kobe) they could use James posey. The problem here is; Is he going to be worth too much this summer. if he can be signed at a resonable price look to see him in a lakers uni.

    Mikki Moore - This guy IMO is suspect. meaning this; its kind of fishy that hes having a great second half to the season seeing how no one knew who this guy was until the last game of the season against chicago. This guy could be a great bench guy and he has great energy but once again we all have heard of a guy called Jerome James.


    Desmond Mason desmond mason is a great highlight guy but his hardiness is questionable.and playing along side Paul makes him look a bit better than he is in reality. I really havent seen any improvement in Masons game over the years and thats what bothers me. hes a great slasher/finisher but what happens when the d takes away his strong hand?

    Pargo The lakers must sign this guy. He would still be a bull if we didnt already have so many small guards. I think his closest comparison is Juan dixon. This guy has is as confident as kobe when it comes to scoring. hes a guy who can give Kobe alot of rest coming off the bench without losing offence. He has a great shot from 15 feet out to the 3 point line. Hes a 6'2' guard but dont let his size fool you hes a handfull for any defender.

    Grant Hill,- This could be the wild horse for any team who will sign him. he has the ability to come off of the bench and play any position betwee 1-3. the question is does he want to return.

    Kurt Thomas - this is another Vet that can be considered for the center/pf position. He has the abilty to stretch the defence and can abuse a big who is unsure about playing perimeter defence.
    Mike Bibby There has been too many threads concerning this guy so ill leave it at that.

    Rashard Lewis- Could this be the guy that Kobe needs? hes a great competitor and just may be the ying to kobes yang. Lewis is a good SF who would relly make the defence pay for doubling kobe. Forget about lamar odem and Luke walto missing wide open layups because this guy is a finisher. This is another guy that could make a differece fo the Lakers if signed.</div>

    Nice List.[​IMG]

    Even if we cant land KG or JO kind of player.. We should get one of the players listed above.
     
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    I think Kwame should be the first player of the lakers. He has some small hands and can catch the ball sometimes. Vladimir Radmanovic he is just a liar and should be traded.
     

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